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Old 08-30-2013, 01:28 AM   #151
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Interesting ideas. I like how Joss subtly alluded to Director of SHIELD in A1, by having Tony march onto the Helicarrier bride and start giving bogus orders as if he was in charge ("Raise the mizzenmast", "That man's playing Galaga",...).

Similar to how IM2 alludes to Tony's being Sec. of Def. "I'm not a joiner, but I'll consider Secretary of Defense, if you ask nice."

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I'm not sure either of those are examples of subtle easter eggs. But if you want to go on thinking that, who am I to stop you?

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The human Ultron thing sounds stupid. Guess some people expect cgi characters like Rocket and Groot to take human forms next year too.

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I am going to make a bold prediction.

So, we know that The Winter Soldier is the Biggest Lead in to the movie. Hell, look at Chris Evans' reaction when told about Ultron, something is up with that, no doubt about it. We know that there is a "shift at the end of the movie"

Iron man 3 ended with "Tony Stark will return" given the chaos of The Winter Soldier, I am going to say at the end of the movie (or beginning of AoU)...

Tony Stark becomes the new director of SHIELD, like in the comics.
Why on earth would Tony Stark become director of SHIELD, when he's (a) never been a member of that organization and (b) despises that organization to its core?

"Director of SHIELD" isn't a political appointment, unlike, say, a Cabinet Secretary. You work your way through the ranks, just like in the military. Comic-book Stark had ties to SHIELD, and a political belief system that made him *want* to become Director. MCU Stark doesn't share those beliefs, at all.

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While I know he was operating with his armor in the comics during his directorship of SHIELD, I think this adds a little more credence to the idea I had about him NOT using the armors in A2 at all. He's shown to have an interesting relationship with Fury in the MCU. I could see that somehow after the fallout of WS plot, Fury himself clearing the path for Tony to take over. If that happens I could totally see Joss and RDJ keeping Tony out of the armor(s) until the finale of, say, A3.
Why would Marvel Studios get rid of their golden goose? Iron Man is their biggest meal ticket, both at the box office and in merchandising. There's no reason to deviate from the plan that's made them billions so far: put Tony in a new suit or three --- or forty --- with each new appearance. Tony says "I am Iron Man" at the end of IM3, and he means it. It's inevitable that he creates a new armor in AoU, and it just makes sense that the events of IM3 point towards that being Extremis Armor/Bleeding Edge. Which opens up the distinct possibility of Iron Man himself literally getting "hacked" and taken over by Ultron in AoU.

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so anyone remember how I said I thought I saw an Ultron easter egg in the first avengers movie a few months ago? Maybe it was legitimate at this point

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so anyone remember how I said I thought I saw an Ultron easter egg in the first avengers movie a few months ago? Maybe it was legitimate at this point
What was the Easter Egg?

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I'm not sure either of those are examples of subtle easter eggs. But if you want to go on thinking that, who am I to stop you?
Subtle may have been a touch strong on my part -- I never meant to imply they were some kind of hidden easter egg or or something -- but they were just brief, passing allusions. As someone who wasn't aware of the in-comic connections on first viewing, they originally slid right by without a second thought.

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Honestly... I just want JARVIS to play into it. He may just be a casualty of Ultron's or something, but I want to see him play into it. Without an Iron Man movie franchise, Tony no longer needs JARVIS to facilitate banter, explain his actions, that's why we hear so little from JARVIS in Avengers, narratively, and even practically, he's not needed. As such, JARVIS is free to die/become Vision, and any number of other things. I hope it's the latter, but I wouldn't dream that the beloved AI will come through a battle with another AI unscathed.

Spader is full of win though. He already sounds like Ultron anyway.

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The human Ultron thing sounds stupid. Guess some people expect cgi characters like Rocket and Groot to take human forms next year too.
Human Ultron? I hadn't heard anything about that.

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Thinking about it, I wouldn't be surprised to see a scene where Ultron infiltrates Stark Tower and verbally squares off a little with JARVIS, until ultimately disabling him and taking over the system-- like Stark's two "sons" meeting. I dunno, seems like something that could happen.
That scene sounds full of win. I'm grinning a bit just reading it.

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Will Coulson be reintroduced, or has Fury reassigned him?

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I imagine he would be re-assigned; bringing him back would undercut the first Avengers film.

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They've already done that. That took away the little impact his death had in the first place, for me.

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Did he get that post out BEFORE the Spader News was released by Marvel?
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What was the Easter Egg?

The scene right before Hill yells "grenade!" she makes an arm jester, and there are computer screens in the backround. When she makes a jester, the screen closest to her hand looks a bit different than the rest of the screens. It had a red background with a grey oval in the center. In the oval, for like, less than a second, there are 3 red dots, where two eyes, and a mouth would be before continuing to be distorted. I thought it was Ultron's face.

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Also worth noting, when Whedon was asked if we'd see Vision, Joss said "there is none of that extra stuff, just Ultron"

yet, this guy seems to prove Vision is in it, despite what Joss has said. Again, I think we shouldn't be taking everything the directors/producers say as 100% face value.

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The scene right before Hill yells "grenade!" she makes an arm jester, and there are computer screens in the backround. When she makes a jester, the screen closest to her hand looks a bit different than the rest of the screens. It had a red background with a grey oval in the center. In the oval, for like, less than a second, there are 3 red dots, where two eyes, and a mouth would be before continuing to be distorted. I thought it was Ultron's face.
holy crap that face is hard to spot

I didn't see anything TBH

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Maybe it was my eyes, but I thought I saw Ultron. Who knows.

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They've already done that. That took away the little impact his death had in the first place, for me.
Exactly. Rather than raise the stakes his inevitable eventual come back will go to show that even relatively minor supporting characters can come back from the dead and that noone is ever in any real danger. At least when this isn't happening both the filmmaker and audience can pretend they are unaware of this fundamental weakness in the freedom of ongoing comic franchise films.

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They've already done that. That took away the little impact his death had in the first place, for me.
I don't see why they can't set it before the events of The Avengers.

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