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It's cool man. Glad you loved MOS and I'm glad you're amped for this sequel.
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As is using a strawman argument, which is what you did when you said "I don't go to see comic movies because there is a chance they will win oscars." I never said comic book movies had to be oscar bait to be good. I never even implied that. And listing amount of critical acclaim received as one of many possible criteria for judging the success of a movie that isn't based on money doesn't mean I'm talking about critics raving about something like Schindler's List of Beast of the Southern Wild. Critics can also acclaim big summer blockbusters that will never come close to on Oscar. They often do. I was never not talking about films in the context of big summer blockbusters like you implied. Just because a movie isn't trying to be like "The Godfather" or a movie like that doesn't give it license to be a badly made film. It doesn't excuse the flaws a film might have. The original Star Wars trilogy, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Die Hard, The Avengers, Men in Black, Terminator 2, these are all big summer blockbusters that were made with the primary goal of having a good time. They're also expertly crafted films that have a lot of heart and a lot of meaningful emotional substance that make them more than just a collection of action set pieces. Those are the movies I'm thinking of when I judge wether or not I'd call Man of Steel a success. And by the standard of those films and other great films like them, no, I wouldn't call it a success.
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to be fair, zack could always choose to not do the film.
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Rewatching TA, I noticed that there was a film serial type quality to the film. I honestly think TA will be a modern classic, despite what the hipsters say. A non MOS2 Superman/Batman movie should take a hint from it.
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Really, I have nothing against people who liked the film. There's no reason to be bothered by it. The thing that bugs me is when people who liked the film are dismissive of people who didn't. When the response is "you're just a biased fanboy who can't ever be pleased and you dislike this movie for irrational reasons" or "you're just a snob who needs everything to be high art and can't enjoy a fun romp" instead of "I understand your points but, but I really don't see the flaws in the film that you see" or "that wasn't a problem for me like it was for you, and here's why..." Like, I enjoy debating the merits of a film with people, very passionately even, I just don't dig it when people straight up dismiss my right to dislike a film. That's the vibe I was getting from your posts. If I misread you, I apologize wholeheartedly.
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I apologize. I misread your intent.
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Well, I went to the site and it just says a source of The Superman Homepage told Snyder about some of the fans concerns,
particularly about Miller/TDKR and Snyder supplied that quote . I would like somebody to track Snyder down and see what he says about the quote, As well as the conversation he had with the source . |
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I doubt he doesn't want to make the film. In the past he has talked about wanting to adapt Dark Knight Returns (he called it his favorite comic) and has an affinity for Batman. If anything I think it would be the other way around and he would rather make this than another standalone Superman film.
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Batman doesn't need a chick. Batman just needs thugs lining up at his door asking to be beat down. "Please Batman, throw another bat-a-rang at my face!! It just goes to show you what a semi-normal person like me would do with all those gadgets, skills, and money! I won't even begin to get into what I would do if I had Superman's powers. Talk about the world being my oyster!
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All it takes is a photo of a woman in his wallet or something like that to signify Bruce's straightness. |
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BH/HHH said, "Superman deserved to have more development in a solo sequel."
If the quote from Snyder is true, then WB obviously were getting worried that MOS was not the surefire hit that was expected. They might have even become a bit worried that they might have another Superman Returns type reception for MOS2. And after all, it is WB's money that goes to financing such a big budget sequel, and they have every right to ask this question. I am just a bit confused, and also a bit annoyed if it is true, that it was strictly Christopher Nolan's idea to have the Dark Knight series as a trilogy. Why would Warner Brothers restrict a monumentally spectacular series to only three movies? If Noland didn't want to make more than three films, the story could have continued under someone else's direction. Let us continue with the characters that have already been successfully established - but with new actors in the continuing roles if necessary. Okay, the masterpiece that was Ledger's Joker is gone, but someone else could eventually step into that same characterization created by him - there are plenty of really good actors out there who could probably do the same Joker interpretation. I am happy that WB stepped in if this is true. It could have been years - maybe over five - to seen our favourite character return if they had not. |
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Because Nolan's very protective of his movies. He also earned WB a lot of money.
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This is like Hollywood 101. Trust me, Batman will have a lady friend. |
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One night, Bruce has too much fun in the Batcave.
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