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Old 03-02-2014, 12:11 PM   #1
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Default Can Illumination Entertainment make a Namor movie?

Similar to this thread, but concerning the Sub-Mariner

The movie rights for Namor are owned by Universal, and while in the past it might have been possible for him to be in the MCU (Iron Man was distributed by Viacom, and Hulk was distributed by Universal), now that Disney has bought Marvel, it's unlikely that that will be the case.

I don't think a Namor film franchise can survive without being a part of the MCU, because he isn't very popular, so they probably won't make a big budgeted live action film. However, Illumination Entertainment's animated films have been successful (as well as animated films in general) so would it be possible for them to make an animated Namor film?

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Old 03-03-2014, 07:13 PM   #2
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I support Marvel just paying cash to get the Sub-Mariner rights back, or not really cooperating with Universal's "development" until the rights finally lapse. I'm a fan of Namor, but I just don't see him being able to spin off into some kind of "Namorverse" series of films (which at this point would be severely handicapped by being cut off from the various characters that are tied into Sony, Fox and Disney.)

On top of that, at the risk of being cynical, I would even see a straight-up Sub-Mariner movie without any kind of character lead-in as being even more risky than the other Marvel Studios films. How much of the film is at sea or underwater? How expensive would it be to portray folks operating in their natural environment? (Do Atlanteans even 'walk' or do they just float? Maybe the producers can consult with the Gravity filmmaker on how they handled those issues.)

Even taking into account the hits, high-concept 'sea epics' have had a mixed record at the modern box office (e.g., WaterWorld, Cutthroat Island). I'd rather see Sub-Mariner be a guest character somewhere first, for a movie or two.

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Old 03-04-2014, 01:39 AM   #3
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He could be introduced as a threat to the Avengers, something incited by Roxxon.
In the end he shows he is actually a good guy, sort of, despite being a douche.

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Universal are never going to make a Namor movie. The character is C-list, at best, and probably none of the general public even know who he is. They have no other superheroes for him to interact with and he's not really strong enough to hold his own franchise. They have more to lose by making a movie than to gain. Betting Marvel will have the rights back within the next 2-3 years.

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Universal are never going to make a Namor movie. The character is C-list, at best, and probably none of the general public even know who he is. They have no other superheroes for him to interact with and he's not really strong enough to hold his own franchise. They have more to lose by making a movie than to gain. Betting Marvel will have the rights back within the next 2-3 years.
Will get killed for saying this but.....rather would see an Aquaman movie instead of Namor

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Well Aquaman is part of the JLA and Namor is part of nothing really. He's just an antagonist of the FF. Namor couldn't support a movie by himself as he has nothing to attach to beyond himself.

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Old 03-12-2014, 03:55 AM   #7
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Universal are never going to make a Namor movie. The character is C-list, at best, and probably none of the general public even know who he is. They have no other superheroes for him to interact with and he's not really strong enough to hold his own franchise. They have more to lose by making a movie than to gain. Betting Marvel will have the rights back within the next 2-3 years.
Your objection that Namor is a "C-list" hero has been said of every one of the heroes that Marvel Studios has made into A-list stars. Given the right script, director and star any one of Marvel's heroes has the potential to become popular. If Marvel had Namor's rights they would be developing a vehicle for him now or at least planning to use him in another franchise.

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Well Aquaman is part of the JLA and Namor is part of nothing really. He's just an antagonist of the FF. Namor couldn't support a movie by himself as he has nothing to attach to beyond himself.
Namor was part of the Defenders for quite a while, along with Doctor Strange, Hawkeye, Hulk and others. He could easily be folded into a team or even featured as a villain/antihero in another franchise. He has a long and fraught history with Captain America, for instance, as well as a more recent war with Black Panther. Namor could even work with/against the Hulk or War Machine. There are many possible ways to use him, if only Marvel had the rights.

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If they could make a Defenders movie they might be able to use him but the original question was could they make one just for him and make it successful to that I have to say no. Outside of the FF he really isn't that well known besides being Marvels Aquaman. As for putting him alongside Cap, in the Cap movie there was no mention of any other types of SPBs other than Cap and the Red Skull and to add him in under war time secrets would be stretching it. They might be able to do it but it's unlikely they will. An animated movie like the Doctor Strange one might work.

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Old 03-12-2014, 10:52 AM   #9
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Your objection that Namor is a "C-list" hero has been said of every one of the heroes that Marvel Studios has made into A-list stars. Given the right script, director and star any one of Marvel's heroes has the potential to become popular. If Marvel had Namor's rights they would be developing a vehicle for him now or at least planning to use him in another franchise.
Sure, he can become an A-lister, but not on his own at Universal. He's not like Spider-Man where you can create a whole cinematic universe around that one character because of 50 years of rich history and popularity... It's Namor. I sound pessimistic but without inclusion in the MCU a Namor movie would be pointless.

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Agreed. A lot of what makes Namor notable is his relationships to various other people in the Marvel universe: the Fantastic Four, Dr Doom, Captain America. Without them, he's just an Aquaman clone ( except for the whole "coming first" thing ).

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I'd love to see what Marvel could do to add him into the universe they've created on film. It's just odd that Universal has the rights and have never heard any indication that they're going to do anything with it.

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Universal are never going to make a Namor movie. The character is C-list, at best, and probably none of the general public even know who he is. They have no other superheroes for him to interact with and he's not really strong enough to hold his own franchise. They have more to lose by making a movie than to gain. Betting Marvel will have the rights back within the next 2-3 years.
I think people are starting to exagerate by rating every new hero into lower than B-List. Let me tell you, that while not exactly an A-List, Namor isn't exactly an unknown. Before i even started reading comics i knew more or less who he wasit's not as if he was a complete shadow.

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Well Aquaman is part of the JLA and Namor is part of nothing really. He's just an antagonist of the FF. Namor couldn't support a movie by himself as he has nothing to attach to beyond himself.
Namor is part of The Defenders, AND The Avengers.

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Your objection that Namor is a "C-list" hero has been said of every one of the heroes that Marvel Studios has made into A-list stars. Given the right script, director and star any one of Marvel's heroes has the potential to become popular. If Marvel had Namor's rights they would be developing a vehicle for him now or at least planning to use him in another franchise.
THANK you! And let's not forget Blade either, whom the general audience had no idea of before his movies came out as well.

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Anything is possible with a good creative team. They will have to re-invent the character. Add brand new characters.
I could see a fish out of water story working(no pun intended). Something like Starman.
Surprised Fox hasn't got the Sub Mariner due to his association with the fantastic four. Is there a chance that there are dual rights, like Fox and Marvel sharing Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch?

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I think people are starting to exagerate by rating every new hero into lower than B-List. Let me tell you, that while not exactly an A-List, Namor isn't exactly an unknown. Before i even started reading comics i knew more or less who he wasit's not as if he was a complete shadow.
Yes. Older comic fans especially know who Namor is. Namor was once a top 5-10 Marvel character, and a lynchpin of the shared Marvel Comics Universe, showing up as a hero and a villain in the pages of Fantastic 4, The Hulk, The Avengers, The Defenders, and his eponymous comic.

He's admittedly been at a low in popularity since the early 90s, but Thor and Captain America were in that boat 10 years ago, and are no starring in $600 M solo films. There's no limit to Namor's potential if he gets back in Marvel Studios hands.

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I don't know much about the character, but with him being something of an outsider to the surface world, you could start the movie with the focus on a supporting character, and show Namor from a third-person perspective. Like how Thor was introduced via Jane Foster, or how parts of Man of Steel were from Lois' perspective.

Skimming the wiki pages suggests Betty Dean as a likely candidate.

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