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Old 10-13-2013, 06:42 PM   #26
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In my experiences, she's well-known enough so that the first thing that most people say is "she the woman who can go invisible and use force fields."

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And you can see into their minds to see what they visualize when they hear the name? Because that is just as important...

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http://schmoesknow.com/schmoes-know-...c-four-reboot/

It's official yo.

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Let the internet rage begin now...........

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"Official" is when the trades report it, not another scoop site. I'm not saying that it probably won't be true (it probably is), just that it isn't official yet.

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Crap. Now my favorite young black actor is going to be insulted incessantly by all kinds of idiots online. After seeing the nonsense Idris Elba and Laurence Fishburne had to take for playing minor characters, i don't even wanna think about how this is going to play out.

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Unless they decide to make Sue black, it looks like they are going with the adoption phase.

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Old 10-18-2013, 01:19 AM   #33
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Crap. Now my favorite young black actor is going to be insulted incessantly by all kinds of idiots online. After seeing the nonsense Idris Elba and Laurence Fishburne had to take for playing minor characters, i don't even wanna think about how this is going to play out.
This is entirely different. I love Elba as Heimdall.

This news however, I can't stand. If this is true I'm out and I'm NOT in any way racist. Also, I AM a pure Marvel zombie. If they lost my ticket, they'll lose a lot of the base guaranteed. This casting is just flat out bizzare.

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This is entirely different.
Not even halfway toward a little.

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How is this different exactly? The ONLY difference that I can see is that Johnny is a MAIN character whereas Heimdall and Perry White were very much supporting ones.

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,,Noooo, just nooo."
Hope it's still rumour.

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Old 10-18-2013, 06:45 AM   #37
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They should not waste too much time explaining how him and Sue are related, just get that over and done with and get to the main story.

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This is entirely different. I love Elba as Heimdall.

This news however, I can't stand. If this is true I'm out and I'm NOT in any way racist. Also, I AM a pure Marvel zombie. If they lost my ticket, they'll lose a lot of the base guaranteed. This casting is just flat out bizzare.
please tell me other than his skin color makes him not able to do storm justice?

he is young and good looking and can play cocky and arrogant and has tons of charisma and quite charming he can be funny as well as serious

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I will see this out of curiosity. Just not where I spend any money on it. Perhaps sneak in & see it for free after I pay for & see another movie

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he is young and good looking and can play cocky and arrogant and has tons of charisma and quite charming he can be funny as well as serious
"But... He's black. "

It's weird how people are freaking out about his skin color, when he's going to be glowing orange for a good chunk of the movie.

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I'm still waiting to see who they cast as Sue. If Sue is also black, well, that's fine ( or as fine as a movie I expect to be a disaster can be ). If not, I will roll my eyes, though not be direly shocked ( Hollywood not exactly being big on black female leads for white male leads, outside of Halle Berry ).

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Old 10-18-2013, 12:04 PM   #42
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I'm not much of a FF fan so this news doesn't bother me at all. I'll even go ahead and say that I don't care if they decide to not make Sue and Johnny brother and sister, just friends.

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I know Spidey will be giddy at this news.

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Well I can be called all the names in the book, just like I can't stand our president...but if I say I don't agree with his policies (which I don't), I'm automatically called a racist...its ridiculous.

I am a Marvel Zombie since I was 10...the Fantastic 4, the way they look, act, villains, stories, all of that goes into the reasons why I llike the characters. I don't agree that they should change races just because...you should do your best to make a character as close to the source material as possible and that includes looks...I mean Julian McMahon looked a lot like Victor Von Doom, but once he started trying to do the character justice, he failed.

Chris Evans on the other hand, is a versatile actor...he can act like Johnny, look like him, and at the same time play a perfect Steve Rogers/Captain America. That is why he will always be the perfect Johnny Storm.

Yes, I don't agree with this...but this is only one part of what I've heard I don't like...I didn't really like UFF...Kirby/Lees run, Hickman's, Byrne's run...any of those would be acceptable to use...older actors...better time developing characters...I just feel this is going to fail...it seriously needs to be part of the Marvel Universe at Disney.

Fox has only 2 really good movies out of their list and that is the first 2 X-Men movies...Marvel has had better success rate with everything else. What's the point complaining...its Doomed in every sense of the word...

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It's doomed because they cast an African-American actor as Johnny Storm?

You're not racist but you certainly are being silly.


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It's doomed because they cast an African-American actor as Johnny Storm?

You're not racist but you certainly are being silly.
I didn't mean that the movie is doomed because of his casting...I just mean that all of the collective decisions could lead to it being Doomed...perhaps I needed to explain myself further.

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Fox has only 2 really good movies? First Class and The Wolverine were great films. I'm not defining their greatness based on how accurate they were to the source material, but simply as films in their own right. Great acting, amazing chemistry, wonderful cinematography. The Wolverine was one of the best reviewed and riskiest CBMs of the summer.

People need to get over their Fox hate. They've been making some solid progress in terms of actually reshaping how they approach their comic flicks. They made a freaking period piece CBM before Marvel and they did it better (I know that's up for debate). They embraced the yellow and blue costumes before we saw the stars and stripes. They pushed that PG-13 rating as far as they could with The Wolverine and they did it halfway in a foreign language. And everyone just seems to forget that Marvel has THREE lackluster films (Hulk, IM 2 and 3) under their belt.

And don't get me wrong, I love Marvel. But I'm not going to let The Avengers blind me to some of their glaringly obvious missteps. And hell yes, Fox has made plenty as well. But it's a lot more apparent to me that Fox is actually trying to learn from them. Marvel just kinda sidesteps it all.

With that said, I look forward to seeing what Trank can bring to FF. And I'm confident that Jordan can make for an amazing Johnny Storm. It's fine if his race is an important factor for you. Fortunately, it's not very important to the actual character.

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I want F4 back at Marvel, mainly in hopes that there is no X-Men/F4 crossover "shudder". It's a movie so I don't care what colour Johnny is it's not like suddenly the comics have a black Johnny, so get over it. If this film is going to be a train wreck it will be because of a crappy script and a budget that is too low for the film to be good. If this happens I hope people don't blame it on Johnny being black.

If it looks amazing then I will see it at IMAX but, if it looks like they are half-assing it in the trailers and set shots online then I will watch it....... illegally.

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Are we sure it's actually confirmed? Usually when one of the main stars for an upcoming superhero movie is cast the news is on yahoo which it hasn't. Hell not even the front page of the SHH has reported it.


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Old 10-18-2013, 05:02 PM   #50
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It's not confirmed.It's the same rumor that's been around for months. It seems to have legs for a simple rumor,leading most to believe there is some (unfortunate) truth to it.

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