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Old 10-13-2013, 03:00 PM   #51
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I think it'd be cool if Lex hired Deadshot and supplied him with experimental ammunition in an attempt to get rid of Superman. Though after the first Arkham Origins trailer I really want Deathstroke, a fight between Batman and Deathstroke would be amazing.

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Old 10-13-2013, 03:01 PM   #52
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I doubt we're gonna get Riddler or Penguin anyway, but I can see why some fans would want them in the film.
Why do you doubt any of them to be in the film?

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More of a chance that they're not than they are.

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Deadshot would be cool too, hopefully he'd look better than that shut on Arrow

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Old 10-13-2013, 03:44 PM   #55
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yeah, not really sure what happened with Deadshot on Arrow, considering what they did with Oliver it's like they held back on him far more than they should've, neither his shooting or his outfit was all that fancy compared to GA's shooting and outfit.

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Old 10-13-2013, 04:49 PM   #56
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Deadshot or Deathstroke would be the only bat-related villains that I would have in this movie. They're both not exclusive to Batman's world so it would work.

But I do think that Deadshot is a bit generic overall. So I would go with Deathstroke, who fits this universe more than say, Nolan's.

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Old 10-13-2013, 04:57 PM   #57
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Riddler is going to be a huge marketing device for WB, so they'll likely hold on to him for a solo movie. This movie is all about batman and superman and that's the straight forward marketing. If Lex is in this, he's not going to be hyped up much. He'll probably be a smaller character who REALLY has a chance to shine in the next Superman flick.

Penguin doesn't fit in this plot, Riddler does, but he wont be used.

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Deadshot or Deathstroke would be the only bat-related villains that I would have in this movie. They're both not exclusive to Batman's world so it would work.

But I do think that Deadshot is a bit generic overall. So I would go with Deathstroke, who fits this universe more than say, Nolan's.
Lady Shiva would be awesome as well.

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Old 10-13-2013, 09:56 PM   #59
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Riddler is going to be a huge marketing device for WB, so they'll likely hold on to him for a solo movie. This movie is all about batman and superman and that's the straight forward marketing. If Lex is in this, he's not going to be hyped up much. He'll probably be a smaller character who REALLY has a chance to shine in the next Superman flick.

Penguin doesn't fit in this plot, Riddler does, but he wont be used.
Which is what I was thinking too. I would suspect that they would save those characters for a solo Affleck Batman film as opposed to a sequel to MOS/ Team up film. I mean ,I could see how Riddler could be used but I just don't think that's the villain Goyer is gonna go for a story with Superman.

Then again, if the past is any indication of the future , he might think outside the box and use a lesser known Batman villain to the GA and bring them to the forefront and do what he did with the Bane. In other words, adjusting his origin to fit the story and maybe making him a more relevant threat to Superman than in the comics.

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Old 10-14-2013, 12:25 AM   #60
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I really want to see Clayface in live action. I kinda think he should be saved for a solo film,but maybe this is the right place for him...

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Old 10-14-2013, 06:38 AM   #61
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Too soon for Joker?

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Old 10-14-2013, 08:22 AM   #62
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I don't think there will be an enemy for Batman. I'm betting that Batman's adversary will be Superman. The plot I'm expecting will have Superman and Batman butting heads for about 2 hours before teaming up to take down Luthor. Maybe a second Superman enemy will be used to draw the both of them out, like a Superman-clone version of Bizarro, but I really don't think they'd shoehorn in Riddler or Deathstroke or whatever.

And yeah, Deathstroke isn't really associated with Batman much at all. Using him as "Batman's enemy" wouldn't make sense. If the idea is that Batman just HAS to have an enemy for himself, they should use one which is more primarily associated with Batman himself. At least that's what I'm hoping... I'd hate to see them blow their wad on Deathstroke now when he should be saved for Teen Titans.

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Let's just hope Snyder realizes that, and hires this man......


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Old 10-14-2013, 10:36 AM   #64
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Penguin doesn't fit in this plot
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Old 10-14-2013, 11:24 AM   #65
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I'd like them to stay away from the BIG NAME Batman villains. That would be too much for this movie. Save them for a Batman film, or maybe even JL. Villains like Deathstroke, or Deashot, or my personal preference Lady Shiva, or even someone like Firefly could work. You could simply have Luthor hire them, that's believable and organically fits them into the story.

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Old 10-14-2013, 11:30 AM   #66
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Keep Joker away from this!

However, I see the Fassbender suggestion...and raise, you

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Old 10-14-2013, 04:29 PM   #67
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Why do you doubt any of them to be in the film?
I doubt it or don't think that they would because I would suspect that if Goyer uses a Batman villain , it would probably be one who could also fit into the Superman world and one that could be a threat to Superman or at least Metropolis.

We're all throwing out preferences or speculating at this point, but nobody here knows who the villain is . That said a lack of knowing who the villain is doesn't prove that the villain/s will or will not be be Riddler or Penguin. Anything is possible , including either a new Goyer created villain or a pure vs film with no other villain but Lex.

He certainly went against fan speculation for who the villains would be in TDKR and MOS , so Goyer could surprise us with who the villain will be , if there's one at all.

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Keep Joker away from this!

However, I see the Fassbender suggestion...and raise, you
What a douchey picture, if I were famous, pictures like this would never be taken of me. He thinks he's cute and goofy

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You're taking that picture way too serious. My opinion, you need to lighten up.

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Gut feeling. It just doesn't make sense to me.

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What a douchey picture, if I were famous, pictures like this would never be taken of me. He thinks he's cute and goofy
Actually, if I was famous id probably let them take as many goofy photos as possible. Too many actors take themselves too seriously in press and try to give off a pretentious attitude like their job is one of the most serious things on the planet. Id be pulling off handstands! Here! Take a photo of that MOTHER F's!

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Yeah that's true, I probably would too.

I was thinking, if Hugo Strange is involved, we'd most likely have two bald villains, that just seems like it'd be a joke.

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Rinko Kikuchi for Lady Shiva AND, Bruce's love interest?

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Not feeling Rinko in the role, but Lady Shiva doubling as Bruce's love interest would certainly be interesting...that's if they just have to have a love interest for Bruce.

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I hadn't though of Rinko, but that's actually an interesting choice.

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Old 10-15-2013, 01:01 AM   #75
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Yeah that's true, I probably would too.

I was thinking, if Hugo Strange is involved, we'd most likely have two bald villains, that just seems like it'd be a joke.
I think Hugo strange could work actually. He hasn't been used in a Batman film, he's one of Batman's early rogues yet he's been given a pretty good modern facelift, he could also fit into a Superman story well as someone who could conceivably work with Lex as opposed to an oddball Batman baddie who Lex would never rely on, he's also got the science background so he could pose at least some threat to Superman assuming he creates a creature for Lex, and he's not so known to the GA that everyone has their idea of what Hugo Strange should be.

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