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Old 09-23-2013, 05:22 AM   #451
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I don't get how some people think Cap will make over $1 billion.
Spider-Man and Superman have not even done that yet.

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I'm pretty confident it won't make over 1 bilion!

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I don't get how some people think Cap will make over $1 billion.
Spider-Man and Superman have not even done that yet.
What? I havnt seen 1 vote in the box office poll that said over 1 bill for Cap. I rarely hear people say that, if at all.

500-700ww seems to be what most think. Which is very reasonable as of now.


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I have no idea how much it will make but I have little doubt it will make more than Origins, FC and TW. It may well out perform X3.

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I don't get how some people think Cap will make over $1 billion.
Spider-Man and Superman have not even done that yet.
Because they assume anything from MS/Disney will crap gold.

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Captain America won't even make half a billion dollars.The first movie itself wasn't that great.

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Because they assume anything from MS/Disney will crap gold.
Erm... I don't think so.

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many are assuming captain america will gain from the avengers success and truth be told it probably will, it won't make a billion but it will make more then the 1st

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many are assuming captain america will gain from the avengers success and truth be told it probably will, it won't make a billion but it will make more then the 1st
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What's awesome is they have **** gold in the past two years....and early word says SHILED just made the highest TV Drama premiere in 4 years hahaha. Learn to deal.


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Because they assume anything from MS/Disney will crap gold.
Could you come off as any more bitter? I'm not a huge fan of everything Marvel Studio's has produced, but saying stuff like this makes you seem jealous of their movies success in relation to X-Men.

Captain America certainly isn't going to make a billion, but it's definitely going to make gangbusters at the box office. It'll easily top the first one, no doubt.

They know how to market their movies - get over it.

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Bitter, party of 1? Could you tone that down please. It's perfectly acceptable to be enthusiastic about the Marvel films, even if you don't enjoy them.

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Because they assume anything from MS/Disney will crap gold.
I trust the money making decisions of a company that made a B-list character like iron man more popular than xmen (in one movie), spidey and superman. and made a character like Thor outgross wolverine (I would never of thought that would ever happen 10 years ago.)

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I dislike Iron Man 3 as much as I do Last Stand and Spider-man 3.

If making lot of money means film Is good that must mean the star wars prequels and
Transformers are great movies.That must mean Last Stand Is best X-Men film then.

The premiere of Shield confirmed my meh attitude.It's the worst premiere episdoe of any
Joss Whedon show.Considering how I feel on reality shows,CSI,and NciS what It does In crooked Nielson ratings doesn't matter to me.And May I remind people V back In 2009 had
big premiere ratings.Lost premiered with 14 Million In nielson and eventully went to 9/10 Million.

It's getting where you would think people In X-Men board want the films to fail and only Disney/MS to succeed.

people need to be more realstic.No MS film not starring Robert Downey JR has ever made 200 Million domesticly.Cap and thor both did Origins business.There Is no guranette thor and cap will do Iron Man business.Using Iron Man 3 as model compared to Iron Man 2 best case sceniro Is doing between 250 and 270 Million Domesticly.Those films will not have bigger legs than Iron Man.I remember when people claimed Man of steel would do over 300 Million.

I don't want X-Men to become avengers and while I don't like over using ultimates as source and It'd take on Bruce banner I have called Avengers one of 10 best comic book films.
I haven't trully liked their solo films since the Incredible hulk.That was last good solo film.And I don't care if that was least sucessful MS studios film I liked It than most other films
they have done.When I say TV ads calling Iron Man 3 best Iron Man film I thought are they on drugs.The only good Iron Man solo film was first film In my oporion.

As long as Disney hurt X-Men films by their actions with their control of merchandise I really don't care much about their MS films.

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It's getting where you would think people In X-Men board want the films to fail and only Disney/MS to succeed.
Or people could just be sensible and hope all of the upcoming superhero films to be good and succeed, so we get more good superhero films after that.

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1)I dislike Iron Man 3 as much as I do Last Stand and Spider-man 3.

If 2)making lot of money means film Is good that must mean the star wars prequels and
Transformers are great movies.That must mean Last Stand Is best X-Men film then.

people need to be more realstic 3).No MS film not starring Robert Downey JR has ever made 200 Million domesticly.Cap and thor both did Origins business.There Is no guranette thor and cap will do Iron Man business.Using Iron Man 3 as model compared to Iron Man 2 best case sceniro Is doing between 250 and 270 Million Domesticly.Those films will not have bigger legs than Iron Man.I remember when people claimed Man of steel would do over 300 Million.


4) As long as Disney hurt X-Men films by their actions with their control of merchandise I really don't care much about their MS films.
1) Why is it the only time I ever hear people harshly bash IM3 its always from comic book fans online? In my opinion, I thought it was good but forgettable. Just a decent family outing. (I don't care about the mandarin or what they did to the him)

2) You started a discussion about MONEY not quality. Like I said, Disney can sell films, big woop.

3) Big deal those films gross more money WW, will continue to do so, and with Disney's support through TV shows and merchandising they should continue to do so.

4) With DC now entering the arena the summer CBM market is gonna become over-saturated, which could be bad for Sony, Fox DC, and disney. with Disney withholding Xmen merchandise they cause the films to gross less than they could due to the lack of extra promotion, a weaker Xmen franchise, could lead to brand becoming forgettable thus creating an impression of an under-saturated market, or leaving to be "deregulated" to dates outside Summer. Disney are trying to protect their own interests.
Frankly Disney have several bloody franchises that most likely would sell more toys than xmen toys (which in all honesty is just Wolverine and the occasional Cyclops eye thingy) they want companies to focus their efforts on their own films, not franchises that they dont own. Unlike spiderman, Xmen and f4 have more of a chance to revert back, if disney merchandises those two properties the chance of them reverting back decreases. Disney also dont see the point of promoting another company's movies, as they themselves have tons of other movies to promote. It's not sabotage ITS BUSINESS.


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comic book fans have right to dislike Iron Man 3.Some people on their antifox rants trash X-Men and X2.That's why I barely ever go to Internet movie database's DOFP board.

Some people are always bringing up grosses of MS films like that makes them
great.I could bring up grosses of some films other critze on these boards.

The big overseas box office for the Wolverine show DOFP will do very well
overseas even though they will get no help from Marvel.

Why would any true X-Men fan support what Disney Is doing to X-Men brand?
If Disney were to help kill X-Men films who knows how many years It would sit on shelf considering how much DIsney Is trying to kill X-Men franchise.

With all the every film Fox does is terrable attitude for so many online god forbid someone Is critical of disney/MS.

I distrst most corporations.I have critized the hell out of fox on Last Stand and Origins.And don't have kind words for first 2 FF films and Elektra.
I really don't like DOFP apparently dropping the brotherhood assassination plot In favor of doing another Xavier and Magneto team up.And If they try to pull
a Abrams Trek with DOFP I will critze the hell out of that.Now when will some
others be willing to critize MS/Disney.

If others can critze the hell out of X-Men films Why can't somebody critize Disney.Some people would make It seem like they prefer GOTG over DOFP.
If that Is wrong well they could make others think that.

I was not wild about Iron Man 2 and 3,Thor,Captain America,and agents of shield.Others have right to like them and call me crazy for not liking them.
It won't change my oporion.If I love DOFP even without the brotherhood
assassination plot others will be free to dislike It.and call me crazy for liking It.

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1) Some people are always bringing up grosses of MS films like that makes them great.

Why would any true X-Men fan support what Disney Is doing to X-Men brand?
If Disney were to help kill X-Men films 2)who knows how many years It would sit on shelf considering how much DIsney Is trying to kill X-Men franchise.

With all the every film Fox does is terrable attitude for so many 3)god forbid someone Is critical of disney/MS.

I distrst most corporations.I have critized the hell out of fox on Last Stand and Origins.And don't have kind words for first 2 FF films and Elektra.
4)I really don't like DOFP apparently dropping the brotherhood assassination plot In favor of doing another Xavier and Magneto team up.And If they try to pull
a Abrams Trek with DOFP I will critze the hell out of that


3)If others can critze the hell out of X-Men films Why can't somebody critize Disney.


I was not wild about Iron Man 2 and 3,Thor,Captain America,and agents of shield.Others have right to like them and 3)call me crazy for not liking them.
1)ignore those people. although box office gross could be increased if audiences and critics enjoy it.

2) if disney got their hands on A franchise that has proven itself to be stable, though not the highest grossing, it will probably sit on the shelf for 2-3.... days.

3) some people like things you dont like, and hate things you do like. this is a lesson most people are taught by the age of 3 or 4. Accept it and MOVE ON. You make it sound like you want people to criticize something just to make you feel better.


4)So DOFP (which is a LOOSE adaption) could be the greatest movie ever but you're willing to not like it due to it excluding plot elements that you personally want to see?

5) head down to Staples. its time for a new keyboard.

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It absolutely doesn't make them great but any business/marketing person knows that it's something that needs to be researched and analyzed.

Marvel Studios success is certainly something that Fox should, and probably already has, looked at in order to see what changes they need to make in order to get their movies to the same level as well.

There's nothing wrong with that - it's basic business/marketing strategy planning.

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And? What are you suggesting Marvel Studio's do? Start creating toys to promote another studio's movie? That's awful business. And if Fox's X-Men movies do good without the merchandise branding then even better for them!

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If Disney were to help kill X-Men films who knows how many years It would sit on shelf considering how much DIsney Is trying to kill X-Men franchise.
What in the world are you talking about? How is Disney destroying the X-Men franchise? Because of merchandising rights? Seriously...you sound ridiculous.

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Or people could just be sensible and hope all of the upcoming superhero films to be good and succeed, so we get more good superhero films after that.

Liking another studio's films doesn't mean you want your personal favorite to fail.


It's great to not be biased, not just with certain studios but also when it comes to the whole Marvel vs DC thing. Personally, I get the best of both worlds so long as the movie is good.

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As long as Disney hurt X-Men films by their actions with their control of merchandise I really don't care much about their MS films.
Really? Could have fooled me , you contribute to the MCU's Film and TV every single time they release something and then whine over their success. You seem to care quite a bit.

Don't like it? Don't watch it. No one is forcing you to continue watching SHIELD or to buy a ticket for GOTG and Cap 2. Enough films are out for you to have made a decision on if you enjoy the MCU world or not.


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