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At the expense of being punched a mile in the air too hahaha. Good stuff.
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And Phoenix's failed attempts to confetti him don't make sense unless we assume Jean was somehow holding Phoenix back enough so that Logan's healing factor could keep him going long enough to get to her. Why doesn't it make sense without that assumption? Her confetti effect was instant on everything else. Logan requires a little time to heal, even if it's just a few seconds. This is time her effect would not have given him at all. She could have flayed all the flesh from his bones before he could begin to heal, end of story. But let's go with onscreen examples: One adamantium bullet to his head was enough to knock him out cold. Another few more or less buggered up his memory permanently. What does a bullet have in common with a Hulk punch? Concussive force, with the Hulks having a lot more than any bullet, no matter what it's made of. Bottom line, Hulk hits Logan in the head, his brain is jello. He aint getting up from that in a hurry. And Wolverines cartilage isn't protected. Hulk could rip his head off with ease if he wanted to. Afaik, beheading is still considered a sufficient means of killing the seemingly almighty Wolverine. Quote:
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The only thing that can break his bones, including his head to spinal column , is Adamantium. None of the Avengers powers or weapons can do that. Was also great in Hulk vs Wolverine when he stabbed Banner to unleash the Hulk.
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Lol, you're not going by that Nitro rubbish are you? ....Even Marvel knew they went too far with that one and have back tracked since. If his flesh is toasted from his bones (like it was in the original DOFP story, btw), he is toast.
Jeez, I really did prefer Logan when he was just a tough hard to kill brawler than this nigh immortal hold his own against anyone nonsense. Quote:
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I thought it was known that Hulk smashes puny man.
Iron Man, one of the smartest people ok Marvel Earth would be so stupid that he wouldn't keep his distance from a man with metal claws? He just unibeams Logan's face. Thor God of Asgard would never lose to Wolverine. Ever. Last edited by Crimz; 09-07-2013 at 08:55 PM. |
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It's the movies, not the comics.
Wolverine biological matter grows back very fast, a nuclear bomb fried it away and it came back fast, Phoenix melted it from his bones and it came back almost instantly. The whole point of reducing his healing factor in The Wolverine was so that he could die, as it stands he can't. Thor and Hulk could smash him and smash him and he'd still come back even is he got knocked out he'd wake up and still could fight them. From what the movies have told us Hulk isn't known to be invincible, neither is Thor. They'll age and die and Wolverine could still visit their graves. The only way in which movie Wolverine could be killed is nullifying his healing factor and drowning him or burning or bleeding him to death or chopping his head off with an Adamantium weapon (heling factor or not, he won't come back from that). No Avengers character could do those things. therefore they can't kill him. That's not to say He could kill them, just that they can't kill him. Quote:
Unibeams his face off. it grows back. Unibeams his face off. it grows back. Unibeams his face off. it grows back. Unibeams his face off. it grows back. Unibeams his face off. it grows back. Unibeams his face off. it grows back. Unibeams his face off. it grows back. Iron Man runs out of power, Wolverine skewers him.
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Or as my dad, who grew up in the 1950s/1960s and loved reading comic books, likes to point out...he never thought there would ever be movies like this.
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Yeah, i find it so sad and shameful when people hate on them, especially before they are even made.
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I hated how they treated Edward Norton. I thought he was amazing as Hulk. Way better then the guy they used in the Avengers movie and the ending credits scene in Iron Man 3. Ruffalo? Norton is a way better actor. But thats jmo. I know fanboys think Ruffalo is amazing...but I think Norton was better and it wasnt even close.
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I agree with that!
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Bana was my favourite. He had the quiet, reserved, scientist persona down to a T for me.
It's been a while since i've seen Norton, but from what i remember he didn't fit that role for me. Ruffalo was funny, too funny imo he had a bit of scientist in him.
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I don't know about Hulk, but Thor even in the movies certainly doesn't age in the conventional sense. Dude has legends about him and is worshiped as a god.
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So, movie Asgardians may not be full on immortal (though they did call humans 'mortals') but they do have very long lifespans. Odin himself is likely to be well over 2000 at least. Movie Wolverine was born in the early 1830's, so he is around 180 years old atm, and would be about 190 for DOFP. This film will show he has aged (we know he will be sporting some grey hair at his temples in the future, presumably 2023), so while much slower than a human, he is still ageing, and certainly is not immortal (even in the comics they have aged future versions of him, from the original DOFP comic to 'Old Man Logan'). The idea of Thor growing old, dying and Logan visiting his grave is rather laughable. Assuming neither got killed, Logan's flesh will age, pass on and join the Choir invisible long before Thor's. With the Hulk it's not been specified one way or another in the films (TIH or Avengers). In the books though he is just as long lived as Wolverine, as future story's have aged versions of him still around 100's of years from now (ironically most of these stories will have Thor already killed off...).
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Cyclops would have had a bigger part and so would Rogue if Fox hadn't rushed production so the schedule clashed for the actors. Rothman was a vindictive and greedy man. |
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I blame Singer for signing James too.
Its fine that he wanted to direct Superman, but he knew James's Cyclops was pivotal to Phoenix saga, so he should have respected that not signing him, so James would have been 100% free for X-Men. And lets not forget that he wanted Shawn for Jimmy Olsen too.... so it was all a bit suspicious. Maybe Singer tried his best to stop Fox rushing the movie, so maybe they would have waited for him as a final smart decision. But sadly it didnt work for Singer. Im not sure if his decision was intentional, but Singer should have considered the consequences seriously. Wanting it or not, Singer had some fault in Cyclops role in X3 too. Last edited by Angamb; 09-08-2013 at 07:20 AM. |
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They had no intention of doing the Phoenix saga unless Singer pushed for it. Rothman didn't want Cyclops be pivotal so it's irrelevant that James was on Superman as well. Rothman wasn't doing the Phoenix saga after Singer left and he never liked Cyclops. It was only under Singer he would have ever have gotten the bigger role in X3.
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yes if Fox would have signed him in 2005 to shot it in 2006, since their contract would be the first.
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Did Singer swipe Marsden or did he give him another job after he was written to be killed off early on?
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Writers decided to kill him off because of Superman.
So if Singer wouldnt have signed him, James would have been present during the whole movie, and even in the final battle. Of course he wouldnt be the lead actor, but he would have had a pivotal role and more scenes, thats for sure. |
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