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X-Men: First Class 48 64.86%
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Old 10-15-2013, 12:17 PM   #26
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This is so obvious. X Men. First Class is one of the best superhero movies

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I remember seeing concept art of Cap fighting a Nazi amongst a ongoing WW2 raid.

I really wish Cap 1 was like that

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First Class.

Captain America was just a little too hokey in some spots for my personal tastes. Also, I felt like I still didn't really have any connection to the character like I did after the first Iron Man movie. I had that same problem with Thor as well.

In First Class, I cared about the characters by the end of the movie and was eager to see more of their own personal stories.

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Shaw was also a proto-Magneto, but even more extreme. Magneto wasn't actually trying to wipe out humanity as a whole until the end of X2, and that was because of the abuse that he suffered at the hands of Stryker and Stryker's trying to exterminate all Mutants.
Right.

The main difference I see between Shaw and Magneto (especially how McKellen plays him), is that Magneto seems to regret what he's doing. He doesn't want to kill all of humanity, but he is driven to the point where he feels that he has no other choice if mutants are to survive. Shaw simply views ordinary humans as a blight on the world that needs to be eradicated.

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This is so obvious. X Men. First Class is one of the best superhero movies


It varies between 2nd and 3rd for me.

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Yea, I preferred Cap personally, but could you imagine a saving private Ryan type of cap movie.

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I really wanted a second WW2 Cap movie

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Yeah that would've been so awesome. It was because of the script and the direction, but Chris Evan's portrayal of Cap was campy in CA:TFA. I also hated the USO scene..that took me out of the movie for sure

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I really wanted a second WW2 Cap movie
I don't think we got enough Red Skull. He looked awesome in TFA, but he didn't come across as very formidable of an opponent. I thought Loki was much more well done. It's a shame, Red Skull is such a g in the comics, I think he deserves another film as the main villain.

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A World War 2 movie without the Nazi's just felt like they were dumbing the movie down for kids.

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I wonder if Cap 2 will feature Hydra. There's been nothing of them in the MCU since the 40's

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I agree with this. They really needed a second Captain America movie with him in his original timeline - his whole storyline pre-Avengers felt so rushed. There was no meat to it.

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Captain America. It's set in a better universe. Has a better plot and a great villain.

The only category First Class wins in is it's two main characters (Charles and Erik)

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CA:TFA by a considerable margin. I like XM:FC more or less on the whole. It's the 2nd best Marvel film Fox has made with X2 just barely edging it out but that said it has a TON of problems. I still think it would have been a vastly better film had it been a total reboot. Sure it reaches some serious high points with Eric and Charles and whenever the film rests on them and their story it's pretty great. But the rest drags it down.

CA:TFA is one of the few superhero films that I think is actually a truly great film. It's just so much fun that it gets elevated above the standards for usual comic book/superhero fare. I've seen CATFA about 20+ times and it still never gets old. It's not perfect(virtually no film or TV show is) but any complaints I may have are of the smallest variety. I gave XMFC a 7/10 and CATFA a 9/10.

For the 2011 films I'd put Thor above XMFC as well, just not as high as CATFA. But at least XMFC was way better than GL.

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A World War 2 movie without the Nazi's just felt like they were dumbing the movie down for kids.

We saw a couple of swastikas in there and a few Hitler references. I was satisfied with that, personally. Had those not been in there I would have had a problem with it. But they were discreet with it all and I can understand that. This wasn't a Tarantino film after all.

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I really wanted a second WW2 Cap movie
They left enough room in the narrative that they easily could do that. Maybe if they ever do an Invaders film that would show Cap entirely within the WWII setting again. They just need a good excuse to do one.

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We saw a couple of swastikas in there and a few Hitler references. I was satisfied with that, personally. Had those not been in there I would have had a problem with it. But they were discreet with it all and I can understand that. This wasn't a Tarantino film after all.
To each it's own. First Class gave me actual Nazis and Soviets.

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To each it's own. First Class gave me actual Nazis and Soviets.


It's not the times to disguise true historical elements anymore.

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Actually, there were Nazis in TFA. There were those SS officers that Red Skull killed, and Red Skull himself is an SS officer and wears a Nazi-like uniform (only cooler looking). That being said, FC has Nikita Khrushchev in it, that's just awesome.

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XMFC. Cap was bland.

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Actually, there were Nazis in TFA. There were those SS officers that Red Skull killed, and Red Skull himself is an SS officer and wears a Nazi-like uniform (only cooler looking). That being said, FC has Nikita Khrushchev in it, that's just awesome.
Hydra are Nazis that have split off from Hitler's leadership. Saying Red Skull was not a Nazi is like saying Trotsky wasn't a communist because of his fight with Stalin.

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XMFC. Cap was bland.
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Cap TFA has grown on me a lot since The Avengers came out, before that I found it very average and probably the worst Marvel movie, but it has grown on me a lot and is probably middle ground now.

However, First Class is not only one of the best X-Men movies, its in the top CBM's of all time for me, its a better movie than Cap no doubt, so FC gets my vote.

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CA:TFA by a considerable margin. I like XM:FC more or less on the whole. It's the 2nd best Marvel film Fox has made with X2 just barely edging it out but that said it has a TON of problems. I still think it would have been a vastly better film had it been a total reboot. Sure it reaches some serious high points with Eric and Charles and whenever the film rests on them and their story it's pretty great. But the rest drags it down.

CA:TFA is one of the few superhero films that I think is actually a truly great film. It's just so much fun that it gets elevated above the standards for usual comic book/superhero fare. I've seen CATFA about 20+ times and it still never gets old. It's not perfect(virtually no film or TV show is) but any complaints I may have are of the smallest variety. I gave XMFC a 7/10 and CATFA a 9/10.

For the 2011 films I'd put Thor above XMFC as well, just not as high as CATFA. But at least XMFC was way better than GL.
Then how do you explain criticisms like
-Captain America easily wiping out Red Skull's army
-The weak execution Cap's reaction to Bucky's death
-Predictable story
-Red Skull being a weak villain

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I loved them both, but I'd give XMFC a slight edge.

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