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Old 02-10-2014, 12:19 PM   #176
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who is confirmed to reprise their role in AOU?
Except for Clark Gregg and Tom Hiddleston everyone else from the first Avengers movie.

BTW, who dies?

Uncle Ben Parker of course.

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Old 02-10-2014, 12:28 PM   #177
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wow thats alot of people then. i once read that they like the fact that the roster changes...now i was wondering if they already decided to exchange one or two of the first team...but since everyone returns...sooner or later some have to go

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Old 02-10-2014, 12:56 PM   #178
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I donīt think anyone will die. QS if anyone.

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Old 02-10-2014, 12:57 PM   #179
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wow thats alot of people then. i once read that they like the fact that the roster changes...now i was wondering if they already decided to exchange one or two of the first team...but since everyone returns...sooner or later some have to go
Oh and I forgot that everyone in the film except Gregg, Hiddleston, Paltrow and Skarsgaard.

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if QS dies he will just have a quick career as an avenger

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thank you dr. evil

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In order from most likely to die to least likely:

Black Panther (if appearing)
Baron Von Strucker
Ultron
Quicksilver
Hawkeye
Nick Fury
Iron Patriot
Maria Hill
Kim Soo-hyun's character (Korean Doctor lady)
Thor
Vision
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Falcon (if appearing)
Carol Danvers (if appearing)
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Old 02-10-2014, 02:05 PM   #183
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In order from most likely to die to least likely:

Black Panther (if appearing)
Baron Von Strucker
Ultron
Quicksilver
Hawkeye
Nick Fury
Iron Patriot
Maria Hill
Kim Soo-hyun's character (Korean Doctor lady)
Thor
Vision
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Black Widow
Falcon (if appearing)
Carol Danvers (if appearing)
Scarlet Witch
Hulk
Tony Stark
Him, only if it's T'Chaka.

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Old 02-10-2014, 02:49 PM   #184
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Exactly. It is highly unlikely they'll have T'Challa show up in Avengers and do his entire backstory later as a flashback.

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Old 02-10-2014, 06:26 PM   #185
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Oooooh I'd be all for the T'Chaka thing! That would totally set up a BP movie with T'Challa!

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Old 02-11-2014, 12:53 PM   #186
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The T'Chaka idea is awesome. It allows for more possibilities for T'Challa. They could go younger say, John Boyega, for the solo film.

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The T'Chaka idea is awesome. It allows for more possibilities for T'Challa. They could go younger say, John Boyega, for the solo film.
That'd be awesome! Djimon Hounsou as T'Chaka!

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Old 02-12-2014, 07:32 AM   #188
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In order from most likely to die to least likely:

Black Panther (if appearing)
Baron Von Strucker
Ultron
Quicksilver
Hawkeye
Nick Fury
Iron Patriot
Maria Hill
Kim Soo-hyun's character (Korean Doctor lady)
Thor
Vision
Captain America
Black Widow
Falcon (if appearing)
Carol Danvers (if appearing)
Scarlet Witch
Hulk
Tony Stark
Bump Tony Stark to the top of the list, and I'll give you some cred.

Good thing you've never fallen for the "black guy always dies first" myth, either. (This is 2014, not 1994.)

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Old 02-12-2014, 10:06 AM   #189
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i still find it interesting that a few folks here always manange to see race before anything else...

yeah, this is suppose to 2014, not 1994....

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Old 02-12-2014, 11:58 AM   #190
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That'd be awesome! Djimon Hounsou as T'Chaka!
Totally agree. That's been my theory since they officially announced the sequel. Have QS and SW working for the main bad (or now, BWvS) to obtain vibranium, Cap, BW and HE are sent to stop them, T'Chaka is killed in the event, T'Challa is mentioned but not introduced yet.

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Old 02-12-2014, 10:33 PM   #191
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In order from most likely to die to least likely:

Black Panther (if appearing)
Baron Von Strucker
Ultron
Quicksilver
Hawkeye
Nick Fury
Iron Patriot
Maria Hill
Kim Soo-hyun's character (Korean Doctor lady)
Thor
Vision
Captain America
Black Widow
Falcon (if appearing)
Carol Danvers (if appearing)
Scarlet Witch
Hulk
Tony Stark
I agree as long as it's T'Chaka as BP. Baron Von Struker dying is a great idea since it allows Hydra to undergo an ideological shift from fascism to communism (Zemo) or anarchism (Viper).

Quicksilver has too little history with the Avengers and too much with the X-Men for Marvel Studios to want to hang on to him. Unless it's the Ultimate version of Quicksilver, he's usually closer to Lorna than Wanda. I really don't feel that there's a good way to develop him as a character within the current MCU except as a supporting character in Inhumans where he's left as a shallow love interest.

Among the core Avengers, with talk from Marvel Studios about potential Phase 3 and 4 films for Hulk, War Machine, Black Widow, Thor and Captain America and Iron Man returning for Avengers 3, it's fair to say that if any of them die, it's most likely Hawkeye.

Vision is far too tied to Iron Man and Scarlet Witch and once Ant-Man appears, he'll also have a connection to him as well. Captain Marvel needs a solo film for her origin where the original Captain Marvel has to die for her to claim his place and there's no way that Carol Danvers is going to die when she hasn't even gained her powers yet. That's just not going to happen.

Falcon and Winter Soldier could bite it but I'm doubtful as they both have a character arc to go through and the former already died once.

Normally I'd say Nick Fury should die but he survives an assassination attempt in Cap 2 so that'll just be pointless. I'd rather see nobody die this time around and then have Avengers 3 resemble Ultimatum with deaths everywhere and only one hero remains to fight Thanos before the last remaining good guy uses the time gem to bring everyone back to life at the end.

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Old 02-13-2014, 08:08 AM   #192
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I really doubt they will kill Hawkeye. He isn't big enough to have a huge impact on viewers. I also love him so part of me is just trying to deny it

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The Avengers are safe.

The big 4 are both too popular and too important. And constant death-and-resurrections diminish the impact. I mean, no one takes character deaths in the comics even a little seriously anymore.

Black Widow's too important as one of the few female Avengers.

Hawkeye's character hasn't really been done justice in the MCU yet... though, as an aside, I'm one of the few people who actually liked his role, brainwashing and all, in The Avengers.

Vision, Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver we're only just getting to meet.

And as for the unconfirmed, "possible" Avengers (Falcon and War Machine), the MCU superhero community already has a bit of a diversity problem. So, nope. Plus, the whole black-guy-dies first thing is a pretty tough stigma to shake. Even when it's handled well (Chronicle, for example) plenty of people complained. I don't see Whedon/Marvel going this route.

The MCU version of us on the other hand? We're toast. My prediction is that Ultron takes out us gen-pop members, giant swaths at a time. I would love for Phase 3 to be set against the backdrop of a world trying to rebuild itself after the destruction caused by Ultron and his robotic minions.

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^I think that the Avengers who have death-and-resurrection storylines are fair game. As long as someone stays dead, other deaths retain their power. There's also little stopping Hawkeye from being done justice in AoU and then dying. Tony is the only one who's truly safe. Hulk is a close second, and Natasha might find herself one of a few heroines relatively quickly.

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Bump Tony Stark to the top of the list, and I'll give you some cred.

Good thing you've never fallen for the "black guy always dies first" myth, either. (This is 2014, not 1994.)
Other than 'the Black dies first' more of a subverted trope than a dead trope, if they include BP in AoU, it will be T'Chaka and he will die.

They will not however, kill off RDJ before he fulfills the last movie in his hard won new contract.

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i still find it interesting that a few folks here always manange to see race before anything else...

yeah, this is suppose to 2014, not 1994....
Who sees race before anything else?

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Old 02-13-2014, 11:55 AM   #195
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If they want to go with the "Black guy dies first" thing, it has to be T'Chaka. Not Rhodey, not Falcon, not Fury, but T'Chaka.

If it's not him, then I think the ones that die are no name SHIELD agents and no named bad guys.

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Who sees race before anything else?
can't tell if that's a joke or not...

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Old 02-13-2014, 11:26 PM   #197
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It's not.

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Old 02-14-2014, 09:59 AM   #198
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Seriously? Sam's post went strait to race discussion when no post before did. ... really not that hard to spot.

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What if.......... Wait for it.....

Coulson ACTUALLY dies. Again.


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They will not however, kill off RDJ before he fulfills the last movie in his hard won new contract.
They "killed off" Spock in only his second movie (TWOK), when he still had plenty of mileage left in the tank. (Hell, he's still doing the current film series.)

I just think that Marvel could milk a "death of Spock" type scene out of RDJ, and have him return in Avengers 3.

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