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Old 03-21-2014, 05:36 AM   #251
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^Tony Stark. They should kill him in Avengers 3 if RDJ doesn't come back for more movies.

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Old 03-21-2014, 05:42 AM   #252
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I think I know who will kick the bucket!
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Jarvis/Vision will maybe by destroying Ultron and himself but plot twist! SW brings him back to alive! she can do that what other way to show it then that!

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Old 03-21-2014, 06:41 AM   #253
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I think I know who will kick the bucket!
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Jarvis/Vision will maybe by destroying Ultron and himself but plot twist! SW brings him back to alive! she can do that what other way to show it then that!
Not a bad shout actually, we've certainly grown attached to the character

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Old 03-21-2014, 12:35 PM   #254
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Funny you say this, because when I think "dark second chapter" I think Empire, in which none of the characters die. Versus Star Wars where Obi-Wan dies

Of course, Han is tortured and left in a very precarious situation, but that's not quite the same as killing one of the main characters
Well met!

On the other hand it was supposed to be Han's death scene, but you're right, it can be done, but on the other hand, it must not be too easy, if STAR WARS is our example.

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Old 03-21-2014, 01:10 PM   #255
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I thought Han's death scene was for ROTJ?

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Old 03-21-2014, 01:42 PM   #256
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Have Ultron kill off the world security council (if they don't get killed in CATWS)

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Old 03-21-2014, 01:51 PM   #257
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I like that idea they have been sued and blacklisted by Ultron

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Old 03-21-2014, 04:28 PM   #258
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Have Ultron nuke a city or two, something like that. Then show the Avengers observing and trying to deal with the aftermath. That would get across the magnitude of the threat without having to kill off any of the major characters.

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Old 03-21-2014, 05:10 PM   #259
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Have Ultron nuke a city or two, something like that. Then show the Avengers observing and trying to deal with the aftermath. That would get across the magnitude of the threat without having to kill off any of the major characters.
it'd take too much time to deal with a nuked city.

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Old 03-21-2014, 05:58 PM   #260
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Not really, just a quick scene of them surveying the damage or looking for survivors. It wouldn't take very long at all.

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Old 03-21-2014, 08:20 PM   #261
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Old 03-21-2014, 10:02 PM   #262
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They won't kill Cap before doing some sort of registration story line. They can't have mutants obviously but there's a reason why all these supers are popping up in Avengers 2. Avengers 3 would be the perfect back drop to do registration story line with the influx of supers. You need Cap for that.

I would guess they kill Black Widow or Hawkeye. Black Widow movie could be a ruse by your logic. They won't kill any of the top 4 (Hulk, Iron Man, Cap, Thor). That won't happen until Avengers 3.
All signs point to Thanos for Avengers 3, so I don't see a registration plotline being done in Avengers 3. Maybe in phase 4 (Evans said he'd be willing to do more Marvel films) but all signs point to Infinity Gauntlet in Avengers 3.

But I agree. I don't see any of the big 4 dying. Even when the actors leave, I see recasting. I don't think they'll kill anyone off at this stage. Maybe further down the line, but not anytime soon. Especially if their solo films keep grossing 600m or more per film.

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Old 03-22-2014, 02:17 PM   #263
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Each movie has to have sub plots. While Thanos may be the big villain in A3, the entire 150 minute movie isn't going to be only about him just like A2 isn't only going to be about Ultron. You need subplots. Thanos won't be each act's major battle just like Loki wasn't in A1 and Ultron won't be in A2. Hulk buster armor proves that. We will have a Hulk vs Avengers fight again like we did in A1.

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Old 03-22-2014, 08:14 PM   #264
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I think we will see the death of Black Widow. It has been mentioned that Natasha's past catches up with her in this film and we already know she would like get rid of the "red" in her ledger and that she owes Hawkeye a debt. What better way to do all of the above than a heroic sacrifice?

I also think we could possibly see the death of Quicksilver. It'll come at a moment of cockiness from Pietro before he is quickly disposed of by Ultron. As we have heard from Elizabeth Olsen that Wanda is a pretty damaged character, it will also add to her deteriorating mental state.

I also expect to see Hulk exiled during the movie. Maybe Ultron will see that Hulk is the biggest physical threat to him and will use the inter-dimensional technology invented by Selvig in The Dark World to send Hulk off world. Guardians of the Galaxy/Planet Hulk crossover anyone?

By the end of the film, the teams roster will be:

Captain America
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Thor
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Old 03-23-2014, 05:39 AM   #266
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I doubt they'll kill of Black Widow. I don't think anyone significant is going to die, other than maybe Fury or Pepper. I'm hoping its Pepper. Not that I don't like her character, I'd just love to see what it does Tony.

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**** we are all forgetting about Rhodey. He has been confirmed to be the film, yeah?

Maybe him?

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Old 03-23-2014, 09:43 AM   #268
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**** we are all forgetting about Rhodey. He has been confirmed to be the film, yeah?

Maybe him?
both you and six have valid points

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Old 03-23-2014, 11:30 AM   #269
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I think we will see the death of Black Widow. It has been mentioned that Natasha's past catches up with her in this film and we already know she would like get rid of the "red" in her ledger and that she owes Hawkeye a debt. What better way to do all of the above than a heroic sacrifice?

I also think we could possibly see the death of Quicksilver. It'll come at a moment of cockiness from Pietro before he is quickly disposed of by Ultron. As we have heard from Elizabeth Olsen that Wanda is a pretty damaged character, it will also add to her deteriorating mental state.

I also expect to see Hulk exiled during the movie. Maybe Ultron will see that Hulk is the biggest physical threat to him and will use the inter-dimensional technology invented by Selvig in The Dark World to send Hulk off world. Guardians of the Galaxy/Planet Hulk crossover anyone?

By the end of the film, the teams roster will be:

Captain America
Iron Man
Thor
Scarlet Witch
Hawkeye
Vision
Because Whedon's not going to kill off one of only two female heroes that are confirmed to exist in the MCU, and it'd be stupid for him to do so.
1. It's Joss Whedon the uber-feminist.
2. Thus far, there are exactly TWO female heroes in the MCU, something that many people have been complaining about. Killing off one of them would do nothing to address those issues, just make them worse.

Quicksilver being killed off in his FIRST movie outing would also be stupid and pointless.

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**** we are all forgetting about Rhodey. He has been confirmed to be the film, yeah?

Maybe him?
Ah yes, kill off the "Black best friend." One of the oldest and most tired cliché's imaginable. I don't see Whedon going there either.

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Coulson will be killed. Thus inspiring the Avengers to re-assemble

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No, Coulson will publically return. Thus inspiring the Avengers to re-assemble, to all kick Nick Fury's ass for lying to them.

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Old 03-24-2014, 04:41 AM   #273
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Did his miraculous return ever get explained? I remember in the only episode of The Shield series i'd seen, apparently some big secret was being kept from him.

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I think
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his mind /brain was put in a LMD [life model decoy] android body

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Did his miraculous return ever get explained? I remember in the only episode of The Shield series i'd seen, apparently some big secret was being kept from him.
Somewhat. He was dead for a period of time, so Fury at the time of the Avengers movie was not lieing. His body was then healed and apparently revived using some alien fluid/blood that has amazing healing/regrowth properties. His memories were tampered with using some kind of robotic contraption to believe he was just dead for a matter of minutes and rehabed in Tahiti. This was all done at a secret installation of which we are not sure that it is Shield or not.

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