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Old 03-28-2016, 05:09 PM   #1
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Default The BvS-fact thread

There's a lot of "tabloidism" out there, so I'll try to sum up the facts and update first post as more come in. A lot of it is bound to change.

Let's try to analyse the data. Try not to hijack the thread with "fanboyism", let's keep it civil.



Rottentomatoes (as of 29/03)
Audience Score: 72%
Audience rating: 3.8/5
Critics score: 28%
Critics rating: 5/10
Top critics score: 26%
Top critics rating: 4.9/10


IMDB (as of 28/03 - 152 000 votes)
Average Rating: 7.4/10
Aged under 18: 7.8/10
Aged 18-29: 7.4/10
Aged 30-44: 7.1/10
Aged 45+: 6.9/10
Top 1000 voters: 5.6/10
Highest percentage score: 10 (31.2%)
Percentage giving 6 or higher: 85,3%

Cinemascore:
B

Metacritic (as of 28/03)
Metascore: 44
Critics: 10 positive, 31 mixed, 10 negative
User Score: 7.4(2211 ratings. 1 609 positive, 262 mixed, 341 negative)


Batman and Superman-movies rated at Rottentomatoes (critics)

  1. The Dark Knight (2008) – 94%
  2. Superman (1978) – 93%
  3. Superman II (1981) – 89%
  4. The Dark Knight Rises (2012) – 87%
  5. Batman Begins (2005) – 85%
  6. Batman: Mask Of The Phantasm (1993) – 81%
  7. Batman Returns (1992) – 80%
  8. Batman The Movie (1966) – 80%
  9. Superman Returns (2006) – 76%
  10. Batman (1989) – 72%
  11. Man Of Steel (2013) – 56%
  12. Batman Forever (1995) – 41%
  13. Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice – 28%
  14. Superman III (1983) – 26%
  15. Superman IV: The Quest For Peace (1987) – 12%
  16. Batman & Robin (1997) – 11%

Batman and Superman-movies rated at Rottentomatoes (audience)
  1. The Dark Knight (2008) – 94%
  2. Batman Begins (2005) – 94%
  3. The Dark Knight Rises (2012) – 90%
  4. Superman (1978) – 86%
  5. Batman (1989) – 84%
  6. Batman Returns (1992) – 80%
  7. Man Of Steel (2013) – 76%
  8. Superman II (1981) – 75%
  9. Superman Returns (2006) – 73%
  10. Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice – 72%
  11. Batman The Movie (1966) – 62%
  12. Batman Forever (1995) – 33%
  13. Superman III (1983) – 23%
  14. Superman IV: The Quest For Peace (1987) – 16%
  15. Batman & Robin (1997) – 16%


Batman and Superman-movies rated at IMDB
  1. The Dark Knight (2008) - 9,0
  2. The Dark Knight Rises (2012) - 8,5
  3. Batman Begins (2005) - 8,3
  4. Batman (1989) - 7,6
  5. Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice - 7,4
  6. Superman (1978) - 7,3
  7. Man Of Steel (2013) - 7,2
  8. Batman Returns (1992) - 7,0
  9. Superman II (1980) - 6,8
  10. Batman The Movie (1966) - 6,5
  11. Superman Returns (2006) - 6,1
  12. Batman Forever (1995) - 5,4
  13. Superman III (1983) - 4,9
  14. Batman & Robin (1997) - 3,7
  15. Superman IV (1987) - 3,7

Batman and Superman-movies rated at Metacritic
  1. Superman II (1980) - 87
  2. Superman (1978) - 86
  3. The Dark Knight (2008) - 82
  4. The Dark Knight Rises (2012) - 78
  5. Superman Returns (2006) - 72
  6. Batman Begins (2015) - 70
  7. Batman Returns (1992) - 68
  8. Batman (1989) - 66
  9. Man Of Steel (2013) - 55
  10. Batman Forever (1995) - 51
  11. Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice - 44
  12. Superman III (1983) - 42
  13. Batman & Robin (1997) - 28
  14. Superman IV (1987) - 22

Batman and Superman-movies rated at Cinemascore

  1. Batman Begins - A
  2. The Dark Knight - A
  3. The Dark Knight Rises - A
  4. Man Of Steel - A-
  5. Batman Forever - A-
  6. Superman Returns - B+
  7. Batman V Superman: Dawn Of Justice - B
  8. Batman Returns - B
  9. Batman And Robin - C+
It's pretty early on, so things will probably change. Especially IMDB, movies traditonally get a lower average as time goes by. But so far:


  • A high percentage of the audience-data suggests they found it ok or better.
  • It is the highest rated Superman-movie at IMDB
  • It is well below the highets rated superheromovies at IMDB, but far above the worst movies
  • There is a clear mis-match between critics verdict and the audience (so far)
  • There is no Metacritic-data to support that most critics panned the movie. Most critics found it mediocre.
  • The younger audience rates it higher.


This is not fact, but speculation: The numbers can support that the people who have seen more movies tend to like it less. But it could also suggest that the movie is a case of "challenging the establishment" ("thinking/presenting outside the box"). Younger audience tend to more easily adapt to "new ways of thinking", since they don't have 30 years of habits. Both theories could be interesting for media students to look into.

I have a hard time understanding how journalists can sum it up as if the critics "hate the movie" or that it was "universally panned". There is no data to support this claim.

So far it seems as if the critics-average found it mediocre and the audience, so far, gives it a 5-8 rating (mediocre to good), with a solid group giving it 10. But as mentioned, the data here is bound to change when more people has seen it and submitted data.

Any audience/critic-facts I should add? Fire away!

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Old 03-29-2016, 04:01 AM   #2
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Changes:

IMDB
Dropped from 7,5 to 7,4 at IMDB.
Highest percentage score (10) dropped to 30,5%
Percentage giving 6 or higher: Dropped from 85,4% to 85,3&

Rottentomatoes
Critics-score dropped from 29% to 28%
Audience score dropped from 73% to 72%

Metecritic
User score went up from 7,3 to 7,4

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