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Old 09-03-2013, 04:11 AM   #326
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LOL! I hope you won't be disappointed in the film; all that belly-aching sounds painful!

I don't think it's going to be a Loki movie. It will be Thor's story, and Thor's story naturally includes Loki. As a huge fan of MCU Loki, I'm happy to see him represented so much in the marketing, but it surprises me--especially that he got the same amount of Empire covers as Thor. (Not that I'm complaining!) I don't think Loki will have as large a role in the movie as some think/fear.
Yeah, I'm not too worried. It would take a pretty extreme imbalance to make me feel this way, and I agree that they are just harnessing Loki's popularity for to help sell the movie, which fine. And don't get me wrong, I have no problem that he has a substantial role in the movie, because it looks like it makes sense in for the story.

I've been fine with everything so far, from previous films to marketing for this one. I really don't see myself being disappointed in this.

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i wonder what they mean by tweeting to free loki.. is there another trailer in the near future?

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this is a thanks for all those who drove off the Loki Crazies. I thought I was just incredibly lucky that they weren't here. I didn't realize they had been actively ostracized. I don't mind Loki fans. Loki Crazies drive me nucking futs. So, thank you for that

And, I haven't been a Thor fan for long and I can't stand what the Loki Crazies do to Loki. Like the Thorki shippers? *shudder*. I'm respectful of people's ships, whatever floats your boat (no pun intended) but I can't stand that. And it's not because they're both men, that's fine. Whatever. It's that they're BROTHERS!!! Did everyone just conveniently forget that? 'but they aren't really related!' YES THEY ARE! That was the entire point of the first movie, that Loki missed the point that Thor and his family still loved him despite being adopted. A fact Thor tried to remind him of in the Avengers.
Astounding level of tolerance here...

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Astounding level of tolerance here...
Tolerance doesn't need to extend to things that are morally, biologically, and genetically repugnant. Nobody's saying there's anything at all wrong with 'shipping gay fanstories; but 'shipping *incest* fanstories is just flat-out repulsive. Any fangirl/fanboy who gets off on that deserves to be ostracized. And institutionalized.

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Old 09-03-2013, 10:34 AM   #331
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Tolerance doesn't need to extend to things that are morally, biologically, and genetically repugnant. Nobody's saying there's anything at all wrong with 'shipping gay fanstories; but 'shipping *incest* fanstories is just flat-out repulsive. Any fangirl/fanboy who gets off on that deserves to be ostracized. And institutionalized.
Okay, I should have made myself more clear or cropped the quote.
I took offend to the "luckily these fangirls were ostracized here" context, not with the dislike of shipping (which is anybody's own business, even if it involves incest; these are fictional characters after all, they can't get offended by being portrayed as such and they can't spread diseases by incestual breeding since they don't exist).
It leaves a very sour taste in my mouth to read such vitriol amongst people in the same fandom, no matter who they like and for what reason.


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Okay, I should have made myself more clear or cropped the quote.
I took offend to the "luckily these fangirls were ostracized here" context, not with the dislike of shipping (which is anybody's own business, even if it involves incest; these are fictional characters after all, they can't get offended by being portrayed as such and they can't spread diseases by incestual breeding since they don't exist).
It leaves a very sour taste in my mouth to read such vitriol amongst people in the same fandom, no matter who they like and for what reason.

They were not ostracized. One in particular completely took over the entire Thor board, while the other was merely just an enthusiastic fan.

it was clear that no one else wanted to post because of all the posts that were being made. That, and the fact that she was very stubborn with Loki, and blew up the threads daily and refusing to see other's perspectives seemed to "aggravate" some posters, to the point that there were about 3-4 active posters in the Thor threads for a few months, no one else really posted. Occasionally a few would come in, and tell how it was, to which she would get defensive. She didn't really seem to fully understand what is generally accepted as.. forum conduct..if I had to chose a word. She basically just said, too bad, I essentially have every right to do what I want here, and nothing you can do will stop me.. if you will. Eventually she left because she felt she was treated rudely by some posters, which she was. But she brought it on herself. I tried to be a middle man for a while and play from both sides, but it got too out of hand. I don't think she realized, despite no one saying anything, it was clear MULTIPLE posters wanted nothing to do with the Thor boards because of that one poster. She was enthusiastic, but she brought everything onto herself, completely...she was "driven off"

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They were not ostracized. One in particular completely took over the entire Thor board, while the other was merely just an enthusiastic fan.

it was clear that no one else wanted to post because of all the posts that were being made. That, and the fact that she was very stubborn with Loki, and blew up the threads daily and refusing to see other's perspectives seemed to "aggravate" some posters, to the point that there were about 3-4 active posters in the Thor threads for a few months, no one else really posted. Occasionally a few would come in, and tell how it was, to which she would get defensive. She didn't really seem to fully understand what is generally accepted as.. forum conduct..if I had to chose a word. She basically just said, too bad, I essentially have every right to do what I want here, and nothing you can do will stop me.. if you will. Eventually she left because she felt she was treated rudely by some posters, which she was. But she brought it on herself. I tried to be a middle man for a while and play from both sides, but it got too out of hand. I don't think she realized, despite no one saying anything, it was clear MULTIPLE posters wanted nothing to do with the Thor boards because of that one poster. She was enthusiastic, but she brought everything onto herself, completely...she was "driven off"
Okay, I think I know who you talk about and I also saw the problem at the time. And if a poster just doesn't get into the conversation and leave that is fine too. Everything about that is fine.

What actually made me log in and post instead of just lurking was the poster that said they were happy that "these crazy fangirls were shooed away". It is the mindset that some fans are somehow worth less than others that bothers me. :/
Of course there are sometimes "problem users" and the like, but discriminating people for liking a character is.. I dunno, wrong, I think. No matter who that character is, villian, hero, extra that had one line in the movie. Being openly happy that someone left is needlessly mean imo...


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i wonder what they mean by tweeting to free loki.. is there another trailer in the near future?
My guess is, if anything, a movie clip

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Okay, I should have made myself more clear or cropped the quote.
I took offend to the "luckily these fangirls were ostracized here" context, not with the dislike of shipping (which is anybody's own business, even if it involves incest; these are fictional characters after all, they can't get offended by being portrayed as such and they can't spread diseases by incestual breeding since they don't exist).
It leaves a very sour taste in my mouth to read such vitriol amongst people in the same fandom, no matter who they like and for what reason.
Well said, and I agree with you fully.

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Okay, I think I know who you talk about and I also saw the problem at the time. And if a poster just doesn't get into the conversation and leave that is fine too. Everything about that is fine.

What actually made me log in and post instead of just lurking was the poster that said they were happy that "these crazy fangirls were shooed away". It is the mindset that some fans are somehow worth less than others that bothers me. :/
Of course there are sometimes "problem users" and the like, but discriminating people for liking a character is.. I dunno, wrong, I think. No matter who that character is, villian, hero, extra that had one line in the movie. Being openly happy that someone left is needlessly mean imo...
And I agree fully with this as well. I started lurking here about the same time as the "problem poster" and I found her posts generally interesting. She brought a lot to the table and I miss her posts.

I did see that the poster often monopolized threads in her enthusiasm and I could see where that would be frustrating to other posters, but it's also annoying to open up a Thor post and see endless discussions of MOS. It's really up to a moderator, I think, to handle a consistent problem so posters don't have to police each other.

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Okay, I think I know who you talk about and I also saw the problem at the time. And if a poster just doesn't get into the conversation and leave that is fine too. Everything about that is fine.

What actually made me log in and post instead of just lurking was the poster that said they were happy that "these crazy fangirls were shooed away". It is the mindset that some fans are somehow worth less than others that bothers me. :/
Of course there are sometimes "problem users" and the like, but discriminating people for liking a character is.. I dunno, wrong, I think. No matter who that character is, villian, hero, extra that had one line in the movie. Being openly happy that someone left is needlessly mean imo...
That other poster who said that is only a month new. They weren't here, that's just how she took my words, which I didn't explain the situation (the problem at the time, you are referring to) Don't take what Sombra112 said personally, cause she was just referring to what I was talking about, I just wasn't clear about it.

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To get back on topic, Jaqua, what are you looking forward to in The Dark World? As for me, I'm looking forward to everything! How about you, Simi?!

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Okay, I should have made myself more clear or cropped the quote.
I took offend to the "luckily these fangirls were ostracized here" context, not with the dislike of shipping (which is anybody's own business, even if it involves incest; these are fictional characters after all, they can't get offended by being portrayed as such and they can't spread diseases by incestual breeding since they don't exist).
It leaves a very sour taste in my mouth to read such vitriol amongst people in the same fandom, no matter who they like and for what reason.
Sorry what I posted offended you . I didn't mean it to. I don't mind fangirls or just fans in general, I really don't. If there weren't so many fans of a genre we wouldn't get so many good movies. I didn't mean it to be taken that way.

It's just that we bring these characters to life in our minds, that's half the fun. If we didn't, what would be the point of this? Almost every discussion, argument, and theory on here could be settled with a simple 'they don't really exist, so it doesn't matter'. But that would ruin it. We put something of ourselves into these people, even the villains. Seeing them perverted and twisted and ruined in these ways kind of makes me sad. That's all I meant. So sorry

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Sorry what I posted offended you . I didn't mean it to. I don't mind fangirls or just fans in general, I really don't. If there weren't so many fans of a genre we wouldn't get so many good movies. I didn't mean it to be taken that way.

It's just that we bring these characters to life in our minds, that's half the fun. If we didn't, what would be the point of this? Almost every discussion, argument, and theory on here could be settled with a simple 'they don't really exist, so it doesn't matter'. But that would ruin it. We put something of ourselves into these people, even the villains. Seeing them perverted and twisted and ruined in these ways kind of makes me sad. That's all I meant. So sorry
Thank you, my first and foremost concern is that people in a fandom should not fight spitefully.

It's totally fine to have different opinions and all; hell, I see the problem people have with shipping in whatever matter. It's a fandom thing many people enjoy and many others find creepy. Nobody should be forced to like something they don't want.

What bothers me is the generalization against parts of the fandom which for some reason is blooming right now (not just here...). But okay, on with the topic discussion, again, thank you!

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And apparently the FreeLoki thing is for the chance to win a Loki t-shirt signed by Tom:
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To get back on topic, Jaqua, what are you looking forward to in The Dark World? As for me, I'm looking forward to everything! How about you, Simi?!
Asgard. Thor vs Kurse, the most. And if this movie is indeed a lead into a Surtur saga, or if Surtur in fact does have a presence, then my most anticipated aspect would be seeing the seeds to Surtur being planted

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I want to see Kurse in action...and Thor being a boss

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I really want to see Loki take his shirt off...

I'm kidding. I want to see epic fights and magic and powerful weapons and the type of stuff that we grew up loving about comic books - the other-worldliness.

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@jaqua: sorry, I didn't see your post when I posted the last response. Thanks for clearing that up!

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Yeah, back to topic, sorry. I am interested in where the characters will be after this. Especially what Hemsworth said about having what one wanted, but not necessarily wanting it anymore. (and Odins reaction to that, actually)

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Hmmm thats all?! Than everything is o.k. they just pleasing twitter (and US by the way as only US and Canada residents can participate) fangirls. Nothing like Loki only clip or Loki focused trailer.

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It's from Chaos War, Ironstar.
Is it worth the read or is all continually is throw out the window?

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It's an ok story, really. I don't see any problems with continuity, but you're not missing anything, imo.

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Yes, it will be interesting to see how the characters develop in this film; I hope it's very character oriented. I think Hemsworth is fabulous as Thor and want to see more of his personal journey to maturity.

As others mentioned, I too am looking forward to the Kurse smackdowns. I'm actually glad we haven't seen any of that in the previews because I hate seeing everything good beforehand.

. . . and, Cosmic-Pinchy, I won't complain if Loki does take his shirt off! But I'll settle for him taking his boots off (and hitting Thor with them?).

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New standee of malekith on cbm. His face isn't half burned or whatever though. I wonder what's up with them switching his facial look all the time?

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