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Old 10-15-2013, 01:31 AM   #76
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Rinko looks way too sweet for Shiva. And Frodo- yeah I agree Strange would work well with Lex. I think he could fit into the story kind of nicely

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Old 10-15-2013, 04:54 AM   #77
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Come on!
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Old 10-15-2013, 05:50 AM   #78
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Lex + the Joker! Absolutely!

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Nah. The Joker seems like a cool idea, but I'd really like Doomsday and Lex Luthor.

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Old 10-15-2013, 10:18 AM   #80
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Old 10-15-2013, 11:58 AM   #81
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Old 10-15-2013, 12:37 PM   #82
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Seriously Rodrigo I can picture her on Bruce's arm in her bed and fighting him in martial arts.

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Has Shiva ever been a love interest of Bruce's ?

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Old 10-15-2013, 12:40 PM   #84
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Has Shiva ever been a love interest of Bruce's ?

as far as I know he only hooked up with Nocturna Catwoman and Talia..

However Poison Ivy and Lady Shiva inspite of being hinted at have never slept with Batman

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Old 10-15-2013, 01:44 PM   #85
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No, she hasn't. However, this is a movie, so different rules apply. Lois never new that Clark was Superman BEFORE he actually became Superman before either.

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Old 10-15-2013, 02:10 PM   #86
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She was one of the few good things about Pacific "IT'S OKAY THAT IT'S TERRIBLY WRITTEN AND ACTED 'CUZ IT'S FUN!! HARF HARF HARF LOOGIT RON PERLMAN" Rim.

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Old 10-15-2013, 03:40 PM   #87
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Hey!

Yeah, I agree

I didn't know she was an Oscar nominee either.

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No, she hasn't. However, this is a movie, so different rules apply. Lois never new that Clark was Superman BEFORE he actually became Superman before either.

Agreed and I dunno Shiva and Bruce would be awesome

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It could be quite something.

Bruce romancing her and Batman fighting her.
I'd love to see another relationship like between Batman and Catwoman in Batman Returns.
They had no clue about their respective dualities.
I loved the revelation of it.

Even Peter Parker and Norman Osborn in Spider-Man. They were so close, yet fought and nearly killed each other under their masks.

Bruce and Andrea in Mask of the phantasm. I love things like that.

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Old 10-15-2013, 04:51 PM   #90
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If I had to guess.

This movie will be Batman vs Superman, with a 3rd villain being smart enough to take the technologies used to stop Clark from Wayne industries.

Only villain that fits to me is Lex and any others, that fit in through Lex corp.

Joker, Penguin, Riddler, not gonna happen.

This movie will focus on Sups vs Bats and a conclusion with them working together against a common threat, lex corp.

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Old 10-15-2013, 05:20 PM   #91
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It could be quite something.

Bruce romancing her and Batman fighting her.
I'd love to see another relationship like between Batman and Catwoman in Batman Returns.
They had no clue about their respective dualities.
I loved the revelation of it.

Even Peter Parker and Norman Osborn in Spider-Man. They were so close, yet fought and nearly killed each other under their masks.

Bruce and Andrea in Mask of the phantasm. I love things like that.
If it's basically going to be the same as bruce and Andrea's relationship, shouldn't they just use Andrea? Instead of shoehorning in a relationship between Bruce and Shiva. The Phantasm seemed almost as formidable as Shiva.

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Old 10-15-2013, 08:21 PM   #92
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I only support the Sinestro rumor since he is one of my favorite villains. Aside from that I don't see how this rumor could work out in the movie if no GL.

So I'll give my vote to Joker, Lex, and Sinestro as the wild card if they actually made his relevance to the plot awesome.

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Hey!

Yeah, I agree

I didn't know she was an Oscar nominee either.
Not only is she an Oscar nominee, but she's one of only two actors in history to be nominated for an Academy Award while playing a character who had NO dialogue (her character in Babel was a mute).

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If it's basically going to be the same as bruce and Andrea's relationship, shouldn't they just use Andrea? Instead of shoehorning in a relationship between Bruce and Shiva. The Phantasm seemed almost as formidable as Shiva.
A romance between Bruce and Shiva would be fine.
Andrea was more of the anti Batman. She sought revenge on those who killed her father. The context here is, Shiva hired to eliminate Batman by Lex.
I wouldn't be surprised if a role like that was used with Mercy Graves.

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Not only is she an Oscar nominee, but she's one of only two actors in history to be nominated for an Academy Award while playing a character who had NO dialogue (her character in Babel was a mute).
Heck lol

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Rinko looks way too sweet for Shiva. And Frodo- yeah I agree Strange would work well with Lex. I think he could fit into the story kind of nicely


"Say I'm too cute one more time!"

Seriously, though, I think having Shiva as an amoral/villainous love interest feels somehow too familiar.

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She doesn't have to be a love interest. Maybe Lex hires her to kill Batman. I just think that she'd be an interesting villain to use in this film. My idea is this:
Lex (mastermind-gains power by exploiting Zod's actions and stoking fears of superpowered beings/aliens).
Metallo (created by Lex to go after Superman).
Shiva or Deathstroke or Deashot (hired by Lex to kill Batman).

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I dont. It's not about comparing one to another, it's about giving other characters a chance to shine instead of rehashing the same character over and over played by different actors. Joker will always be a movie villain, a staple in Batman universes to come...there's no need to rush him out.
Then by that reasoning, the Superman villain should not be Luthor, either. If the Joker has been overused, then so has he. Luthor has been in, what, 3 or 4 recent Superman movies, the Joker only two.

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Then by that reasoning, the Superman villain should not be Luthor, either. If the Joker has been overused, then so has he. Luthor has been in, what, 3 or 4 recent Superman movies, the Joker only two.
You've got a point there. Superman Returns came out only 2 years before The Dark Knight. But, Superman Returns in general or Kevin Spacey's performance didn't have nearly the same cultural impact that The Dark Knight and Heath Ledger's performance did.

But yeah, Lex has been way more overused in live action than Joker has. Lex was in 3 Reeve era films, Lois & Clark, Smallville, then Superman Returns.


It'd make a lot of sense if they went with Joker and Luthor. Maybe add one more villain that we haven't seen before, and I think you've got a solid film there.

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Seriously, though, I think having Shiva as an amoral/villainous love interest feels somehow too familiar.
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She doesn't have to be a love interest. Maybe Lex hires her to kill Batman. I just think that she'd be an interesting villain to use in this film. My idea is this:
Lex (mastermind-gains power by exploiting Zod's actions and stoking fears of superpowered beings/aliens).
Metallo (created by Lex to go after Superman).
Shiva or Deathstroke or Deashot (hired by Lex to kill Batman).
Yeah. I assumed Bruce was getting a love interest. He still may. I just know they want a female for some action...That literally could be any actress for anything.

But of course, Lex hiring an assassin to off Batman while he deals with Superman, does make sense.

And Rinko looks so cute

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I think the idea of Shiva sleeping with Bruce and trying to kill batman would be interesting

Especially if by two thirds through the film they realize who each other are and are torn might make for some good drama

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