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Old 08-02-2013, 06:39 PM   #476
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If they can't use the word 'Adamantium'. They could probably get around it by claiming Ultron built himself w/some unknown metal that's stronger than they ever seen.
They don't need it. Vibranium exists in the MCU. That's why there's speculation of more of it's involvement because they were scouting Cape Town as a potential shooting location .... i.e. Wakanda.

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If they can't use the word 'Adamantium'. They could probably get around it by claiming Ultron built himself w/some unknown metal that's stronger than they ever seen.
Call it Metallica.

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What would happen in the comics if SW used her hex magic on or around(to get inside Ultron´s body) vibranium, would it just absorb it?

Will Ultron run on the same stuff as IM? The same energy I mean.

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What would happen in the comics if SW used her hex magic on or around(to get inside Ultron´s body) vibranium, would it just absorb it?

Will Ultron run on the same stuff as IM? The same energy I mean.
That actually happens in Ultron Unlimited. Scarlet Witch's powers are a weakness for Ultron. Which leads me to believe that I know how this bad boy ends. QS and SW are criminals that Ultron releases from prison to plague the Avengers. They then wise up and join and they provide the fatal blows.

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They don't need it. Vibranium exists in the MCU. That's why there's speculation of more of it's involvement because they were scouting Cape Town as a potential shooting location .... i.e. Wakanda.



Not for people like myself who come here hoping that new posts contain some legit news or "logical" speculation.

Didn't stark say that all there was in the world was in that shield though?

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You don't think it would make sense to bring in a character who is going to be fully fleshed out in his own movie just a few months after AoU?
Edgar Wright's Ant-Man movie is not going to have anything to do with Ultron and it will probably have little to do with the MCU. It's a stand alone story crafted by Edgar Wright before the MCU took off. There will most likely be little MCU references thrown in just to connect it to the MCU, which wasn't the case in the original script. Pretty much the "The Wolverine" of the MCU. Wright's Ant-Man and Whedon's Avengers 2 were NEVER going to have anything to do with each other. If you wanna blame anyone for this blame Edgar Wright.

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Didn't stark say that all there was in the world was in that shield though?
Ya, in the 1940's .... you don't think it's possible that the scenario could change with all the excavation that could've possibly taking place up until now?

If they're going to involve Wakanda into this (unconfirmed), I can't see any other reason. There is nothing on Earth that Ultron could be made out of, which would be able to hold up against the Hulk or Thor. Unless of course the Destroyer armor plays a role.

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Was The US military working with Wakanda during WWII, it doesn't appear so. If not, then Stark not having access to more vibranium or knowing about it makes sense.

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Edgar Wright's Ant-Man movie is not going to have anything to do with Ultron and it will probably have little to do with the MCU. It's a stand alone story crafted by Edgar Wright before the MCU took off. There will most likely be little MCU references thrown in just to connect it to the MCU, which wasn't the case in the original script. Pretty much the "The Wolverine" of the MCU. Wright's Ant-Man and Whedon's Avengers 2 were NEVER going to have anything to do with each other. If you wanna blame anyone for this blame Edgar Wright.
You really believe Kevin Feige is going to allow a *standalone* movie in the MCU....? Good luck with that.

Plus, I'll remind you of Wright's exact quote when asked whether Ultron was in his original story of Ant-Man: “I cannot really get into that, but umm… I’ll say no. No he wasn’t.”

Why would he respond with that kind of equivocation? Could it be that he had to choose his words carefully in order to give an honest response without ticking off the Marvel Snipers? "No, he wasn't...." But does that adequately answer whether or not Ultron is in the script now?

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Did he say 'all in the world' or 'that's all we have', implying the US Army/Starks R&D department?

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Did he say 'all in the world' or 'that's all we have', implying the US Army/Starks R&D department?
"It's the rarest metal on Earth. What you're holding there is all we got." - Howard Stark


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Guardians of the Galaxy is a standalone movie. :/

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It has Thanos in it, so it isn't standalone in that regard.

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"It's the rarest metal on Earth. What you're holding there is all we got." - Howard Stark
And there you have it.

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And there you have it.
Which could certainly bring in Wakanda, Really lookin forward to phase 3. Dr Strange, possibly a black panther movie

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Ummm guys, Edgar Wright confirmed that Ultron was never a part of his Antman movie.

http://sciencefiction.com/2013/08/01...ights-ant-man/

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But does that adequately answer whether or not Ultron is in the script now?
Why would Ultron be in the script now? lol I thought it was already established by Whedon that Ultron comes from the established Avengers. Edgar Wright's Ant-Man was thought up without the MCU and Ultron in mind. Of course, things changed now that The Avengers has been such a big success, but I doubt a whole lot changed.

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A Carol Danvers Captain Marvel movie would be fantastic (pretty please Feige, pretty please). I also want a Black Widow spy thriller (pretty please again).

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if they can't use the word 'adamantium'. They could probably get around it by claiming ultron built himself w/some unknown metal that's stronger than they ever seen.
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That lovely dwarfish metal
heh can you imagine if Ultron had a few of himself and one throws the other made of Uru and the target ducks and URU-Utlron returns to the other Ultron destroying them both. lol

LOVE that one subtle difference in the two metals, URU returns to the owner.
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That actually happens in Ultron Unlimited. Scarlet Witch's powers are a weakness for Ultron. Which leads me to believe that I know how this bad boy ends. QS and SW are criminals that Ultron releases from prison to plague the Avengers. They then wise up and join and they provide the fatal blows.
There was never any vibranium in Ultron unlimited. There were 3 types of robots. 2 of them were made off true adamantium, some second adamantium and a lot of em titanium, I think.

Adamantium and Vibranium aren´t the same. Vibranium isn´t that hard it just absorbes, hence the question if hex magic count as something it does absorb. Adamantium on the other hand is an extremely hard metal that doesn´t store energy. It ´s weaker against heat tho.

In West coast Avengers Hawkeye uses his vibranium arrow to absorb the energy of Ultron´s trap.

I think that maybe SW uses that hex thing to beat Ultron, just not the final version. He gathers vibranium to absorb this energy, making him indestructable to her-> TA in then end. In the end tho, all Avengers combined manage to overload the vibranium thus making it expload. Thor uses lightning, Hulk bashes the body out of control, Iron man uses his lasers, Scarlet using her stuff, basically all standing around him doing their thing. (i don´t know if Hulk should smash, I am not sure how effective kinetic energy is, but it should help since he is so strong.)

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Ya, in the 1940's .... you don't think it's possible that the scenario could change with all the excavation that could've possibly taking place up until now?

If they're going to involve Wakanda into this (unconfirmed), I can't see any other reason. There is nothing on Earth that Ultron could be made out of, which would be able to hold up against the Hulk or Thor. Unless of course the Destroyer armor plays a role.
The Destroyer is never going to happen so might as well stop bringing that up.


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Why would Ultron be in the script now? lol I thought it was already established by Whedon that Ultron comes from the established Avengers. Edgar Wright's Ant-Man was thought up without the MCU and Ultron in mind. Of course, things changed now that The Avengers has been such a big success, but I doubt a whole lot changed.
Yeah, just a couple of weeks ago actually, Wright said his Ant Man script hasn't changed much at all in tweaking it to fit the MCU.

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Didn't stark say that all there was in the world was in that shield though?
Vibranium is not of this world, so it could probably be obtained

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