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Old 08-23-2013, 09:44 PM   #126
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About Ledger, I remember after the 6 minute preview a bunch of pathetic dorks from this site launched a petition.... but not everyone was against Ledger.
People petitioned...AFTER the IMAX preview?

What?

If anything that was the moment everybody came on board if they weren't already.

People are weird.

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Old 08-23-2013, 09:52 PM   #127
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^ Yes... a petition... AFTER the IMAX preview.

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Old 08-23-2013, 10:03 PM   #128
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I'm shocked they went with someone over 40.

The idea that Christian Bale is "too old' was laughable before, and even moreso now. I am amazed that they pulled the trigger on someone at Affleck's age.
I'd assume by the time of the movie, Bruce has been in the game for at least 10-12 years, maybe even had a Robin or 2 (that we'll probably never hear about onscreen)

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Old 08-23-2013, 11:58 PM   #129
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I'd assume by the time of the movie, Bruce has been in the game for at least 10-12 years, maybe even had a Robin or 2 (that we'll probably never hear about onscreen)


i'm actually won't be excited about batman/superman until we get some new visuals and ifnormation about bens looks and how he'll look in the role.

because now i'm wishing that Nolan had not ending TDKR the way he did because i actually want bale to be batman now. i'm not excited about batman/superman anymore.

I think WB needs to ultimately show the public something visual that shows that ben can be a credible bruce wayne and a credible batman.

show us some photoshoots of ben in a bruce wayne business suit/tuxedo attire.

show us the new batman costume at liscensing shows. show us why were are all wrong about ben.

i recall Daniel Craig getting alot of hate about him being the new bond. And he is now viewed as the best bond ever. I think he's a great 2013 new age bond.

So perhaps Ben impressed the casting people and they see something that we don't.

because the bruce wayne/batman character is a complex individual.

Christian Bale portrayed batman/bruce perfectly. he conveyed all the various layers of bruce and could be a credible batman as well.

we didn't see the scientist-tactician side of bruce - batman - but that's okay. bale was perfect.

So i honestly thought that Scott Adkins had the role. He looks perfect, he has the good talent and he would've been the fanboy choice. someone who physically and acting wise could handle the work and look badass next to henry cavill.

because there are many layers to batman.

1. batman the ultimate tactician
2. batman the detective
3. batman the ultimate fighter - martial arts expert - kombat extradonaire
4. batman the scientist - chemist
5. the vigilante crime fighter that shows no mercy and hurts bad guys badly.
6. batman - the superhero that scares criminals into confessing and giving up information.
7. batman the intellectual & scholar -
8. batman the manipulator - and realist (not idealistic like superman)
9. batman the cold hearted - unforgiving vigilante.
10. batman the technical expert.

the bruce wayne side.

1. the scared angry little boy who lost his parents
3. the morally conflicted man in emotional pain
2. the fake millionare playboy who is aloof
3. the isolated loner -
4. the millionare philanthropist.

i think Kevin Conroy's batman in (justice league doom) - is how batman should be cold, calculating, manipulative, viscious - but ultimately you see batman's methods and dark actions are a necessary evil.

his intelligence and tactical skills make him a force to be wreckoned with because he can outsmart everyone and anyone. Even superman.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZmBmP-5WLg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhLfvRogiTk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlgjpnzIisI

So can ben portray all that? the way bale did?

when bale played bruce wayne - i liked how nolan defined his motivation and fighting against crime. So we will see how they approach this.

we have to wait now and see what they show us in janurary. if anything the hate he is getting should motivate WB, Zack, Goyer, and Ben to prove us wrong.


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Old 08-24-2013, 12:02 AM   #130
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I was completely on board with Ledger after the first teaser where you don't even see him, but hear his voice and laugh against logo for the film. I was never against the casting, but that's when I knew the performance was going to be special.

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Old 08-24-2013, 02:16 AM   #131
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I had faith in Ledger since he was already a proven character actor and had a performance of a lifetime in Brokeback already in his belt when he was cast.

Affleck is already a proven great
director, but as an actor, he's just decent/good.

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Old 08-24-2013, 02:16 AM   #132
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Hope he'll defy my expectations.

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Old 08-24-2013, 02:52 AM   #133
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Comics fans never learn I'm sure everyone thought Chris Evans will be a good option for Captain America wait no Almost everyone thought he a bad choice

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Old 08-24-2013, 03:29 AM   #134
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i like Affleck and i believe he will do an excellent job as Bruce/Batman

Snyder has thus far done an excellent job with his casting decisions in his comic adaptions (300, Watchmen, & Man of Steel), so i got faith with who he went with

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Old 08-24-2013, 04:08 AM   #135
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I laughed my ass off at this news at first and was completely against it, now I'm actually kind of feeling bad for the guy. I didn't mind him in Daredevil, I blame poor direction for that movie. He did well in Argo. BUT...he acts the same in all his movies. That's my concern. He'll be Ben Affleck playing Ben Affleck as Bruce Wayne.

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Old 08-24-2013, 04:17 AM   #136
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I don't care about casting or looks it's just story and performances that matters to me
many stars who are looked down on acting have made great unexpected impact in films through their acting and stunning performance .
I don't want any type of Known and seen batman either I just want to get surprised with the Ideas that make a movie like TDK a grand Entertainment .
I also want this movie to score well and give everyone the entertainment that Avengers did

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Old 08-24-2013, 12:35 PM   #137
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Personally i think he is a great choice for Batman....the new Batman Reboot Film is going to be awesome

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Old 08-24-2013, 01:16 PM   #138
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I remain on the fence until I see a trailer. I like Affleck as an actor, and while it is cool to see Holden freaking McNeil as Batman, I just can't bring myself to fully accept it. All in all, let's just see how this plays out.

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Old 08-24-2013, 01:31 PM   #139
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I just got back into the US, so I got the news a few minutes ago. I actually like it. I can totally see it working.

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I am going to remain on the fence until i so a Picture of Affleck as Batman..

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Old 08-24-2013, 04:04 PM   #141
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Okay..this looks fantastic. This is fan-art


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Old 08-24-2013, 06:17 PM   #142
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This is a nice photoshop:


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Old 08-24-2013, 09:32 PM   #143
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Now there's a batman.

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Old 08-25-2013, 12:13 AM   #145
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Argo
The Town
Hollywoodland
State of Play
Dogma
Good Will Hunting
Dazed and Confused

And yes, "he was the bomb in Phantoms yo!"

Even in some iffy movies, he's been good. Movies like Mallrats and Dazed and Confused he plays a very convincing ********. In Dogma, his big dramatic scene with Matt Damon is awesome. And I actually think he's got some good comedic chops although he won't be displaying those as Batman. And really, honestly, for true I don't think he was bad AT ALL in Daredevil. I don't get the hate for that performance. He wasn't earth-shattering "OMG he IS Daredevil!" or anything but I saw a good Matt Murdock and Daredevil onscreen.

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Old 08-25-2013, 02:22 AM   #146
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Agreed, Gremlin. Pretty much any faults I had with DD were because of FOX and their crap scripts, but most of it left my mind once I saw the DC. Seeing those photoshops makes me excited to see him as Bruce/Batman.

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....ugh. I wish those photomanips could convince me!! ALL I SEE IS BEN AFFLECK!!!! NOT BATMAN.

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Old 08-25-2013, 06:06 AM   #148
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I'm much happier about the casting now that I'm reading that Affleck will be involved with the script and has a long term deal. As a complete package, Affleck is a huge positive to the Batman franchise, especially if he goes on to direct.

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i have an idea. WB should do some viral campaigns.

kinda how they did for Aaron Eckart as harvey dent or how they're doing things for x-men days of future past (trask industries)

they need to do a similar viral campaign as teasers. maybe some wayne tech posters? and slowly but surely reveal ben as bruce wayne in some creative ads?

because i think people are more worried and dissappointed than excited.

WB needs to do something to restore confidence. when i saw the first teaser images of heath as joker - i was sold on the idea.




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You are right that there is a difference, but at its root the situation is the same, closer than you may think, actually.

Keaton may have been a great actor, but it was in films that nobody saw, that were also huge flops. Mr. Mom was a surprise hit (but not a box office smash), but it didn't make people think of him as a great actor (comedies usually are looked upon as less 'worthy' performances in the grand pantheon of acting). Even people that didn't assume the tone would be campy in BATMAN still doubted Keaton could pull it off. So there was the worry over the tone, and then Keaton's skill was almost a separate complaint.

Like Affleck, his career was in the toilet and just starting to get back out when Beetlejuice hit and was liked. Clean and Sober proved he could do it in terms of his acting quality (he can do drama?!?) but the masses didn't see it. Ben's in a similar situation: he's given excellent performances in films since what people cling to (Daredevil), but the masses didn't see them, so they're thinking with their heads ten years in the past (with Keaton, everyone's minds were stuck on Mr. Mom, five years past).

Truth be told, Affleck has actually had more success on his upswing before Batman than Keaton did before Batman. The nature of the complaint is a little bit different, but at its heart, the reaction is exactly the same.
I hope you're joking. Last movie I saw with Affleck, and I thought it was pretty damn good, was The Town, and while I don't know much about you all, everyone I know has seen The Town and loves the movie. In today's day and age, if people are thinking of Ben back in Malls days, I think you all need to get out of the basement.


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