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Old 09-19-2013, 09:36 PM   #326
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I'm looking forward to seeing how big he'll be by the time filming starts.

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Batman being angry and scaring the crap out of criminals is in the comics, so I'm not sure why its a problem when Bale did it.
Because his Batman voice wasn't all that great. He sounded scarier during that Terminator Salvation recording.

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I brought up DD since Kevin Smith said Affleck did it since he assumed Batman on film was dead. So, I assumed that was his Batman voice.

I love Anthony Ruivivar's voice on the show and how much of a douche they make him as Batman. His lines are sometimes unintentionally (I think) hilarious.
Yeah, haha he's kind of a-hole Batman but since it's a young and angry Batman I can kind of forgive it. It annoyed me at first but then grew on me.

As for Affleck, they may have been his Batman voice in 2002, but considering he himself wasn't a fan of how that movie turned out and isn't looking to bring back memories for people, he should work on something new.

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Batman being angry and scaring the crap out of criminals is in the comics, so I'm not sure why its a problem when Bale did it.
But also Batman being more calm and unsettling. And I personally think it happens a lot more

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Yeah, haha he's kind of a-hole Batman but since it's a young and angry Batman I can kind of forgive it. It annoyed me at first but then grew on me.

As for Affleck, they may have been his Batman voice in 2002, but considering he himself wasn't a fan of how that movie turned out and isn't looking to bring back memories for people, he should work on something new.
In the latest episode, the first thing he said to Gordon after stopping some bad guys before the cops came was "You're welcome."

I hope he looks to the animated shows/films to get an idea of what to do and comes up with a voice that best fits his version. I'm positive he won't try to sound like Bale since that was his thing and many jokes were made about it anyway.

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But also Batman being more calm and unsettling. And I personally think it happens a lot more
Something like that would be cool. There's this scene in the comic "Justice" where he interrogates Captain Cold. We don't get to see what he said, but afterwards Cold is sweating a lot. Superman notes that people think Batman was just bluffing of what he'd do, but they forgot he had Wonder Woman's lasso around him to keep him normal.

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But also Batman being more calm and unsettling. And I personally think it happens a lot more
Love this.

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I liked it a lot in BB, but he also didn't scream at everyone like he did in the other movies. It was much more balanced. I wasn't a fan of it in TDK/TDKR, though.
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but also batman being more calm and unsettling. And i personally think it happens a lot more
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I brought up DD since Kevin Smith said Affleck did it since he assumed Batman on film was dead. So, I assumed that was his Batman voice.

I love Anthony Ruivivar's voice on the show and how much of a douche they make him as Batman. His lines are sometimes unintentionally (I think) hilarious.
Hey, Beware the Batman is actually pretty good. I've found that watching it with an open mind allows me to actually enjoy it. Not every show has to be Batman TAS, after all. I especially like how they focus on Batman's brilliance (his genius-level intellect, phenomenal detective skills, etc). Also, Alfred.

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Batman being angry and scaring the crap out of criminals is in the comics, so I'm not sure why its a problem when Bale did it.
Because Bale's bat-voice was terrible in many scenes. And, as some other posters mentioned, at some point any actor and/or character need to change the way to do things or it gets old really quickly.

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Yeah but that's no fact, as I for one LOVE Bale's voice and don't think he sounded terrible. But I do want to hear something different now.

What I loved about the growl was how you would never think it was Bruce Wayne if you were in Gotham experiencing the Bat. It was just such an opposite voice. I love that.

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To me, the voice was like a gag. Effective the first time, but got less so the more it was used.

I think if he used the soft voice in Begins when sneaking up on Gordon with a stapler, and THEN used the raspy growl in key places, it would be more effective.

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The thing that got me was in TDKR when Bane was beating the **** out of him and he was hurt pretty bad, yet he was still doing the voice even though Bane knew it was him.

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There was a series of posts some pages back about Star Trek and other things. Did those get deleted?

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I love Anthony Ruivivar's voice on the show and how much of a douche they make him as Batman. His lines are sometimes unintentionally (I think) hilarious.
By far my favorite Bat-voice.

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Yeah but that's no fact, as I for one LOVE Bale's voice and don't think he sounded terrible. But I do want to hear something different now.

What I loved about the growl was how you would never think it was Bruce Wayne if you were in Gotham experiencing the Bat. It was just such an opposite voice. I love that.
Exactly. I loved the voice. And I find myself hoping Affleck does something similar, purely to piss people off.

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I think if he used the soft voice in Begins when sneaking up on Gordon with a stapler, and THEN used the raspy growl in key places, it would be more effective.
That could have been a good way to go. But I still love the way it was done anyway.

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The thing that got me was in TDKR when Bane was beating the **** out of him and he was hurt pretty bad, yet he was still doing the voice even though Bane knew it was him.
And to Lucius whenever he was Batman. As well as many other characters when he was suited up even if they knew who he was. Hell, he even used it with Rachel when he knocked Dent out and told her to hide. Because in all those instances: He's in Batman mode. He's become that persona. As has happened in the comics often. Look at "Building a Better Batmobile", when Alfred says 'Master Wayne, that certain growl in your voice that you used to have to practice before you went out as Batman... You're doing it all the time, sir.' He told him that Bruce was being lost to The Batman.

Bale doing that was absolutely accurate to the character.

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And to Lucius whenever he was Batman. As well as many other characters when he was suited up even if they knew who he was. Hell, he even used it with Rachel when he knocked Dent out and told her to hide. Because in all those instances: He's in Batman mode. He's become that persona. As has happened in the comics often. Look at "Building a Better Batmobile", when Alfred says 'Master Wayne, that certain growl in your voice that you used to have to practice before you went out as Batman... You're doing it all the time, sir.' He told him that Bruce was being lost to The Batman.

Bale doing that was absolutely accurate to the character.
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Exactly. I loved the voice. And I find myself hoping Affleck does something similar, purely to p*** people off.



That could have been a good way to go. But I still love the way it was done anyway.



And to Lucius whenever he was Batman. As well as many other characters when he was suited up even if they knew who he was. Hell, he even used it with Rachel when he knocked Dent out and told her to hide. Because in all those instances: He's in Batman mode. He's become that persona. As has happened in the comics often. Look at "Building a Better Batmobile", when Alfred says 'Master Wayne, that certain growl in your voice that you used to have to practice before you went out as Batman... You're doing it all the time, sir.' He told him that Bruce was being lost to The Batman.

Bale doing that was absolutely accurate to the character.
Yep. It's the reason why Bruce uses his Batman voice even with Alfred present (TAS). He's spent the better part of his life trying to find an identity. He isn't going to let it go that easily


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Yup. I remember in the first season or two of BTAS, He had two distinct voices - Batman's rough sometimes growly voice, and Bruce Wayne's softer, almost feminine (compared to the Batman) voice. About the second or third season, Conroy used the rougher Bat-voice for both Bats and Bruce, to me indicating that maybe the Batman personality was taking over, and that the softer Bruce voice was the affectation that was fading away. At least, that was the impression I got at the time.

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The big problem with using a similar voice for both persona's is that it makes Batman's identity even easier to figure out than it already is.

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The thing that got me was in TDKR when Bane was beating the **** out of him and he was hurt pretty bad, yet he was still doing the voice even though Bane knew it was him.
Im not sure if you understand the meaning behind the voice. It's a different personality. He becomes a creature, so when he's in Batman mode, he remains in character even if the person knows his identity. It's usually when he's on his way to do something, he keeps it going.

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You cant have the same voice for both personas. You might be able to get away with it in a cartoon where children are the main target audience or any kind of animation because it's already as far-fetched as you can get, so what does it matter. You don't have to ever take it seriously. But that's not the case with live-action.

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And to Lucius whenever he was Batman. As well as many other characters when he was suited up even if they knew who he was. Hell, he even used it with Rachel when he knocked Dent out and told her to hide. Because in all those instances: He's in Batman mode. He's become that persona. As has happened in the comics often. Look at "Building a Better Batmobile", when Alfred says 'Master Wayne, that certain growl in your voice that you used to have to practice before you went out as Batman... You're doing it all the time, sir.' He told him that Bruce was being lost to The Batman.

Bale doing that was absolutely accurate to the character.
Exactly!

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Point blank, I just was never crazy about the voice period. Nothing more, nothing less.

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