The SuperHeroHype Forums  

Go Back   The SuperHeroHype Forums > Star Wars > Star Wars: The Force Awakens

Closed Thread
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 10-24-2013, 05:09 PM   #301
Solidus
Kylo Ren
 
Solidus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The Dark Side
Posts: 17,721
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

LOL, ya there are some crazies over there. But not here

Like someone said this will be an interesting chapter in Rinzler's Episode VII book

__________________
"There has been an awakening. Have you felt it? The Dark Side......and the Light."

"If you donít care about the characters, nothing matters. No space ship, no explosion, no anything is important if you donít feel something for the people involved."J.J. Abrams (2/5/13)
Solidus is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 05:13 PM   #302
Bim
Side-Kick
 
Bim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 8,912
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solidus View Post
LOL, ya there are some crazies over there. But not here
Speak for yourself, i'm crazy as heck and proud of it!

BTW i bought a t-shirt that you would love: Han Shot First . That was one controversy i never really cared for, but i saw the tshirt and i couldnt help it, too funny.

__________________
ďThere is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.Ē Goethe

If Jack Bauer joined the Rebel Alliance, 24 hours later there would be no Empire :p
Bim is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 05:14 PM   #303
Solidus
Kylo Ren
 
Solidus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The Dark Side
Posts: 17,721
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bim View Post
Speak for yourself, i'm crazy as heck and proud of it!

BTW i bought a t-shirt that you would love: Han Shot First . That was one controversy i never really cared for, but i saw the tshirt and i couldnt help it, too funny.
I'm so proud of you. You are turning to the darkside and you just don't know it.

__________________
"There has been an awakening. Have you felt it? The Dark Side......and the Light."

"If you donít care about the characters, nothing matters. No space ship, no explosion, no anything is important if you donít feel something for the people involved."J.J. Abrams (2/5/13)
Solidus is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 05:15 PM   #304
Soapy
It's happening again...
 
Soapy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 15,872
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

I'm not sure why people always assume the worst when you hear about reshoots and rewrites and things like that. I mean that's what you should want to hear, right? It shows that they saw a problem and they're trying to correct it.

Soapy is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 05:21 PM   #305
Solidus
Kylo Ren
 
Solidus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The Dark Side
Posts: 17,721
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soapy View Post
I'm not sure why people always assume the worst when you hear about reshoots and rewrites and things like that. I mean that's what you should want to hear, right? It shows that they saw a problem and they're trying to correct it.
Agreed. But this is the Internet. lol.

I mean if Disney was okay with this it shows that maybe there was some problems. But we don't know the fullity of it, it may just be re-writes or big re-writes. But that does not mean the film is doomed. Actually with projects/people on board like this I would say it seems better. I mean you read the Rinzler books of the OT being made, there was always stuff going on like this, same with the Indy trilogy. But it always turned out for the better.

__________________
"There has been an awakening. Have you felt it? The Dark Side......and the Light."

"If you donít care about the characters, nothing matters. No space ship, no explosion, no anything is important if you donít feel something for the people involved."J.J. Abrams (2/5/13)
Solidus is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 05:23 PM   #306
Bim
Side-Kick
 
Bim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 8,912
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solidus View Post
I'm so proud of you. You are turning to the darkside and you just don't know it.

Never!

__________________
ďThere is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.Ē Goethe

If Jack Bauer joined the Rebel Alliance, 24 hours later there would be no Empire :p
Bim is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 05:25 PM   #307
747
Fanboy rivalry? Yawn.
 
747's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Sweden
Posts: 4,097
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

This is my new favorite place for discussing all things Star Wars for sure. Not too sprawling, not too big; not hateful, not trollish. Mostly pleasant and reasonable.

747 is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 05:27 PM   #308
Solidus
Kylo Ren
 
Solidus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The Dark Side
Posts: 17,721
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bim View Post

Never!
I can get a new robot hand if you cut mine off. So

Someone made another good point people in here should read all three of Rinzler's making of the OT books. Especially with ESB and ROTJ, it shows how amazing Kasdan is, and how working with others he really brings out the best in them.

__________________
"There has been an awakening. Have you felt it? The Dark Side......and the Light."

"If you donít care about the characters, nothing matters. No space ship, no explosion, no anything is important if you donít feel something for the people involved."J.J. Abrams (2/5/13)
Solidus is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 05:29 PM   #309
gohei_
Infected by Pentapox
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Sweden
Posts: 3,468
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bim View Post
Speak for yourself, i'm crazy as heck and proud of it!

BTW i bought a t-shirt that you would love: Han Shot First . That was one controversy i never really cared for, but i saw the tshirt and i couldnt help it, too funny.
Years ago I saw a photo of George Lucas wearing a shirt like that

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erzengel View Post
I ask her during dinner, what's her top 3 favorite movies. If she doesn't list Star Wars as at least #2. I excuse myself to the bathroom and crawl out the window. :up:
gohei_ is online now  
Old 10-24-2013, 05:30 PM   #310
Bim
Side-Kick
 
Bim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 8,912
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

Quote:
Originally Posted by Solidus View Post
I can get a new robot hand if you cut mine off. So

Someone made another good point people in here should read all three of Rinzler's making of the OT books. Especially with ESB and ROTJ, it shows how amazing Kasdan is, and how working with others he really brings out the best in them.
Who says i'm gonna cut your hand

Speaking of the Making of the OT books, did anyone here get the e-book versions? I hear there's tons of cool videos and more rare pics in those, but i'm wondering how worth it is it to get them again, because i have the physical versions...

Quote:
Originally Posted by gohei_ View Post
Years ago I saw a photo of George Lucas wearing a shirt like that
Mine looks more like this one:

__________________
ďThere is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.Ē Goethe

If Jack Bauer joined the Rebel Alliance, 24 hours later there would be no Empire :p

Last edited by Bim; 10-24-2013 at 05:34 PM.
Bim is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 05:36 PM   #311
Solidus
Kylo Ren
 
Solidus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The Dark Side
Posts: 17,721
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

I want.

__________________
"There has been an awakening. Have you felt it? The Dark Side......and the Light."

"If you donít care about the characters, nothing matters. No space ship, no explosion, no anything is important if you donít feel something for the people involved."J.J. Abrams (2/5/13)
Solidus is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 05:37 PM   #312
gohei_
Infected by Pentapox
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Sweden
Posts: 3,468
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

That's cool

__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Erzengel View Post
I ask her during dinner, what's her top 3 favorite movies. If she doesn't list Star Wars as at least #2. I excuse myself to the bathroom and crawl out the window. :up:
gohei_ is online now  
Old 10-24-2013, 05:50 PM   #313
X Knight
Straight Edge Knight
 
X Knight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 26,925
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

we were all anxious for news, then we get this........lol

I still hope we get a female lead.

__________________
Straight Edge and Proud!!

Disney Lover and Proud!!
X Knight is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 05:53 PM   #314
MagnarTheGreat
Side-Kick
 
MagnarTheGreat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 5,730
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

Wonder if Arndt will get the writer/screenplay credit when it's all done. I guess that tell how much they changed.

MagnarTheGreat is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 06:01 PM   #315
Spider-Gnome
The Arach-Gnome
 
Spider-Gnome's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,814
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

VIDEO-CLick to Watch!:


Well, you guys wanted news...


Seriously, Kasdan's involved, and I'm sure he has a grip on the SW Universe right now. He was probably privy to what Lucas wanted Episodes VII - IX back in the 70's/80's.

__________________
... and get off my lawn!!!


The Spectacular Spider-Man:
The BEST adaptation of the Spider-Man comics in any form

BRING BACK SPIDEY!!!!
Marvel OR Bust!!!!
Spider-Gnome is online now  
Old 10-24-2013, 06:17 PM   #316
BatLobsterRises
Lobsterized
 
BatLobsterRises's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: NJ
Posts: 7,467
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

IF the speculation is true and the new version won't even feature the same characters as Arndt's screenplay, it will beg the question of which version is more faithful to Lucas' outline. Seeing as Abrams has been in close contact with Lucas, I have to imagine that this is a decision that George is behind too.

Still, it's interesting to know that the story is still an evolving thing. Not good or bad just interesting. I figured by now they were close to a locked shooting script.

__________________
IMAGINE THE FIRE
My TDKR Metal cover
My MOS Trailer 3 score recreation
My take on why there is no "DC Films" Division at WB:
http://forums.superherohype.com/show...&postcount=158
BatLobsterRises is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 06:27 PM   #317
X Knight
Straight Edge Knight
 
X Knight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 26,925
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

and the article said that casting is underway now.

so, I'm sure they've had some story/character stuff set in stone for some time now.

__________________
Straight Edge and Proud!!

Disney Lover and Proud!!
X Knight is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 06:30 PM   #318
I SEE SPIDEY
HYPE AWARD WINNER!
 
I SEE SPIDEY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: In Superman's arms
Posts: 36,545
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

I wouldn't worry about re-writes as every film has them.

__________________
Come think with us:http://thinkmcflythink.squarespace.com/

2014 IS THE YEAR DC/WB DECIDED TO GET SERIOUS.
I SEE SPIDEY is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 06:32 PM   #319
Solidus
Kylo Ren
 
Solidus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The Dark Side
Posts: 17,721
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

Quote:
Originally Posted by I SEE SPIDEY View Post
I wouldn't worry about re-writes as every film has them.
This. Truth.

__________________
"There has been an awakening. Have you felt it? The Dark Side......and the Light."

"If you donít care about the characters, nothing matters. No space ship, no explosion, no anything is important if you donít feel something for the people involved."J.J. Abrams (2/5/13)
Solidus is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 06:46 PM   #320
X Knight
Straight Edge Knight
 
X Knight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 26,925
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

maybe it's that other guy's article, who said this wasn't just a rewrite, but a complete do over.

that's what has got me worried.

but again, it depends on when this happened. the announcement today kind of makes it sound like the change is happening right now. but that other article seems to say this happened back in June/July.

if that's the case.....this is kind of old news........

__________________
Straight Edge and Proud!!

Disney Lover and Proud!!
X Knight is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 06:53 PM   #321
Solidus
Kylo Ren
 
Solidus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The Dark Side
Posts: 17,721
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

Quote:
Originally Posted by RavenX View Post
maybe it's that other guy's article, who said this wasn't just a rewrite, but a complete do over.

that's what has got me worried.

but again, it depends on when this happened. the announcement today kind of makes it sound like the change is happening right now. but that other article seems to say this happened back in June/July.

if that's the case.....this is kind of old news........
Well a few things. That is not necessarily a bad thing. They said in that article that that was almost 4 months ago. I doubt it is, but we will have no idea what bugged them about it. Regardless of which way Disney is not going to let someone get rid of a "good script" that can be done on time for fun. They had a reason to agree with JJ and say do what you gotta do even if that means delays. Big corporations don't do that kind of stuff for the heck of it. It is maybe old news. So I don't think there is any worry. Technically most reports were saying that filming was going to start February 23rd of next year. Now it may be delayed a month or so, but nothing major. That and there was no firm confirmation of the filming, if you look back it always said "early 2014".

__________________
"There has been an awakening. Have you felt it? The Dark Side......and the Light."

"If you donít care about the characters, nothing matters. No space ship, no explosion, no anything is important if you donít feel something for the people involved."J.J. Abrams (2/5/13)
Solidus is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 06:57 PM   #322
Solidus
Kylo Ren
 
Solidus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The Dark Side
Posts: 17,721
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

Quote:
Honestly, this may be the least surprising story we'll run all month.

I have no doubt Michael Arndt's work will be the spine of "Star Wars Episode VII" when we finally see the film, but from day one, it sounds like there's been a larger brain trust involved, a group of writers who have all had some sort of active hand in the process. At this point, Arndt's been on the film for a while, and they've got to be getting close to putting everything in front of the camera. I would be shocked, frankly, if JJ Abrams didn't do at least one pass at the script just so he's comfortable that the final version is something that represents his voice.

Of course, there's a larger master to serve here, and that's where Lawrence Kasdan comes in. Abrams has spoken in print about trying to recapture the intangible essence of "Star Wars," and if there's anybody whose name is not "George Lucas" who is qualified to decide what is or isn't "Star Wars," it's Kasdan. His voice helped define "The Empire Strikes Back" in a fairly significant way, and having him in the mix has been the thing that has had me most excited about these new films so far.

There has been some talk, hard to substantiate, that there was a fairly major internal divide over some big story points, and this would seem to indicate that Abrams has won whatever struggle there was about the direction these stories are heading. Considering how quiet things have been on the "Star Wars" front in terms of actual concrete news and not just speculation, fans have started to worry. If you've been reading press release language as long as I have, the following paragraph is positively laden with subtext:

"I am very excited about the story we have in place and thrilled to have Larry and J.J. working on the script," states Lucasfilm President Kathleen Kennedy. "There are very few people who fundamentally understand the way a Star Wars story works like Larry, and it is nothing short of incredible to have him even more deeply involved in its return to the big screen. J.J. of course is an incredible storyteller in his own right. Michael Arndt has done a terrific job bringing us to this point and we have an amazing filmmaking and design team in place already prepping for production."

What she's really saying is, "Okay, enough debate. We've picked which direction we're going with the story, and it's the JJ direction. He's on the film, Arndt is off. Lawrence Kadan's been here from the start, but we should remind you, he is in fact The Man. And don't worry… everyone else is already deep into pre-production, so we're going to make our date or die trying."

I'm sure we'll see all sorts of reactions today. Indignation, anxiety, accusations about ego… and the truth is, until the film opens, none of this is possible to judge from the outside. No one's read the script outside the production. No one really knows what debates they're having or why. I would argue the pressure on these filmmakers is exponentially worse than it was on George Lucas when he made "The Phantom Menace." While that was a major cultural moment of anticipation, he was facing nothing but goodwill while he was working. People were excited. Everyone wanted to believe that new "Star Wars" films were going to be awesome.

Abrams faces a much more cynical landscape. He is, to put it lightly, a polarizing figure at this point, and he is making the first after the prequels, which basically shredded "Star Wars" fandom into a million different factions. People are skeptical of "Star Wars" now, and that's always a harder thing to face as a director. You're starting out with an audience that is suspicious of you and your product. There are going to be a lot of people sitting down in theaters, arms folded, saying "Prove it."

Whatever they put in the front of the camera, Abrams has to get it to a place where he feels confident about it. He's the guy who is ultimately charged with getting it right, and who can blame him if he's insisting on as much authorial control as possible. It's the only real weapon he has in fighting all that cynicism.

According to StarWars.com, where the news broke today, "Shooting is scheduled to begin Spring 2014 at Pinewood Studios for an expected 2015 release." This train's leaving the station, and it is clear that at least as of today, JJ Abrams is the main hand on the controls.
Read more at http://www.hitfix.com/motion-capture...ZZPf88xvfsJ.99
http://www.hitfix.com/motion-capture...ate-approaches

I just wanted to repost this. Good article and probably the most level headed one.

__________________
"There has been an awakening. Have you felt it? The Dark Side......and the Light."

"If you donít care about the characters, nothing matters. No space ship, no explosion, no anything is important if you donít feel something for the people involved."J.J. Abrams (2/5/13)
Solidus is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 06:58 PM   #323
X Knight
Straight Edge Knight
 
X Knight's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 26,925
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

I guess.......I just want to hear concrete news of the story and characters.

like a basic outline.

__________________
Straight Edge and Proud!!

Disney Lover and Proud!!
X Knight is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 07:00 PM   #324
Solidus
Kylo Ren
 
Solidus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: The Dark Side
Posts: 17,721
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

Quote:
Originally Posted by RavenX View Post
I guess.......I just want to hear concrete news of the story and characters.

like a basic outline.
LOL ya most films never do that. So you probably wont' get that.

__________________
"There has been an awakening. Have you felt it? The Dark Side......and the Light."

"If you donít care about the characters, nothing matters. No space ship, no explosion, no anything is important if you donít feel something for the people involved."J.J. Abrams (2/5/13)
Solidus is offline  
Old 10-24-2013, 07:03 PM   #325
Bim
Side-Kick
 
Bim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 8,912
Default Re: General Star Wars Episode VII News/Speculation Thread - Part 6

Quote:
Originally Posted by RavenX View Post
I guess.......I just want to hear concrete news of the story and characters.

like a basic outline.
A friggin' title and exact release day are the things i want to know right now. I can wait for the cast announcement and more info about the plot, no problem.

__________________
ďThere is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.Ē Goethe

If Jack Bauer joined the Rebel Alliance, 24 hours later there would be no Empire :p
Bim is offline  
Closed Thread

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:09 AM.

monitoring_string = "dee460792f24517621e3ca080805de7e"
Contact Us - Mobile - SuperHeroHype - ComingSoon.net - Shock Till You Drop - Lost Password - Clear Cookies - Archive - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Top - AdChoices


Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SuperHeroHype.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2014 All Rights Reserved.