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Old 09-01-2013, 04:43 PM   #76
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I enjoy Caddyshack 2. It used to come on HBO all the time when I was a kid, so I watched it a lot. It's stupid funny, but funny is funny.

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I have a feeling the first time in live-action played a big role, I'm not gonna pretend like it didn't. I had dreams of swinging around like Spider-Man around the release of the movie and I still do to this day. (a few nights ago in fact )

I was just thinking about the 'Untold Story' tagline a few minutes ago and thought that it was very likely that the parents story would be a central plot point for these new movies so it's just the tip of the iceberg we reached in ASM. I think I still get bugged when I think of Dr. Connors telling Peter to come get the truth about his parents because I want to know what revelations they were planning to reveal. And then now you read that they're dropping Mary-Jane, a major character from the 2nd movie even though they already filmed scenes with her. It just makes me wonder at times if they know what the heck they're doing.
Yea man I have those dreams too. I think it is a little unfair though to say SM1 was more fun simply because it came first. I get what your saying man but we know what Richard Parker did and that people went after his research so he left and tried to cover it up. Dropping MJ is because they felt there was a lot of characters in the film, they said they have learnt their lesson from SM3 as every character has a purpose and isn't just there for your buck (Venom) so dropping MJ shows. I was surprised that they were taking on so many characters as my only real issue with TASM was them leaving out Conner's family so I felt he was kinda bland in some aspects. It's obvious that Webb and the team want to top *SM2 and make the best Spidey yet.
*I personally do not enjoy SM2 as much as TASM and think that it may be the better film but I recognize that most still consider it to be the best.

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Heh, well I'm not on that list. Because I had problems with TDKR the minute I left the theater , I'm very much looking forward to the next vision of Batman but I couldn't trash those movies.


I still love all 3, both of Raimi and Nolan's (and the Iron Man too, actually). Although I do agree, I can't wait for the next interpretation of Batman.

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Spider-Man 2 will probably always be my favourite ever comic book movie.
It's a sliver age Marvel comic put on screen and thusly imbued with this incredible innocence and sense of optimism. And, yeah, some goofy -and entirely inoffensive- humour.
Great Post. That's how i view the Raimi Trilogy.

The Webb movie is an adaption of a modern Peter Parker and Spider-Man. Many people don't like Modern stuff, people call Pete douchy and hispter and other things which to me translates to "I don't like 2012 teenagers and want PP to be like he was when i was a teen".

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I like that the new version didn't require him to catch the guy who killed his uncle to use his powers responsibly

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I was just thinking about the 'Untold Story' tagline a few minutes ago and thought that it was very likely that the parents story would be a central plot point for these new movies so it's just the tip of the iceberg we reached in ASM. I think I still get bugged when I think of Dr. Connors telling Peter to come get the truth about his parents because I want to know what revelations they were planning to reveal. And then now you read that they're dropping Mary-Jane, a major character from the 2nd movie even though they already filmed scenes with her. It just makes me wonder at times if they know what the heck they're doing.
They could see that fanboys would rage if they changed the origin or Pete's powers to something similiar to HULK. I think they cut the scenes out so as not to alientate them

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Richard Parker created the Spiders, he just did not experiment on him as a kid.

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Richard Parker is a tiger, he couldn't experiment on a thing

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That post made me actually laugh

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Old 09-01-2013, 06:34 PM   #85
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That post made me actually laugh
Took me an extra minute or two, but I get it now

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I don't get it.

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Watch "Life of Pi", that film is great

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Richard Parker is a tiger, he couldn't experiment on a thing
I saw him doing quite some experimentation on that skinny kid.

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^Stop explaining jokes!

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I like Sam Worthington and I don't think he's a bad actor

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So in other words, reboot it? I think even if they didn't go back to the origins and did what you said, I'd still call that a reboot. Once you get rid of the director and cast who have been with the franchise for three or more films, it's a reboot. I know First Class is in the continuity of the past films, but that film felt like a reboot too.
Uh, no? A reboot is when you start completely over within the film's universe/story. The characters are the same though the actors are different, but the stuff that happened before is still assumed to happen. This is like saying that every time a new artist takes over a comic book it's a reboot. And prequels =/= reboots?

I mean, it's not always going to match up perfectly due to actors playing characters slightly differently or different portrayals and yadda yadda, but there is a difference from going in a different direction with the characters and starting totally over from the beginning while voiding everything before.

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Spider-Man 2 is also my favorite comic book film.

Why? Because it's simple and effective. It's not burdened with too many sub plots, characters and themes. Alvin Sargent wrote a beautiful screenplay, as it's one of my favorites in film. Raimi absolutely nailed the opposing Spider-Man No More and Doc Ock storylines in one film. The structure is superb where it looks easy. Everything is within a half hour of major turning points but it feels so natural where it doesn't feel underdeveloped. Everything is given the right amount of time.

Raimi also was able to really capture the spirit and tone of the comics while understanding that film is film and you need to tell the story for that format. He also improved upon Doc Ock as a character from the comics. He's actually interesting and tragic figure who isn't just some mad scientist who is full of himself.

Plus, it has a lot of heart. Moments like Peter and Uncle Ben in the car, Aunt May breaking down in front of Peter, and Harry hitting Peter. Real humanly raw and vulnerable moments that we don't see a lot in comic book films.

And until Garfield's Peter becomes likeable and an actual better person when he learns a lesson, then he has a shot of surpassing Maguire. Oh, and Andrew Garfield was more Peter Parker like in Boy A than he was in ASM. At least how I see Peter Parker anyway... which has something to do with Peter being a good person. Maguire captured Peter's inner nobility and earnestness of Peter so damn well. You feel for him. He's not just a character, he's a human being who happens to have these extraordinary powers while you can still identify with him. That is the essence of Peter Parker.

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Great Post. That's how i view the Raimi Trilogy.

The Webb movie is an adaption of a modern Peter Parker and Spider-Man. Many people don't like Modern stuff, people call Pete douchy and hispter and other things which to me translates to "I don't like 2012 teenagers and want PP to be like he was when i was a teen".
Can you translate it to "I don't like teenage Spider-Man, including Spider-Man when he's made to be a grown man acting like a teenager" for my case? Thanks.

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I thought Andrew Garfield made an excellent Peter but the script was atrocious; Peter wasn't funny, Connors wore a wedding ring with no mention of his lost family and Irrfan Khan was wasted in a mediocre role.

The only thing I appreciated was how much Gwen was made into a pseudo-superhero.

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Garfield is perfect for the role: it is a pity the screeenwriters took the worst parts of the Ultimate characterization and cranked up the douche dial to unbearable levels. It is is a sad day when one is rooting for the villain to off the hero...

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Garfield is perfect for the role: it is a pity the screeenwriters took the worst parts of the Ultimate characterization and cranked up the douche dial to unbearable levels. It is is a sad day when one is rooting for the villain to off the hero...
I really hated the ending "But those are the best kind" towards Gwen. I think I remember scoffing at that in the theater. What an a**hole thing to say. While I understand that will eventually make the tragedy of Gwen Stacy even rougher on Peter since his arrogance is probably going to go up but it's such a douche thing to say right after you gave her father your word.

Nothing should have been said in the end with them, maybe a spun web with a rose on it outside her window or he shows up on her fire escape and smiles with her. I think saying it out loud was far worse on him as a person imo.

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I really hated the ending "But those are the best kind" towards Gwen. I think I remember scoffing at that in the theater. What an a**hole thing to say. While I understand that will eventually make the tragedy of Gwen Stacy even rougher on Peter since his arrogance is probably going to go up but it's such a douche thing to say right after you gave her father your word.

Nothing should have been said in the end with them, maybe a spun web with a rose on it outside her window or he shows up on her fire escape and smiles with her. I think saying it out loud was far worse on him as a person imo.
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Agreed,

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Never bought into the argument that Peter was a douche. He was an orphan and an angry one trying to find his way. The only thing I could see why he is a douche is when he breaks the promise. But that is something to explore in the sequel like superman breaking Zod's neck.

Rami Peter is just as much a douche as Webb's Peter. In SM1 he did not tell his Aunt the truth and let her believe that she was responsible for her husband's death. In SM2 he gave up his powers meaning crime went up. Murder,Rape and Theift all went up just because he didn't want to be Spider-Man. He even watched a man get mugged and walked away. I do not think either is a douche but if any of the two is it would actually be Rami Peter.

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I don't think either film Peter was a douche.

Nolan gave film Bane a stronger connection with Bruce than film Joker.

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