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Old 07-31-2013, 04:42 PM   #151
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Yeah, this begins and ends with The Annoying Hipster-Man.

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Yeah, this begins and ends with The Annoying Hipster-Man.
Here we go with the Rami fanboy who has never read a spider-man comic and finds TASM dark and gritty dispite the team saying they weren't aiming for that.

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Yeah, it's like people see one film and know how the actress can act. She was good in Inception, Rust and Bone, La Mome and A Very Long Engagement.
Agreed. And Love Me if You Dare. And Nine. And Contagion. And Pretty Things. And even the Talia "reveal" scene in TDKR. She played that just right. She's a great actress. One of THE greats, imo.

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I know this probably goes without saying, but please keep in mind that everything I am about to state is purely my opinion and my opinion alone. I am not trying to pass them as facts or anything like that. I want to establish this in the first place because there is always one person that replies to a post like this with something among the lines of "Well, that's your opinion, not fact."

Batman (1989) - It is by no means a horrible film but it is nowhere as good as people make it out to be. I often see people sourcing it as one of the epitomes of CBM's or as a CBM masterpiece.

Batman Returns - I find this one to be somewhat poorly written yet it is sometimes looked at as one of the best things to come out of Batman in live-action.

Spider-Man 1 & 2 - Much like the Burton Batman films, they are treated as some of the best CBM's ever made and as the epitome of what can be done with Spider-Man in live-action. To me, the first Spider-Man film is just ok. Not a bad film but not even close to being the best superhero origin film or one of the best, as often people claim it is. SM2 is a vast improvement over the first one but I often see people saying that it is the TDK of Spider-Man. While I think it is a good film, to say that it is the TDK of Spider-Man is a stretch especially since, much like the first film, it has a lot of problems when it comes to the portrayal of Spider-Man and a lot of his supporting cast and villains. As Spider-Man films, SM1 and SM2 are by no means bad but I don't feel they do justice to Spider-Man that much. What I mean by that is that I feel people will watch them and get a "Wow, that was pretty cool" feeling from them as opposed to a "So this is why Spider-Man is such a great character and great superhero" feeling. There are several reasons to why I feel that - the origin being rushed just to get to the main story, Spidey's archenemy (GG) being watered down, the Death of Gwen Stacy being sorta done in the first film and being very watered down, Doc Ock turned into a sympathetic villain as opposed to the egotistical cunning genius, Peter being way too much of a nerd stereotype that he wasn't even in the 1960's comics, Spider-Man barely cracking any jokes (and cracked poorly whenever they are), MJ being one of the worst love interests in CBM history and Kirsten Dunst being horribly miscast, the Spider-Man No More story not being done that well, etc. Like I said, they're not bad films but much like Burton's Batman films, I feel that they're only propped up so high due to nostalgia and due to being released in a time when CBM's were made so rarely that people were happy whenever they got one at all.

Iron Man 2, Thor, and CA:TFA - Again, good movies but nowhere as good as people make them out to be. When people often talk about Marvel Studios, they often refer to all their films being on the same level of quality as Iron Man and The Avengers were. However, I don't find that to be the case. I find that one of the major reasons why these films are regarded as CBM masterpieces is due to them being in the MCU and being connected to The Avengers. These films have many flaws that people often overlook, flaws that people would have wanted to crucify Fox and Sony for if they would have done the same thing. Examples off the top of my head include radically changing Thor's origin and watering down the Red Skull. Nobody seems to mind that. But give Peter Parker a skateboard or water down the Lizard (who was still not as watered down as Red Skull was) and everybody loses their minds.
I agree with every word here.

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We should rename this thread. "Take a jab at TDKR and occasionally go at SM2,TDK,SM1,IM3 and TASM"

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Old 07-31-2013, 05:12 PM   #156
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I agree with Shikamaru's general thoughts on those movies (except CA:TFA), but I don't get how IM2 could possibly be "overrated" when it's probably the most-criticized movie in MCU canon. It's pretty consistently treated as the black sheep of the MCU.

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IM2 is not that bad. I don't like it but it's not garbage IMO

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Old 07-31-2013, 05:23 PM   #158
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I agree with Shikamaru's general thoughts on those movies (except CA:TFA), but I don't get how IM2 could possibly be "overrated" when it's probably the most-criticized movie in MCU canon. It's pretty consistently treated as the black sheep of the MCU.
I still struggle to understand how the MCU movies are overrated, since they are criticised A LOT (minus IM and TA).

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Old 07-31-2013, 05:32 PM   #159
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People nitpick TDKR too much

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People nitpick TDKR too much
Not just TDKR. Most CBMs get nitpicked after a while.

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I agree with every word here.
My initial reaction was to this was "Wait, he really agrees with me on TDKR?" until I took a closer look and noticed that you unquoted that part.

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We should rename this thread. "Take a jab at TDKR and occasionally go at SM2,TDK,SM1,IM3 and TASM"
That depends on what you consider to be a "jab" at a film, which is subjective for each user.

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I agree with Shikamaru's general thoughts on those movies (except CA:TFA), but I don't get how IM2 could possibly be "overrated" when it's probably the most-criticized movie in MCU canon. It's pretty consistently treated as the black sheep of the MCU.
I'm not seeing it get as much praise now but I did see it get a lot of praise in the past.

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I'm not seeing it get as much praise now but I did see it get a lot of praise in the past.
Really?

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TA is a bit overrated

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My initial reaction was to this was "Wait, he really agrees with me on TDKR?" until I took a closer look and noticed that you unquoted that part.


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Captain America got a lot of praise? From what i recall, it was pretty much said to be a solid entertaining film. I don't seem to remember a mass of people claiming it to be one of the best ever or anything.
As far as I'm concerned that was over praising it.

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As far as I'm concerned that was over praising it.
That's like a 6-7/10.

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X-Men is overrated, in my opinion.

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I think TDKR is beautifully made movie but there are so many things that make you go
Like when Blake says he was able to recognise Batman with a look. Dear me.
Still prefer it to Batman Begins as to me that movie (BB) is just boring, just like I prefer X3 to X1 for the same reason.

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Here we go with the Rami fanboy who has never read a spider-man comic and finds TASM dark and gritty dispite the team saying they weren't aiming for that.
Typical Webb fanboy response.

Of course the team would say that to avoid any Nolan/Twilight comparisons. Oh, and I've read plenty of Spider-Man comics, thanks....

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The Dark Knight.

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The Dark Knight.
Why do you think TDK is overrated?
It has brilliant performances, brilliant action and argubly one of the greatest villian performances commited to film.
With that said, if someone said it is an overrated 'Batman' movie I wouldn't agree but I could at least understand this opinion.


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Why do you think TDK is overrated?
It has brilliant performances, brilliant action and argubly one of the greatest villian performances commited to film.
With that said, if someone said it is an overrated 'Batman' movie I wouldn't agree but I could at least understand this opinion.
I realize it was a well made film, but people do overrate it like hell. People talk about it as if it could cure cancer or bring world peace or something like that.

And there's the fact that the DKT in general gave birth to one of the craziest fanbases to ever plague the internet, imo.

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I realize it was a well made film, but people do overrate it like hell. People talk about it as if it could cure cancer or bring world peace or something like that.

And there's the fact that the DKT in general gave birth to one of the craziest fanbases to ever plague the internet, imo.
TDK is my favorite comic book movie but as a film it isn't even in my top 20 films of all time.

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Typical Webb fanboy response.

Of course the team would say that to avoid any Nolan/Twilight comparisons. Oh, and I've read plenty of Spider-Man comics, thanks....
Well then you would know that Brian Micheal Bendis's Spider-Man is a hipster and his "twilight hair" is just comic book accuracy. You accuse the film of being too diferent but also "ripping off other films". Which one is it? It can't be both.

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Yeah, but i don't think anybody is rating it that highly, i give it a score of 6, would be way higher if not for the last part of the movie
I don't know. I've seen quite a lot of people on this site said it was one of the best comic book movies ever made.

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