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Old 10-10-2013, 10:14 AM   #26
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Massee, honestly, makes more sense as Goblin.

And it would seem like more of a waste to have Massee not be the Goblin.

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Massee, honestly, makes more sense as Goblin.

And it would seem like more of a waste to have Massee not be the Goblin.

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And it would seem like more of a waste to have Massee not be the Goblin.
That's precisely what i'd say about Chris Cooper. He's a better known actor, he was in American Beauty even! I like Masse, but let's be realistic here - it makes no sense to cast an Oscar-winning actor in a dud role, instead having a lesser known actor be the REAL villain. I know everyone around here loved the idea of Masse as Goblin, I know I did too - after all, I believe he was our first real guess - but it's like people are being too stubborn than actually using their brains sometimes!

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What's up with Cooper's lack of eyebrows by the way? I'm just curious.

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What's up with Cooper's lack of eyebrows by the way? I'm just curious.
they're recooperating?

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they're recooperating?
That was masseterful

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That's precisely what i'd say about Chris Cooper. He's a better known actor, he was in American Beauty even! I like Masse, but let's be realistic here - it makes no sense to cast an Oscar-winning actor in a dud role, instead having a lesser known actor be the REAL villain. I know everyone around here loved the idea of Masse as Goblin, I know I did too - after all, I believe he was our first real guess - but it's like people are being too stubborn than actually using their brains sometimes!

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But see, there's the Dilemma. As most will tell you, Massee is better for Goblin, and Cooper is better for Norman. And it would be a waste not to have them play either role. Plus, as far as the story goes, it doesn't make sense for either (particularly Cooper) to be Norman/Goblin.

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But see, there's the Dilemma. As most will tell you, Massee is better for Goblin, and Cooper is better for Norman.
Okay, i'm willing to say you have an excellent point and it literally made me do this.

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What villain is second runner-up that Massee can play?

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What villain is second runner-up that Massee can play?
He can play the goblin glider!

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Cooper - Goblin
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Massee - The Gentleman

OR (the somewhat less likely, but imo preferred)

Masse - Goblin
and
Cooper - Chameleon

Either way, I hope they are both involved.

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Cooper - Goblin
and
Massee - The Gentleman

OR (the somewhat less likely, but imo preferred)

Masse - Goblin
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Cooper - Chameleon

Either way, I hope they are both involved.
The latter seems more likely, with The Gentleman/The Big Man being Norman's identity when he's...... not himself,

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Cooper's role could be like Jonathan Pryce's role in the GI JOE films.

Pryce had a dual role playing The President and Zartan in disguise as The President.

In this case, Cooper would be in a dual role as the original/true visage of Norman Osborn (in flashbacks) and Chameleon in disguise as Norman.

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Cooper - Goblin
We know he's Norman, jury is out on him being Goblin. We'll see - they may have him die in TASM2 and then Harry blames Spidey etc

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I wish people would drop it already
There is no logical reason that Masse would be Goblin, it's completely wishful thinking and that's all there is to it.

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I wish people would drop it already
There is no logical reason that Masse would be Goblin, it's completely wishful thinking and that's all there is to it.
I'd argue the same could be said about Khan and Talia Al Ghul. No logical reason they would cast someone as one character and have them end up being someone completely different.

Except here it kind of is logical (at least as logical as those other examples). Massee's character knew about Peter's father. Seemingly very privileged information. He had Norman's hat and he looked quite unwell (at which time we all knew "Norman Osborn was dying.")

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I'd argue the same could be said about Khan and Talia Al Ghul.
Not really - in TASM2 Chris Cooper has been cast as Norman Osborn. What people are arguing here is for an incredibly messy setup where you have one actor cast as the head of Oscorp in flashbacks, while also in present day as an impersonator of said character and suddenly jumping to the conclusion that a completely different actor is playing said character's villainous alter-ego. See what I'm getting at here?

It's like people are suspending logic for wishful thinking

Not to mention, Khan and Talia Al Ghul were very straightforward. The former's identity was a mystery until the audience heard his name being uttered. We simply go from, 'who is this guy' to 'Khan'. The latter is simply Talia Al Ghul pretending to be a wealthy socialite. Nothing anywhere as complicated as what people are trying their hardest to believe here.

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Massee's character knew about Peter's father. Seemingly very privileged information.
As did Ratha, but we don't seem to be jumping to the same conclusions there?


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He had Norman's hat.
How do we know it's Norman's hat? It could be my hat.

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and he looked quite unwell
He was simply a 'man in the shadows'. Stating he 'looked' sick is purely speculation and there's no evidence for it either.

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1) Who is the green goblin (first) going to be? Norman.

2) Will gwen die? Yes, but not in this film.

3) If so, who will kill her? Goblin (Norman)

4) How will gwen die, will it be like in the comics, or completely different? More or less the same, but the major factor will be Spidey thinking he saved her, when he didn't.

5) Who is Felicity Jones playing? Felicia Hardy

6) Who is the man in the shadows? The Gentleman

7) Is Jim Carrey in the movie, and if so, who is he playing? No

8) Who is Colm Feore playing? Head of security at Ravencroft

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It may be wishful thinking, but dammit I wanna see Massee play Osborn.

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It may be wishful thinking, but dammit I wanna see Massee play Osborn.
I just really want to see him in the movie, and i'm so happy that it's true (at least according to some folk around here)

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I just really want to see him in the movie, and i'm so happy that it's true (at least according to some folk around here)
Def agree man, I'm glad he's being kept around.

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the man in the shadows: richard parker? mysterio?...shame on me i always thought it was norman osborn in the end credit scene...now we know it was michael massee who also could play osborn as well but richard cooper is listed as norman. another very important character he has to be then.

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1) Norman Osborn
2) Yes
3) Norman Osborn mutated to the 616 Goblin wearing the Marvel Knights Goblin Outfit
4) Like in the comics at the Bridge that looks like in the comics (don't care if they intendet it to be another bridge an the arist just got it wrong xD)
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6) The Gentleman
7) Hope its a cameo as Kasady
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michael massee is not listed...did he just played norman because they didnt cast richard cooper yet?

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michael massee is not listed...did he just played norman because they didnt cast richard cooper yet?
He was spotted on set, if you dig for the post here - and I mean really dig, you might find it :-)

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