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Old 04-22-2015, 11:40 PM   #1
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So what kind of score do you think BvS needs in order to keep good word of mouth for Justice League and future DC superhero films?

I think minimum goal really has to be 80% or above.

Furious 7 is hanging at 82% after all

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/

Obviously we have seen some good films with bad scores and the same in reverse, this isn't debating whether it can be a good film with bad score.

I think it will matter some in terms of momentum for the DCMU.

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I hope that whatever happens, it doesn't bring about pandemonium here. I naively lurked during the MOS "Tomatoegate" and never want to repeat that experience. If it does well, let us all rejoice in a sane, non-gloaty manner. If it does poorly, let us all step away from the ledge.

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All I hope for is a decent score for everyone's sake. Last time I made an account after being hyped from watching the last youtube trailer of Man of Steel, and I never want to see the meltdown happen again.

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Rotten Tomatoes can pi** off. I could not care less for RT ratings and absolutely hate how much attention people give them.

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Old 04-22-2015, 11:48 PM   #5
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I think it might be a little too early for this thread.

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I think it might be a little too early for this thread.
It will always be too early for this thread, maybe a few months after the film comes out would be a good time for it, that way we've actually seen the film and don't let a number created by a weird-a** system for measuring critic reviews have any impact on the lead up to the film.

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Old 04-22-2015, 11:51 PM   #7
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I hope that whatever happens, it doesn't bring about pandemonium here. I naively lurked during the MOS "Tomatoegate" and never want to repeat that experience. If it does well, let us all rejoice in a sane, non-gloaty manner. If it does poorly, let us all step away from the ledge.
I never knew if MOS legitimately got a low ball score and if there was some bias against Superman/DC, or if it was just the allegiance we have as fans to our favorite superhero (feeling slighted).

It did seem to me that if it were a Marvel film, with everything being the same it would have had a higher score. My gut tells me that. Even Thor: TDW got a better score, and I really truly felt it was inferior to MOS.

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So what kind of score do you think BvS needs in order to keep good word of mouth for Justice League and future DC superhero films?

I think minimum goal really has to be 80% or above.

Furious 7 is hanging at 82% after all

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/

Obviously we have seen some good films with bad scores and the same in reverse, this isn't debating whether it can be a good film with bad score.

I think it will matter some in terms of momentum for the DCMU.
For starters, I don't think Furious 7 deserves anywhere near that score.

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All I hope for is a decent score for everyone's sake. Last time I made an account after being hyped from watching the last youtube trailer of Man of Steel, and I never want to see the meltdown happen again.
Wow, was it really that crazy?

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Wow, was it really that crazy?
It was downright idiotic. People placed way too much importance and attention on RT numbers, literally follwing the percent change every single review caused in the score.

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I think it might be a little too early for this thread.
Not really. I thought about that before making the thread.

It's really questioning whether RT is important and useful as an indicator. It also is questioning what the minimum need is for a score (if you feel RT has merit with momentum at all).

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For starters, I don't think Furious 7 deserves anywhere near that score.
There are people who feel MOS doesn't deserve the 55% it has.

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I never knew if MOS legitimately got a low ball score and if there was some bias against Superman/DC, or if it was just the allegiance we have as fans to our favorite superhero (feeling slighted).

It did seem to me that if it were a Marvel film, with everything being the same it would have had a higher score. My gut tells me that. Even Thor: TDW got a better score, and I really truly felt it was inferior to MOS.
This in and of itself proves how pointless it is.

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This in and of itself proves how pointless it is.
I don't know. There is all that question of "Is it my bias as a DC fan?" or did MOS comparatively get hosed?

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There are people who feel MOS doesn't deserve the 55% it has.
I definitely feel MoS is a better film than Furious 7. I think there really is something to the notion that if a movie is "fun", critics and audiences alike will overlook the blatant flaws.

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I never knew if MOS legitimately got a low ball score and if there was some bias against Superman/DC, or if it was just the allegiance we have as fans to our favorite superhero (feeling slighted).

It did seem to me that if it were a Marvel film, with everything being the same it would have had a higher score. My gut tells me that. Even Thor: TDW got a better score, and I really truly felt it was inferior to MOS.
There has been much debate about this and to be honest, I do feel some bias against DC/Snyder. I find that people expect more from DC post-Nolan. DC movies are generally more ambitious or less safe. They're more like dramas (or they try to be) and sell themselves as deep/meaningful event films. Critics are naturally going to be harder on something like that than a fun ride of a movie that aspires to be little more than that (like Thor:TDW). I suppose the higher you climb, the farther you fall when you slip up.

Also, Synder's films aren't subtle. They're "in your face." He's experienced critic backlash before (thinking about Sucker Punch, which was deserved backlash) and such a history would no doubt raise the ire.

So, I guess I agree with the conspiracy theorists to some extent. But...that's only a small portion of it. I do think the bulk of it is legit criticisms regarding some obvious and important film-making components like script, pacing, character development that Snyder/Goyer just didn't grasp.

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Wow, was it really that crazy?
Yes. Gird thy loins next April, Sir.

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I don't know. There is all that question of "Is it my bias as a DC fan?" or did MOS comparatively get hosed?
Well, prior to MoS, I was definitely not a Superman fan and I acknowledge that it's pretty flawed, so I don't think a bias factors in for me. I just think it's a better movie than it gets credit for.

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Yes. Gird thy loins next April, Sir.
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Yes. Gird thy loins next April, Sir.
I am really dreading the inevitable RT/critics thread. Opinions from people who took too many "critiquing film" classes aren't my cup of tea. If the film doesn't do absolutely fantastically on RT the people here will practically eat each other alive.

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I am really dreading the inevitable RT/critics thread. Opinions from people who took too many "critiquing film" classes aren't my cup of tea. If the film doesn't do absolutely fantastically on RT the people here will practically eat each other alive.
I'm not that fond of critics either. A few of them seem to be more concerned with being funny (or snide) than being fair to the point of obnoxiousness and blatant disrespect of a work. I figure that if someone is going to put their opinion out there as a official review that is counted on a site like RT, they should be polite at least. They can have a opinion and still be respectful.

I'm even less fond of crazy Chicken Little-esque responses to even the more reasonable critics. If such an eventuality comes to pass, I may be absentee for a few days.

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I hope for 80% at least, for once, when it comes to Snyder. Not that rotten score translates well into my own, I like his movies, but it'd be nice to see something like that.

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Superman Returns got a 76%... some food for thought.

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Can I just say Rotten tomatoes is full of crap. No-one should let this site have any influence on their viewing of a movie and forming their own opinion. Watch the movie before reading reviews. If it's a movie you want to see... Go See It... without watching it through someone else's eyes.

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In the age of the internet, I don't think that's a realistic expectation.

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