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Old 10-13-2013, 05:29 PM   #176
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Well, the IM 3 trailers were really good (even if you didn't like the movie itself, you have to admit that the trailers were really cool). The TDW trailers have been really cool as well. I see no reason why TWS trailer won't be cool as well. I also expect the GOTG trailer to be awesome to.
I loved the movie but Kingsley was so badass in the trailers.

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The Mandarin was badass throughout.

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At NYCC, when asked about when a female-lead movie, Quesada said CATWS.

I already knew she was the female lead, and that her role in particular would perhaps be larger than any female lead to date, but for it to be large enough that the movie qualifies it as her movie as well as Cap's kind of pisses me off.

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Agreed this better be Cap's movie!

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I'm cool with it.

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It's fine. The movie will definitely be about Cap and will revolve around him and how he perceives America today, but Black Widow will get a lot of development and exposure from the movie. Pretty sure it will be almost buddy cop-esque.

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At NYCC, when asked about when a female-lead movie, Quesada said CATWS.

I already knew she was the female lead, and that her role in particular would perhaps be larger than any female lead to date, but for it to be large enough that the movie qualifies it as her movie as well as Cap's kind of pisses me off.
This should be Steve Rogers' movie. Period. And if anyone else were to be considered a co-lead, it should have been Sam Wilson. I'll wait and see what the finished product is like because Quesada tends to talk out of his ass quite a lot (he has that in common with Loeb).

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Old 10-15-2013, 03:38 AM   #185
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Why exactly couldn't Black Widow be a co-lead over Falcon especially since the movie heavily involves the Winter Soldier?

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Why exactly couldn't Black Widow be a co-lead over Falcon especially since the movie heavily involves the Winter Soldier?
I'm trying to understand this as well.

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Count me among those that would rather have Widow as the co-lead than Falcon. She's way more interesting.

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Everything I've seen of the movie's development from day one has seemed to point towards this being not just Cap's movie. Hell, I think it'll turn out to be as much a Nick Fury movie as it is a Black Widow/Captain America movie.

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Why exactly couldn't Black Widow be a co-lead over Falcon especially since the movie heavily involves the Winter Soldier?
Well, neither should be.

Cap shouldn't be a co-lead in his own movie at all.

You'd think no one would have to say it.

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If it was co-lead in the sense of Don Cheadle in IM3 I'd be fine. But Cap is one of my favorite characters the movie should very much be HIS.

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well I thought Cap should be lead of avengers. Marvel is letting Iron Man's success turn him into co-lead or lead of avengers media.

It Is obvious this film Is basicly Cap & Black Widow.

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There shouldn't be ANY lead in the Avengers movies. They're TEAM films and they shouldn't focus on any one member. Whedon did that well in the first film for the most part (Hawkeye kind of got the shaft, but at least he still got to be a badass). If they're not going to give BW her own film (which they should) then this is the next-best option, especially since it involves the Winter Soldier of all people.

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Widow should absolutely play a big role, but it should still be a supporting role. Thor and Iron Man don't have to share their solo films neither should Cap.

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F* that, it's Cap's movie, and Bucky's story

if it turns into another "Black Widow is better than all the boys"-fest, I'll be a saaad panda
Chris Evans needs to stand up for Cap!

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Now I may be wrong entirely, very BIG possibility too...but I've always had the suspicion that MARVEL subtlely down plays Captain America so as to not lose any potential support from those opposed to America. And I mean subtle to the point where they don't stray from who he is or what his character stands for, but they try and deliberately not make him the total focal point. Obviously it's his movie and I may be wrong. Just an observation and something I've pondered on the possibility of based on their take on Cap. throughout the MCU so far. Please don't shoot me....just thinking out loud.


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There shouldn't be ANY lead in the Avengers movies. They're TEAM films and they shouldn't focus on any one member. Whedon did that well in the first film for the most part (Hawkeye kind of got the shaft, but at least he still got to be a badass). If they're not going to give BW her own film (which they should) then this is the next-best option, especially since it involves the Winter Soldier of all people.
It's the next best thing... For her.

If Marvel won't do a Black Widow movie, then that sucks, but giving her half of Cap's movie is a bad move.

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now i may be wrong entirely, very big possibility too...but i've always had the suspicion that marvel subtlely down plays captain america so as to not lose any potential support from those opposed to america. And i mean subtle to the point where they don't stray from who he is or what his character stands for, but they try and deliberately not make him the total focal point. Obviously it's his movie and i may be wrong. Just an observation and something i've pondered on the possibility of based on their take on cap. Throughout the mcu so far. Please don't shoot me....just thinking out loud.

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I just have to laugh. Marvel rep says Widow is lead female (which we already knew), and everybody panics because that must mean it's no longer Cap's film.




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This should be Steve Rogers' movie. Period. And if anyone else were to be considered a co-lead, it should have been Sam Wilson. I'll wait and see what the finished product is like because Quesada tends to talk out of his ass quite a lot (he has that in common with Loeb).
Well now come on, Sam can't be lead female.









He doesn't have a vagina.

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No ones panicking, people are allowed to have reservations about a film. Some people, jeez.

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Well, neither should be.

Cap shouldn't be a co-lead in his own movie at all.

You'd think no one would have to say it.
Usually, if there is a female lead, there is a co-lead. So I don't see the big problem here. It is no different then Peggy, Pepper, Betty, or Jane.

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