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Old 10-29-2013, 01:34 PM   #151
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I use to say that, advocate that for years...I no longer see that as the best option.

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Old 10-31-2013, 06:50 PM   #152
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I think they fail to develop the symbiote as its own character. It developed feelings for Peter...

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Old 10-31-2013, 08:24 PM   #153
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I'd want Peter to do the same thing that he did in TSSM. Trick the symbiote into thinking Peter wants it back so it leaves Eddie for him. Betrayal from even the symbiote would be the lowest low for Eddie. It'd also showcase Peter's cunning intelligence.

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Old 10-31-2013, 08:48 PM   #154
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Venom could quite easily be a great villain by himself for one film.

But that's the thing right there, he's really only good for about one film. The vengeance, stalker character who's more powerful in every way is something that could play out great for a film. Especially if they build Eddie up in a film prior to the one he would be the big bad in (I personally would want them to go with SSM take, perfect meld of Ultimate Venom and 616).

However, the stalker Venom only really works for one take. So in a film, it's perfect. However, that was why Venom got old very quickly in the comics and they needed to find other angles for him, because in serial format, the stalker angle can only last for so long.

One film though? No problem.
Nolan's take on Two-Face and Bane have convinced me that Venom can work.

I'd like to see Eddie as a humanitarian reporter that wants to shed light on the injustices being committed in third-world countries. A particular tyrant's dealings with a crime lord lead Eddie to New York, where he finds that (insert your favorite Spidey mobster here) is supplying that tyrant. Tie this particular mobster into Norman Osborn as well. You bring Eddie and Peter into the fold as potential allies against Norman. Perhaps something Eddie uncovers about the Parkers' involvement with Osborn causes him to doubt Peter's motives in working with him. Then take it from there.

Do we have confirmation of a symbiote in TASM2?

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Old 10-31-2013, 09:49 PM   #155
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yeah, tons of ways Venom can work really well in a movie.

When Spider-Man 3, came out, I didn't like Venom at all. I saw him as just some lame extremo example of how comic books can come up with anything good anymore.

but the movie ended up making me examine him more, and years later it finally hit me how great of a character he really is and how wrong I was the whole time.

I see Venom as being the underlying villain of a three part arc.

1st movie - introduce symbiote suit, start getting high off it's powers
2nd movie - get too high, crash, hit bottom. ditch the suit.
3rd movie - full on Venom. in the role of the stalker ex-girlfriend/drug that Peter just quit, coming after him for revenge.

only the 3rd one would truly be a Venom movie. but I think by having the foundations laid in two movies leading up to it would really make it clear exactly why he is one of Spidey's best villains.

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Old 10-31-2013, 09:51 PM   #156
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I think they fail to develop the symbiote as its own character. It developed feelings for Peter...
yeah, that's really what it's about too...
totally agree.

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Old 10-31-2013, 09:54 PM   #157
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and to me, Black Cat really has the most to offer in a Spidey story in the second and last of the 3 part arc I outlined above.

she's best used as a escape from reality and MJ for Peter, and that just ties in with the whole high and being taken over by the urges of the symbiote that he'd be feeling in the 2nd movie.

3rd movie would see Black Cat as more of a redemptive role and actually kind of in some ways serving to heal things between MJ and Peter again.

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Old 11-01-2013, 12:12 AM   #158
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Old 11-01-2013, 08:41 AM   #159
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The only use for the symbiote would be to defeat the Sinister 6 along with a mix of emotions from Gwen's death. Hatred and frustration all meshed together would make a fierce symbiote Spider-Man.
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Old 11-01-2013, 09:27 AM   #160
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If we see the symbiote and/or tentacles in the movie I'm going to fangasm.

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Old 11-01-2013, 12:30 PM   #161
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In a perfect world, they'd introduce Brock and create that tension in Amazing Spider-Man 3 by having him feud with Peter and Spider-Man... having that as a sidestory would go great lengths to building toward 4.

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Old 11-01-2013, 12:36 PM   #162
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As cool as Venom would be, I just don't think it's wise to include him at all. If we're building up to the Sinister Six, then the next two movies should be focusing on that. We don't need too many subplots.

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Old 11-01-2013, 01:02 PM   #163
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As cool as Venom would be, I just don't think it's wise to include him at all. If we're building up to the Sinister Six, then the next two movies should be focusing on that. We don't need too many subplots.

IMO, Spidey needs the aid of the symbiote in order to even stand a chance against the Sinister 6.

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Old 11-01-2013, 11:31 PM   #164
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IMO, Spidey needs the aid of the symbiote in order to even stand a chance against the Sinister 6.
I think Spider-Man would get those extra arms in 6.

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Old 11-01-2013, 11:49 PM   #165
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As much of a fan of Venom I am. I really don't believe we will see Venom in the planned 4 films. I mean, sure we might see him a potential fifth film, but that's all it is. Potential. I'd be happy if we didn't see Venom or the black suit, I'd rather wait until a director and writer have full faith in the character before we go shoving him in another film, I don't want another Spider-Man 3.

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Old 11-01-2013, 11:50 PM   #166
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I think Spider-Man would get those extra arms in 6.
I've said it for a while. If The Lizard isn't apart of the Sinister Six, he'll help Spider-Man. If he is, I still think Felicity Jones is playing Felicia Hardy.

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Old 11-02-2013, 12:55 AM   #167
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As much of a fan of Venom I am. I really don't believe we will see Venom in the planned 4 films. I mean, sure we might see him a potential fifth film, but that's all it is. Potential. I'd be happy if we didn't see Venom or the black suit, I'd rather wait until a director and writer have full faith in the character before we go shoving him in another film, I don't want another Spider-Man 3.
Most people, even those that were satisfied with the movie, can agree that Brock's character was rushed. Venom should've been in the 4th one so he could have a movie to himself. An anti-Spider-Man is an excellent movie premise, but it could've been better.

How I'd have done it:
- Suit possesses Peter, and while suspicious of the suit, he needs it to be able to fight Sandman.
- Brock takes pictures of "Spider-Man" leaving the scene of a killing, and it looks just like Spider-Man. Gets job over Peter at the Bugle.
- Do the whole corruption/fall of Spider-Man as he's wearing the black suit.
- Spider-Man confronts Brock about his pictures, almost getting to the point of killing him (dropping him from off the top of a church).
- Suddenly, he realizes what he's becoming and discards the suit.
- Brock gets suit with a Venom cameo at the end.

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Yeah, the church scene should have been the cliffhanger. It would have made SM3 bearable and given them more time to develop Venom. That how Webb should do it if they choose to take another shot at the fan favorite.

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Old 11-02-2013, 01:02 PM   #169
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You can't just shoe in one of the three villains like that, Goblin, Ock, and Venom deserve a film as the villain, not having to share it with anyone else. Take out Venom and just place him at the end of the film as a sign of what's to come. The movie would've been fine if Venom wasn't shoved down our throats in the end with a whopping fifteen minutes of screen time. It's also gay that Brock got killed from one pumpkin bomb. No matter how they did it, Venom was going to be rushed, and Harry was going to get the shaft.

It would've been better if it was Sandman/Vulture like Raimi wanted it. Because Vulture is less complicated than Venom and would've been tied with Sandman from the start and shared scenes with him. Plus, he didn't have an arc or descent to evil since he would've began the film as an evil villain. That's two villain arcs going on instead of three unrelated ones. Sandman and Venom didn't go together at all.

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Old 11-03-2013, 10:12 AM   #170
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I used to like Venom, as a matter of fact he was my favourite Spider-Man villain but after his piss poor debut in Spider-Man 3 I have lost all interest in the character. Sony should be less eager to do Venom as the thing I see people wanting most in this new franchise is not Venom but an Avengers crossover.

I would much rather they do the classic villains like Mysterio, Green Goblin, Doc Ock and even Vulture before we even get an Easter Egg of Venom.

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Old 11-11-2013, 03:31 PM   #171
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Read Venom Circle of Four today.

Other than making a great movie, (that'd never happen) it makes me long for an Agent Venom movie.

I'd love to see Flash leave for the War in ASM2 and in ASM3 come back without legs.

Meanwhile in ASM3 Pete has about abandons the Symbiote and delivers it to a science facility where it's confiscated by the military and used for Project Rebirth.

Then in a post credit stinger Flash is recruited to use it and jiumps at the chane to emulate his hero.

Launch a Venom solo series of movies where he battles to control the Symbiote while balancing his personal life and going on missions.

Have him go up againt Jack O'Lantern.

ASM4 could feature both Spidey and Agent Venom going up against the Sinster Six.

Plus it's so different than every other Superhero movie, it's basically a Licenced Punisher with spiderman powers. And so different from their failed Brock Venom that it'd draw no parrallels

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Read Venom Circle of Four today.

Other than making a great movie, (that'd never happen) it makes me long for an Agent Venom movie.

I'd love to see Flash leave for the War in ASM2 and in ASM3 come back without legs.

Meanwhile in ASM3 Pete has about abandons the Symbiote and delivers it to a science facility where it's confiscated by the military and used for Project Rebirth.

Then in a post credit stinger Flash is recruited to use it and jiumps at the chane to emulate his hero.

Launch a Venom solo series of movies where he battles to control the Symbiote while balancing his personal life and going on missions.

Have him go up againt Jack O'Lantern.

ASM4 could feature both Spidey and Agent Venom going up against the Sinster Six.

Plus it's so different than every other Superhero movie, it's basically a Licenced Punisher with spiderman powers. And so different from their failed Brock Venom that it'd draw no parrallels
Sounds good. No matter what, Peter's gonna need help to fight the Sinister Six.

Venom, Black Cat, Scarlet Spider...let Sony give them solos and then team them up for the Sinister Six.

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sorry all these sound like good ideas
but i dont think venom will appear in this film series

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^ This is Eddie Brock done right.

Not to mention Ryan Kwanten is a perfect casting choice for Eddie as well. He really nails it.

I hope TPTB are paying attention.

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^ This is Eddie Brock done right.

Not to mention Ryan Kwanten is a perfect casting choice for Eddie as well. He really nails it.

I hope TPTB are paying attention.
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