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Old 09-09-2013, 08:00 PM   #351
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I think there is only 2 timelines in this film, basically jackman said its like 3 storys because of how big the story is
I think (this is based on the itchy feeling I got in my buttocks) the majority of the movie is happening in two timelines, with maybe 15-20% at the "middle timeline". This way, we'd both be right and life would be beautiful.

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If Ben Kingsly would have been the real Manadarin that would have been
acceptable.As far as I am concerned that's not Iron Man 3 only sin.

The Wolverine has been only film this year I haven't had issues with.I have
had problems with Star Trek Into Darkness and Man of steel just like I did
Iron Man 3.

You know full well If Fox ever pulled what marvel did with Iron Man 3 people wouldn't let them and me hear the end of it.Disney/MS are treated as crapping gold.
After the Ultron and Mandarin debacle, nope not anymore. Fanboys went apes@*t and are still upset. They will never let it go. Funny enough these "so-called" Mandarin fans only started to appear when the movie was released.

*NOTE: Disney only distributes and helps finance the Marvel movies, they're a parent company but they don't have any imput whatsoever in what MS does. MS is its own studio. Just wanted to clear that out.

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Disney is quicker to type than Marvel Studios though

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After the Ultron and Mandarin debacle, nope not anymore. Fanboys went apes@*t and are still upset. They will never let it go. Funny enough these "so-called" Mandarin fans only started to appear when the movie was released.

*NOTE: Disney only distributes and helps finance the Marvel movies, they're a parent company but they don't have any imput whatsoever in what MS does. MS is its own studio. Just wanted to clear that out.
Disney owns Marvel now.Iknow some want to pretend disney has nothing to do with marvel but distributing.Disney Is probally why Joss Whedon Is doing sequel to avengers and why Robert Downey JR Is doing sequel to avengers.Kevin Feige has history of being cheap.Mickey Rouke almost turned down Iron Man 2 due to poor offer,and almost lost Samuel L jackson due to low offer.He likes having directors he can control.Feige's negative attacks on Edward Norton made me dislike him.Plus Norton looked like more a class act.

Lauren Shueller donnor has never launched into personal attacks on people who have worked on X-Men films.Noone at sony attacked Sam Rami or any of the team behind Spider-man 3.

ABC won't keep Agents of Shield on just because marvel wants It on.If It can't get the numbers of Once Upon a Time It will join other Joss Whedon
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When the day comes when Feige has a disappointment,and yes It will happen
eventully,his job will come In jeapody.

Disney owns Lucasfilm now if episode 7 does less than 300 Million domesticly
Kathleen Kennedy's job could be In jeapody despite being George Lucas' handpicked sucessor for lucasfilm

There are still plenty of people who bash anything Fox does with X-Men.Let's not even discuss the FF.People who want Fox to just turn them over to Disney/MS and think then films would be gold.I am sure they say same with
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What are you new to the internet? People bash everything. Doesn't matter who makes it. Fox is playing make up with fans and doing a damn good job at it. It's gonna take time to wash away the Fox years from 04-09. After FC and TW they are on their way, cause alot of people love the hell out of those. Hardcore fans are not gonna give them an immediate pass after the **** they said and did to AVP, Elektra, X-Men and F4. That's not how it works. Your hatred to Marvel Studios and extreme loyalty to X-Men blinds you from seeing the positives and negatives on both sides. Fox is looking better and better to people right now, but theres always gonna be haters. On both sides.


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Agreed ^^

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The twist worked because it fit within the context and turntable of the film. The Mandarin worked on multiple levels without kicking you in the head with ideas. Simulataniously skewering the post-Nolan audience expectations of "realistic" villains, commenting on the idea of corporate and media created boogeyman in the real world while working as a dark mirror of Stark was clever.

It explored a lot of very complex themes without ever resorting to the type of blatant exposition that beat viewers about the head and shoulders with the writers' intent. At its heart, it was a very well-crafted character piece and a deft dissection of our current media-driven culture disguised in a superhero movie

But fans don't care, all they wanted was a Fu Manchu stereotype villain with Alien/Magic rings in a reality based IM film.
Reading this made me think of X-Men Origins Wolverine. Not that they're similiar but how they handled certain characters, in the opposite of what fans wanted to see.

In that movie, Wade Wilson becoming Weapon XI made sense in the context of the movie. He was selected because Stryker found him the most annoying and of the lot he was "the best soldier" in Strykers words, so he could shut him up and use him as a controlled soldier.

Just as Trevor made sense in the plot of the movie, Weapon XI did too.

The backlash is because of the missed potential of the what could've beens and disrespecting the characters rich histories by turning them into something not even resembling them

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Disney owns Marvel now.Iknow some want to pretend disney has nothing to do with marvel but distributing.Disney Is probally why Joss Whedon Is doing sequel to avengers and why Robert Downey JR Is doing sequel to avengers.Kevin Feige has history of being cheap.Mickey Rouke almost turned down Iron Man 2 due to poor offer,and almost lost Samuel L jackson due to low offer.He likes having directors he can control.Feige's negative attacks on Edward Norton made me dislike him.Plus Norton looked like more a class act.
Yep RDJ getting 50 mil off The Avengers is being cheap alright...

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Noone at sony attacked Sam Rami or any of the team behind Spider-man 3.
Really?? Who forced Sam Raimi to put Venom in Spider Man 3?? oh wait.....

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ABC won't keep Agents of Shield on just because marvel wants It on.If It can't get the numbers of Once Upon a Time It will join other Joss Whedon
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We will see...

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When the day comes when Feige has a disappointment,and yes It will happen eventully,his job will come In jeapody.
Yep, when that day comes, I'll buy you a drink :')

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Disney owns Lucasfilm now if episode 7 does less than 300 Million domesticly Kathleen Kennedy's job could be In jeapody despite being George Lucas' handpicked sucessor for lucasfilm
You seem to underestimate Disney dude. Never under-estimate the mouse.

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There are still plenty of people who bash anything Fox does with X-Men.Let's not even discuss the FF.People who want Fox to just turn them over to Disney/MS and think then films would be gold.I am sure they say same with Spider-man.
Yeah because the FF movies were masterpieces right?


Most people hate on Fox with good reasons.


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I'm looking forward to FF. i like them okay, don't love them or anything and don't need them amongst other characters to enjoy them, be it X-Men or Avengers.

I have reservations, but with FC and TW being top knotch i have faith they're in good hands.

The original Fantastic Four movies are like the Avengers imo. They had colourful costumes & lots of comedy. Perhaps they just came out at the wrong time. I dunno, haven't seem them in a long time. I recall people not liking them because they seemed goofy and too comic booky

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After the Ultron and Mandarin debacle, nope not anymore. Fanboys went apes@*t and are still upset. They will never let it go. Funny enough these "so-called" Mandarin fans only started to appear when the movie was released.

*NOTE: Disney only distributes and helps finance the Marvel movies, they're a parent company but they don't have any imput whatsoever in what MS does. MS is its own studio. Just wanted to clear that out.
Thanks for the laugh.

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I'm looking forward to FF. i like them okay, don't love them or anything and don't need them amongst other characters to enjoy them, be it X-Men or Avengers.

I have reservations, but with FC and TW being top knotch i have faith they're in good hands.

The original Fantastic Four movies are like the Avengers imo. They had colourful costumes & lots of comedy. Perhaps they just came out at the wrong time. I dunno, haven't seem them in a long time. I recall people not liking them because they seemed goofy and too comic booky
The script in the FF movies is definitely weaker than TA was.

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FF is the worst piece of unholy excrement I've seen of all superhero movies. Dialogue is horrible. Every actor sucks, even the ones who usually don't. It's made for very, very young people who don't want to see a coherent movie, just some adequate effects and forced, bad humor. There was no ambition at all. It was treated like the bowl of feces it turned out to be. All of this poorly writted turdfest is directed by the one who shall not be named again, ever, especially after Die Hard 5. Prime example of how not to make these movies. (edit. in my rage I remembered Moore directed FF. Anyway, Tim Story is just as useless)

Avengers on the other hand is better in every possible aspect. You could argue that there are similarities at the core construct, and there probably are, but I can watch that many times even with all of its shortcomings. It is made with ambition and tries to respect not only the characters, but the universe around it and also the viewers.

I have no studio affiliation. If I like a movie, I like it.
(Disney has become a monstrosity though. Gone are the days of innocent, pure and meaningful cartoons. Now it's poor sequels, mind-numbing shows that seem to make every other teenage actress a mess and of course they have to be the daddy company for Marvel, too. hngh. Rant over. As I said, I really liked the Avengers even with all its faults)


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Story, Doom, Galactus and dialogue were a mess. Lot of bad decisions. I thought Johnny Storm, Thing and Surfer were well portrayed for what its worth.

That part where Johnny has the Thing toy cracks me up for some reason haha. Otherwise, love me some Kerry Washington and Alba. Thats pretty much all the film offers to me. I kinda consider it decent as dumb fun, but even then it kinda disappoints. Really not a good movie or comparable to Avengers quality wise in any way.


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Story, Doom, Galactus and dialogue were a mess. Lot of bad decisions. I thought Johnny Storm, Thing and Surfer were well portrayed for what its worth.
I thought Johnny was horrible. That was the reason I thought CA and Avengers would suck, because it made me hate Evans. Not attacking you at all, we all like different stuff, but I'll tell you the scene that made me facepalm and almost punch myself to death.

Johnny was skiing with babes. Some generic MTV rock is playing. He turns into a fireball and melts the snow. A babe comes peeking at the hole. "Wanna come here?" - "ihihihihih"
Rage. RAAAAAAGE. sasdfffffffffffffsaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT

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I really liked Evans as Johnny Storm tbh. He did what he could with the script. Casting was good with him imo. Audience always reacted well to him form what I saw.


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He was abit too cocky for my taste. But his chemistry and relationship with Ben was excellent

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I really liked Evans as Johnny Storm tbh. He did what he could with the script. Casting was good with him imo. Audience always reacted well to him form what I saw.
I sometimes associate horrible script and handling of a character to the actor. I'm a little dick like that sometimes.

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My bad, forgot about that too.



Eh nope. Fans are still upset and arguing about the treatment of the Mandarin.



I suggest you head over to CBM.com or IM3 forums. By the time you get out of there, you'll feel like you've been in a war. Go on, I dare ya



Yes you're absolutely correct.
The twist worked because it fit within the context and turntable of the film. The Mandarin worked on multiple levels without kicking you in the head with ideas. Simulataniously skewering the post-Nolan audience expectations of "realistic" villains, commenting on the idea of corporate and media created boogeyman in the real world while working as a dark mirror of Stark was clever.

It explored a lot of very complex themes without ever resorting to the type of blatant exposition that beat viewers about the head and shoulders with the writers' intent. At its heart, it was a very well-crafted character piece and a deft dissection of our current media-driven culture disguised in a superhero movie

But fans don't care, all they wanted was a Fu Manchu stereotype villain with Alien/Magic rings in a reality based IM film.
Cbm is the smelly armpit of the internet... And full of nothing but b-ing & moaning.... Its a horrible place to view any form of rationality or any real version of opinions.

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I sometimes associate horrible script and handling of a character to the actor.
They could have made some better choices with the character for sure. I just thought it was good casting.

The other thing I liked alot about that franchise was the teaser for ROTSS. Didn't like the first film but showing that chase scene for a teaser got me back to the theatre. Was really stoked to see SS on the screen for the first time. Had so much potential.

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FF is the worst piece of unholy excrement I've seen of all superhero movies. Dialogue is horrible. Every actor sucks, even the ones who usually don't. It's made for very, very young people who don't want to see a coherent movie, just some adequate effects and forced, bad humor. There was no ambition at all. It was treated like the bowl of feces it turned out to be. All of this poorly writted turdfest is directed by the one who shall not be named again, ever, especially after Die Hard 5. Prime example of how not to make these movies. (edit. in my rage I remembered Moore directed FF. Anyway, Tim Story is just as useless)

Avengers on the other hand is better in every possible aspect. You could argue that there are similarities at the core construct, and there probably are, but I can watch that many times even with all of its shortcomings. It is made with ambition and tries to respect not only the characters, but the universe around it and also the viewers.

I have no studio affiliation. If I like a movie, I like it.
(Disney has become a monstrosity though. Gone are the days of innocent, pure and meaningful cartoons. Now it's poor sequels, mind-numbing shows that seem to make every other teenage actress a mess and of course they have to be the daddy company for Marvel, too. hngh. Rant over. As I said, I really liked the Avengers even with all its faults)

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Cbm is the smelly armpit of the internet... And full of nothing but b-ing & moaning.... Its a horrible place to view any form of rationality or any real version of opinions.
I've noticed that. I've seen them calling movies **** before they're even made

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I'd like to add that while I loathed FF to the point I almost urinated myself in half, I'm somewhat looking forward to the reboot. I still remember liking the comics as a kid. There's plenty of potential in that franchise. If the potential is met, or even close, I'll be happy to watch it.

Also, if there's ever a MS/Fox collaboration, there's one thing I'd like to see. Hulk vs. Thing. GIVE ME HULK VS. THING. BETTER YET, GIVE ME HULK VS. THING VS. COLOSSUS. WAIT, ADD JUGGERNAUT IN THERE TOO. GIVE ME EVERYTHING.

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I've noticed that. I've seen them calling movies **** before they're even made
They proclaimed that MOS was going to be the greatest CBM of all time along with TDK and even gross a billion at the Box office beating out IM3. And they said this judging by the trailers and before the movie came out lol xD Of course we all know how that turned out :')

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