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Old 09-03-2013, 05:42 AM   #101
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^ I didn't say it wasn't faithful. Just that it took itself a bit seriously.

I actually don't mind that so much, but it's hard to beat the sheer fun of TA.


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Old 09-03-2013, 05:45 AM   #102
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I hate this weird, self-hating logic that if a comic book movie like Nolan's Batman films tries to be serious and dramatic with heavy themes, then it must mean it's trying NOT to be a comic book movie. Because "comic book" has to inherently mean broad, lightweight pop fare that's always giving a sly wink to its own silliness. I've read plenty of dark, grounded Batman COMICS, and people don't tend to call THEM out for trying not to be comics.

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Old 09-03-2013, 05:45 AM   #103
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my point is this genre has room for all type of tones i would hate if every cbm had the tone of iron man

to pinpoint a comic book movie as avengers/spiderman tone only is doing a disservice to the genre

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To be honest, I never got the complaint during the Nolan days, I don't get it now, with MoS. I must have been sleeping during the day it was decided that CBMs can't take themselves seriously, like countless other movies in other genres do. MoS' problem wasn't that it took itself as seriously as the TDKT, it was that fact PLUS it had nothing to say thematically, unlike the TDKT.

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sorry but that is such an ignorant statement you are narrowing the genre down to one specific style,tone,and experience

not all comic books have the same tone or style so why should the films
Thank you.

I don't know why comic fans insist that comics are all light, colourful, shallow fair, and that anything that strays from that tone is somehow embarrassed to be part of the genre or disrespecting it in some way. It makes them seem oddly out of touch with the format they're so passionate about.

EDIT: This isn't meant as a direct attack on TheFlamingCoco, by the way.

EDIT 2: I'm glad others see it the same way.

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Old 09-03-2013, 06:16 AM   #106
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i think i know why i prefer the darker toned films on a personal level

they seem to be something more than just a comic book movie they usually have something to say and have underlying themes

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Thank you.

I don't know why comic fans insist that comics are all light, colourful, shallow fair, and that anything that strays from that tone is somehow embarrassed to be part of the genre or disrespecting it in some way. It makes them seem oddly out of touch with the format they're so passionate about.

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Yeah. There are more realistic comics out there. I personally don't mean that all comics have to be Avengersesque in tone, but I think more CBM should be wild and OTT the way the Avengers was.

I would hardly say that say, Batman Under The Hood was a lighthearted adaptation, but it was offbeat and fantastical.

To Zack Snyder's credit, I think he did his best at being mythological, bigger than life, and comic bookish with the material he was given.

I liked seeing the Kryptonian bots and seeing various Superman comic poses on the screen.

The real issue is Goyer, who seems to be trying to bring prestige to the genre by trying to avoid comic sensibilities.

"We’re approaching ‘Superman’ as if it weren’t a comic book movie, as if it were real."

And even then, I think Goyer has some great ideas. He just needs to be coupled with a better screenwriter to fully realize them.

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"We’re approaching ‘Superman’ as if it weren’t a comic book movie, as if it were real."
But isn't this what Marvel is doing also. Every change they have made to the characters seems to have been made with the mantra that what happens in comics can't always translate to film.

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That is so unfunny... it's not even funny.

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Personal opinion etc: Avengers was among the more boring films I have seen. I'm sure it doesn't help that I don't care about the characters and want to punch troll-face Renner on the nose, but I found the frothy-light tone, the flat, blandly colourful look of the thing, and the off-the-peg plot to amount to a grindingly dull experience.

It is the kind of thing that is destined to become an in-flight movie forever. Argh.
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It looked flat and bland. It was a cheap tv-esque look.

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Yeah. There are more realistic comics out there. I personally don't mean that all comics have to be Avengersesque in tone, but I think more CBM should be wild and OTT the way the Avengers was.

I would hardly say that say, Batman Under The Hood was a lighthearted adaptation, but it was offbeat and fantastical.

To Zack Snyder's credit, I think he did his best at being mythological, bigger than life, and comic bookish with the material he was given.

I liked seeing the Kryptonian bots and seeing various Superman comic poses on the screen.

The real issue is Goyer, who seems to be trying to bring prestige to the genre by trying to avoid comic sensibilities.

"We’re approaching ‘Superman’ as if it weren’t a comic book movie, as if it were real."

And even then, I think Goyer has some great ideas. He just needs to be coupled with a better screenwriter to fully realize them.
While, like the others, I too have an appreciation for darker toned films and their place in the medium, I do understand what you're trying to convey. Even though I enjoyed much of what Nolan was able to accomplish with his Dark Knight trilogy, I sometimes felt that his primary endeavor was to craft his own unique crime drama (something grounded in reality that would appeal to audiences outside of comic book fandom), and then add modified (sometimes diluted) elements from the actual Batman mythos to the mix. Again, though, I certainly admire Nolan's efforts in rebuilding the franchise from the ground up; I just feel that "realism" shouldn't be the main goal in adapting a comic book for the big (or small) screen. The source material should always come first. Then you can determine how to make it accessible to broad target audiences.

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It looked flat and bland. It was a cheap tv-esque look.
Avengers? Certainly not. Quite the opposite actually.

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Even the real Batman isn't good enough to play Batman in the Batman film. Sounds exactly like every fanboy's mentality around here

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Avengers was shot in a 1.85:1 format. Man of Steel was shot in a 2.35:1 format.

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Avengers? Certainly not. Quite the opposite actually.
It was distractingly bad last time I watched it. Amongst other things.

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So this is the Ben Affleck is Batman thread yeah?

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Now that everyones done flaming over him being cast...no...no its not

Not all Superhero movies have to have an Instagram de saturated filter put over the lense. I am a huge fan of The Avengers look. It followed the rest of the films quite nicely and had a Marvel comic esque feel to it look wise in my opinion.

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Not all Superhero movies have to have an Instagram de saturated filter put over the lense. I am a huge fan of The Avengers look. It followed the rest of the films quite nicely and had a Marvel comic esque feel to it look wise in my opinion.
Nobody is suggesting that. Not a single person. I love colour. I would've loved if MoS were more colourful. I don't like the execution of the colour/lighting in the movie. Where every colour is goosed up in most scenes, and looks digital, flat and tv-ish (the aspect ratio and framing didn't help, though I like many, many shots in it).

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sheild tv series looks more cinematic than avengers
So far.
We have only seen commercials .
and remember most of that is probably from the pilot.
I am sure they wil spend less as time goes on .

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The aspect ratio plays a factor into why The Avenger's doesn't look cinematic, but it comes down to it's director. Whedon is a great writer, but he's a TV guy and his technical directing of film and his cinematic eye is rather bland.

Jurassic Park was shot flat the same reason The Avengers was: due to the height of the Dinosaurs (like Hulk) and JP looks as cinematic as it comes. It's mostly Whedon's eye.

And I love The Avengers. Whedon's a great creative mind, not trying to bash, but he's more of a great creative mind, great writer all wrapped up into an average director.

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While, like the others, I too have an appreciation for darker toned films and their place in the medium, I do understand what you're trying to convey. Even though I enjoyed much of what Nolan was able to accomplish with his Dark Knight trilogy, I sometimes felt that his primary endeavor was to craft his own unique crime drama (something grounded in reality that would appeal to audiences outside of comic book fandom), and then add modified (sometimes diluted) elements from the actual Batman mythos to the mix. Again, though, I certainly admire Nolan's efforts in rebuilding the franchise from the ground up; I just feel that "realism" shouldn't be the main goal in adapting a comic book for the big (or small) screen. The source material should always come first. Then you can determine how to make it accessible to broad target audiences.
Agreed. And sometimes, "diluted" could be called an understatement.

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Didn't realize I stumbled back into The Avengers thread.

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