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Old 07-31-2013, 11:34 AM   #101
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Gotta agree.
Stylistically, FF has a lot more in common with the MCU's four-color approach to a traditional Marvel universe, while the X-Universe is all about the superhero as shunned outsider. There's no place for the "rockstars" of the FF in that kind of milieu.


Here's what I'd *seriously* like to see happen, even though it's just pie in the sky dreaming:

1) Fox gives Marvel Studios the FF. The MCU focuses on the classic "four-color" comic books....Hulk, Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Avengers, Fantastic Four, Dr. Strange, Black Panther, etc.
2) Fox expands the X-Universe with new titles and brands, including Wolverine, Deadpool, X-Force, X-Factor, Cable, New Mutants, and others.
3) Marvel Studios gives its "street level"/Marvel Knight heroes to Sony, who then expand into a crimefighter-type universe, including Daredevil, Ghost Rider, Blade, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Moon Knight.


That's pretty much it, i think those 3 different properties should be in the universes they fit best, and wherever Spider-Man is, the Daredevil should be too

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Old 07-31-2013, 11:40 AM   #102
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That's pretty much it, i think those 3 different properties should be in the universes they fit best, and wherever Spider-Man is, the Daredevil should be too
Daredevil is dark. Spider-Man is a mixture of light and dark e.g
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His personality (witty)
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Some of his Villains like Green Goblin or Carnage
His journey- Dead Parents, Uncle, Girlfriend/ near fiancé

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Gotta agree.
Stylistically, FF has a lot more in common with the MCU's four-color approach to a traditional Marvel universe, while the X-Universe is all about the superhero as shunned outsider. There's no place for the "rockstars" of the FF in that kind of milieu.


Here's what I'd *seriously* like to see happen, even though it's just pie in the sky dreaming:

1) Fox gives Marvel Studios the FF. The MCU focuses on the classic "four-color" comic books....Hulk, Cap, Thor, Iron Man, Avengers, Fantastic Four, Dr. Strange, Black Panther, etc.
2) Fox expands the X-Universe with new titles and brands, including Wolverine, Deadpool, X-Force, X-Factor, Cable, New Mutants, and others.
3) Marvel Studios gives its "street level"/Marvel Knight heroes to Sony, who then expand into a crimefighter-type universe, including Daredevil, Ghost Rider, Blade, Luke Cage, Iron Fist and Moon Knight.
Sony is probably too cheap/broke to do Marvel Knights justice. I'd give it to Paramount or Universal who would be required to make at least two movies a year or lose the rights. The rights would return to Marvel after 10 years no matter what. Also Marvel cameos between studios would be allowed.

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Old 07-31-2013, 12:50 PM   #104
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Agreed, but in X2 they also had purpose...

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Old 07-31-2013, 02:33 PM   #105
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No, it's because they genuinely suck. Look at the movies they've made, look at the bastardizations they did with Galactus and Dr. Doom.
*cough* Mandarin *cough*

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Old 07-31-2013, 02:35 PM   #106
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The whole mandarin thing seems to be Marvel Studio's kyrptonite...

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Old 07-31-2013, 03:05 PM   #107
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The whole mandarin thing seems to be Marvel Studio's kyrptonite...
I fail to see why the 'Mandarin Twist' was not liked by some people, but the each their own, I suppose

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Old 07-31-2013, 03:13 PM   #108
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*cough* Mandarin *cough*

Please, Mandarin was NOWHERE near as bad as Dr Doom or Galactus.

Infact, no other villains in the MCU or any other CBM (DC included) were as bad as the Norman Orborne rip off or the giant fart cloud.

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Old 07-31-2013, 03:17 PM   #109
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I fail to see why the 'Mandarin Twist' was not liked by some people, but the each their own, I suppose
People wanted the mandarin. People also felt lied too. The one thing I liked about it was that it was kept a secret, unlike khan in Star Trek 2

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Please, Mandarin was NOWHERE near as bad as Dr Doom or Galactus.

Infact, no other villains in the MCU or any other CBM (DC included) were as bad as the Norman Orborne rip off or the giant fart cloud.
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Old 07-31-2013, 03:22 PM   #111
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Can't say I disagree with being a giant fart cloud as the best way to create a super villian is incredibly stupid.


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I wonder how this board would react if they turned Norman Osborn into an actor.

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I wonder how this board would react if they turned Norman Osborn into an actor.
I bet half would whine about it until Judgement Day.

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Old 07-31-2013, 03:42 PM   #114
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I bet half would whine about it until Judgement Day.
I would wine about it untill judgement day. Certainly beat emo Peter Parker as the the worst treatment of a Spider-Man character.

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I wonder how this board would react if they turned Norman Osborn into an actor.
That's because Green Goblin is a great iconic villain. Mandarin isn't.

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Can't say I disagree with being a giant fart cloud as the best way to create a super villian is incredibly stupid.
That was down to budget though, Galactus clearly isn't the cloud, that's an extension of him, we do see his helmet in the fire or whatever it is. So it's down to budget more than anything.

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I wonder how this board would react if they turned Norman Osborn into an actor.

That isn't even the same thing! In the comics, Mandrin isn't the real name of the guy with alien tech rings, infact nobody knows his name. I'm not even going to go over this again with you. Trevor/Osama Bin Mandarin wasn't the real Mandarin, Killian was.

The proper analogy would be what if in a future Spider-Man movie, a guy calling himself Green Goblin in a Green Goblin costume put out videos threatening the city turned out to be an actor and it was all masterminded by the movie's real villain Norman Osborn, who revealed to Spidey at the end that he was the true Green Goblin. How would fans react then?

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Please, Mandarin was NOWHERE near as bad as Dr Doom or Galactus.

Infact, no other villains in the MCU or any other CBM (DC included) were as bad as the Norman Orborne rip off or the giant fart cloud.
Parallax. Which was also a giant fart cloud.

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That was down to budget though, Galactus clearly isn't the cloud, that's an extension of him, we do see his helmet in the fire or whatever it is. So it's down to budget more than anything.
Budget? It came down to Rothman thinking giant robots would look too silly on screen and that Galactus would be better as a cloud.


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Parallax. Which was also a giant fart cloud.
Galactus is still worse, atleast Parallax kinda sorta resembled the comic version, was yellow (piss yellow, but yellow nonetheless) and also floated like the comic version. Galactus on the other hand, shared none of the traits like the comic version.

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That isn't even the same thing! In the comics, Mandrin isn't the real name of the guy with alien tech rings, infact nobody knows his name. I'm not even going to go over this again with you. Trevor/Osama Bin Mandarin wasn't the real Mandarin, Killian was.

The proper analogy would be what if in a future Spider-Man movie, a guy calling himself Green Goblin in a Green Goblin costume put out videos threatening the city turned out to be an actor and it was all masterminded by the movie's real villain Norman Osborn, who revealed to Spidey at the end that he was the true Green Goblin. How would fans react then?
Ok, my question was after seeing how a majority here hated the twist (the poll) I was asking if something similar happened to GG what would the reaction be like? With respect I think also the real GG would not be called Osbourn and be another corporate CEO. He would also not use his iconic glider and punkin bombs, it would be something similar to perhaps Ultimate GG.

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No, it's because they genuinely suck. Look at the movies they've made, look at the bastardizations they did with Galactus and Dr. Doom.
yeah, because Marvel did such an awesome job with the Mandarin

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Ok I really didn't like IM3 but there is no need to be a D*** about it people. I should have seen this coming, FOX V.S Marvel. Why can't we enjoy ALL Marvel films?

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Old 07-31-2013, 04:52 PM   #124
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and with 'people' you mean yourself?
Yes, but that includes a few vocal others. I wouldn't have minded the twist if it happened sooner and Killain had Alien Rings

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goign by this site i say it is more than just him stop being so defensive of marvel studios like they can do no wrong

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