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Old 11-20-2006, 08:31 PM   #1
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Did Brandon say Bizarro is the villain for Superman Return's sequel?



I hope he looks like this, but with the bright blue, red, and yellow colors like above.

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Old 11-20-2006, 08:35 PM   #2
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He said he was a fan of the character, but didn't say who the villain would be. He also mentioned that a lot of people want Brainiac, so it'll likely end up as that.

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Old 11-20-2006, 09:11 PM   #3
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Lex has the K with Supes blood on it....and Singer said he left hints in SR

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Old 11-21-2006, 09:17 AM   #4
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That would be cool. I'd be happy with Bizarro as long as they don't make him TOO campy. A degree of camp is necessary with the Biz, but if they write him the way Jeph Loeb did in that horrible Superman/Batman arc last year, I'll want to hang myself.

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Old 11-21-2006, 09:37 AM   #5
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All I can tell you for certain is that if Bizarro is in it, he wont be the only new villian. It was reported that they plan to 'cast big' for the new lead villian role.

Bizarro obviously wouldnt require any new casting given Routh would have to play him......so theres obviously some *other* villian as well.

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Old 11-21-2006, 09:43 AM   #6
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Routh wouldn't necessarily have to play Bizzaro? Bizzaro doesn't look exactly like Superman.

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Old 11-21-2006, 09:49 AM   #7
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Essentially Bizzaro de-evolves from first being Superman. So it seems logical that he would go from looking like Routh to mutant Routh.

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Old 11-21-2006, 10:57 AM   #8
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I don't see that going to happen. At least not in the classical way. Bizarro is to much of a Frankenstein's Monster ripoff. Like Metallo doesn't work 'cause people would think "Oh wow, the Terminator!".
It would be a "been there, seen that" situation.

OK, Metallo could at least work as a short-living B villain, created by Brainiac or Lex to distract Supes for a while.

On the other hand, Bizarro might work well if he was created by Mxy, like in the SR game, or if Superman was somehow mentally changed and would act out of character, like in S3. But without a direct Superman vs Superclone confrontation. It'd need to be more like a "multiple personalities" story with Superman going nuts and destroying his reputation. But that would require a strong actor to pull it off, so ... it's not gonna happen, sadly.

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Old 11-21-2006, 11:06 AM   #9
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Who says hes created by Mxy in the SR game? In the Bizarro SR Game Featurette, the creators specify that they are using the origin where Bizarro is an imperfect clone of Superman (the TAS origin pretty much).

Honestly, I think Bizarro would look visually cooler and scarier than Metallo. Metallo (in the comic book form) would look too much like a Terminator ripoff with the half human/ half machine thing going. Essentially Metallo wont be able to affect Superman on a personal level, storywise... in the same way Bizarro would.


And I doubt we have enough material to even judge what Routh is capable of at this point. At least it seems like he takes the time to read the stuff posted on sites like bluetights (including any reservations about his performance in SR), he can take these into account for the sequel. He seems to take this very seriously. I doubt you could get the same effort from any other Supes actor.

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Old 11-21-2006, 11:19 AM   #10
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Who says hes created by Mxy in the SR game? In the Bizarro SR Game Featurette, the creators specify that they are using the origin where Bizarro is an imperfect clone of Superman (the TAS origin pretty much).

Honestly, I think Bizarro would look visually cooler and scarier than Metallo. Metallo (in the comic book form) would look too much like a Terminator ripoff with the half human/ half machine thing going. Essentially Metallo wont be able to affect Superman on a personal level, storywise... in the same way Bizarro would.


And I doubt we have enough material to even judge what Routh is capable of at this point. At least it seems like he takes the time to read the stuff posted on sites like bluetights (including any reservations about his performance in SR), he can take these into account for the sequel. He seems to take this very seriously. I doubt you could get the same effort from any other Supes actor.
I totally agree with the last two paragraphs here, i dont know much about either Metallo or Bizarro, but both seem no more than lackey's and i would prefer Bizarro for that.

Brainiac is the most logical choice for a sequel though, and wasnt it said a while back that the villain would have links to Krypton?

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Old 11-21-2006, 11:27 AM   #11
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I think it's a no brainer that Brainiac is the next villian, excuse the pun.

I would also like to see the Eradicator in there in some capacity.

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Old 11-21-2006, 11:31 AM   #12
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I don't see that going to happen. At least not in the classical way. Bizarro is to much of a Frankenstein's Monster ripoff. Like Metallo doesn't work 'cause people would think "Oh wow, the Terminator!".
It would be a "been there, seen that" situation.

OK, Metallo could at least work as a short-living B villain, created by Brainiac or Lex to distract Supes for a while.

On the other hand, Bizarro might work well if he was created by Mxy, like in the SR game, or if Superman was somehow mentally changed and would act out of character, like in S3. But without a direct Superman vs Superclone confrontation. It'd need to be more like a "multiple personalities" story with Superman going nuts and destroying his reputation. But that would require a strong actor to pull it off, so ... it's not gonna happen, sadly.
Yes they are similar, but they are also different enough to bring something new. Bizarro and Metallo have the potential to be so great to blow audiences away. You just need creative and great writers.

People will complain no matter what, but Bizarro can be done.
I can think of several ways.

The best way is to do him like his classic first appearance, only a duplicate of Superman and evil enough that he will destroy metropolis. Then he fights Superman in a battle that would make Superman II look like Star Wars Episode IV when Master Kenobie fights Darth Vader.




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Old 11-21-2006, 11:33 AM   #13
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If Bizzaro was to be done, I want a serious and deadly Bizzaro. Maybe a very think pale skin almost revealing every curve of his skull. Something dark and sinister, not goofy.

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Old 11-21-2006, 11:40 AM   #14
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Like the Alex Ross version.



Essentially he looks like a zombified corpse.

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Old 11-21-2006, 11:41 AM   #15
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Similar to that, as long as it isnt goofy.

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Old 11-21-2006, 11:44 AM   #16
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Who says hes created by Mxy in the SR game?
The reviews I read so far. If I remember correctly, Mxy gives Supes some freaky aliens to catch and later either changes him into or just creates Bizarro as final opponent. Anyway, Bizarro isn't just an imperfect clone like e.g. in the TAS.

But I guess with Brainiac everything is possbile, so I could live with Metallo or Bizarro as B villains.

As to what Routh can do as an actor. Right, he didn't show much of his skills. So, despite looking like Reeve and making some goofy impressions, there is nothing else to judge him on. He's not exactly known for his work in the independent scene so everything is a big maybe untill he proves us otherwise. I just expect the worst when the main character in a movie doesn't really say or act much.

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Old 11-21-2006, 11:52 AM   #17
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No, not like that. Look at the picture in the first post. He's suppose to look like a copy, an imitation, a duplicate of Superman with his powers. Only with a white chalk face because he is almost a thing, not a dead person.

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I just expect the worst when the main character in a movie doesn't really say or act much.
Well I think that goes hand in hand with a movie that depicts Superman as a loner, isolated from the world beneath him. Superman doesnt seem like the type who talks to himself. If hes alone, I dont imagine he would have alot to say.

Hopefully this will change for the sequel given Superman has found his place again.

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Old 11-21-2006, 12:15 PM   #19
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I certainly hope so. Routh just HAS to make his mark within those movies. He's not like Bale or Maguire who played well written roles in other movies to prove they can act. So far, there's no talk about serious projects for Brandon. Even though I don't see him as Superman, I hope that he can achive something in Hollywood without ending up typecast like so many other actors before.

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Like the Alex Ross version.

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Essentially he looks like a zombified corpse.
I'd say that version would be perfect for a Superman/Batman movie written and directed by Chris Nolan. If the movie wouldn't show the Joker, that zombie Bizarro would be nice. That way, Batman could defeat "Superman" without ruining the real one and dividing the fanbase of the two characters.

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I certainly hope so. Routh just HAS to make his mark within those movies. He's not like Bale or Maguire who played well written roles in other movies to prove they can act. So far, there's no talk about serious projects for Brandon. Even though I don't see him as Superman, I hope that he can achive something in Hollywood without ending up typecast like so many other actors before.
According to BR.com, he's got loads of offers but hasnt decided on anything yet. I think his recent few months have been busy with Superman hype and his engagement.

A recent article said he was interest in giving the World of Warcraft film some thought, I have no idea what that films about.

I think he may be the only Superman actor to not be typecast. There were so many interviews during the SR press where the threat of typecasting was brought up and it seemed like it was a key issue he was aware of. No one in films really gets typecast nowadays anyways.

Despite everything, I wouldnt have any problem with him being typecast for superhero or action hero roles for his career. IMO those are the most fun ones.

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I'd say that version would be perfect for a Superman/Batman movie written and directed by Chris Nolan. If the movie wouldn't show the Joker, that zombie Bizarro would be nice. That way, Batman could defeat "Superman" without ruining the real one and dividing the fanbase of the two characters.
Brandon is cool with a Batman/Superman movie.

Bale is cool with a Batman/Superman movie.

Singer is cool with a Batman/Superman movie.

The DC president says it has to be done and is inevitable.

Chris Nolan doesnt seem to share their views. I don't think he wants any other 'superheroes' (especially of alien origin) in his uber-realistic universe.

When WB does do the Batman/Superman film, I dont think Nolan will be directing it.

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I think it's a no brainer that Brainiac is the next villian, excuse the pun.

I would also like to see the Eradicator in there in some capacity.

I second that motion. I think Wentworth Miller would make an awesome Eradicator. He's got the look for the most part, and the voice. He'd just need to bulk up a bit.

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I thought Eradicator is in the image of Superman? Shouldnt Routh play him then?

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hmmm ... i never really liked bizarro -- none of the stories i've seen him in are that compelling or well-done. then again, may be singer can do something no one else has done yet. i'd prefer braniac or darkseid -- someone with more firepower -- but at the end, it's the acting that delivers, so if they're casting someone BIG for this role, then who knows, bizarro might work.

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