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Old 06-16-2013, 11:32 PM   #1
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Default Is there gonna be fortress of solitud in mos2?

when supes destroys the ship... do you think the key could make smth or superman is gonna build one in the artic?

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Old 06-16-2013, 11:38 PM   #2
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It's gone. That's why that scene was so important with him flying away from Jor-El, in a sense, he was saying goodbye to his roots metaphorically.

If they went against that, to me, it would need to really be there such as Agent Coulson's death so it isn't disrupted in what happens in the first film.

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Old 06-16-2013, 11:42 PM   #3
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It's gone. That's why that scene was so important with him flying away from Jor-El, in a sense, he was saying goodbye to his roots metaphorically.

If they went against that, to me, it would need to really be there such as Agent Coulson's death so it isn't disrupted in what happens in the first film.
Nothing is truly gone in comics.....it's alien tech.....nanotech at that....self-regenerating.

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Old 06-16-2013, 11:45 PM   #4
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This isn't a comic.

I think Snyder is trying to really put some focus on Superman being THE last son of Krypton(and should be the title of the sequel) by taking away all connection to Krypton as well, including a Fortress of Solitude by having it destroyed.

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Old 06-16-2013, 11:46 PM   #5
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Nothing is truly gone in comics.....it's alien tech.....nanotech at that....self-regenerating.
To me, especially here, it's that aspect of just because you can do it doesn't mean you should do it and if you do it - for some things, I'd count this as one of them - you really have to have a good reason and explanation to.

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i thought the ship was damaged but not totally destroyed.

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Old 06-16-2013, 11:53 PM   #7
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but what do you think... should superman build it or no fortress in the sequel

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It wasn't a Fortress of Solitude in the first place.

It was a ship.

He never used it as a fortress, or for solitude.

I don't think we've seen the Fortress yet. Not the real one, at least.

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I would like to see a more old school Arctic ice cavern FOS. A place where he takes the left over alien tech and wreckage from the Metropolis battle and what's left to be salvaged from the World Engine in the Indian Ocean. Make it a place not made by Kryptonian tech for Superman but made by Superman as a place for Kryptonian tech. At least that's the what it starts out as.

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It wasn't a Fortress of Solitude in the first place.

It was a ship.

He never used it as a fortress, or for solitude.

I don't think we've seen the Fortress yet. Not the real one, at least.
No, that was the Fortress, Snyder went on record saying it was.

Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that there can't be a new one in the sequel. They can always go the classic route and have him build it in the side of a mountain in the Arctic.


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Old 06-17-2013, 12:04 AM   #11
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It wasn't a Fortress of Solitude in the first place.

It was a ship.

He never used it as a fortress, or for solitude.

I don't think we've seen the Fortress yet. Not the real one, at least.
Great point

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Perhaps Superman is not the sole survivor. Not sure if this has been brought up but does anyone find it odd that the FoS ship had a sleeping chamber that was empty? One had a skeleton and the other looked like someone had awaken and left.

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I would like to see a more old school Arctic ice cavern FOS. A place where he takes the left over alien tech and wreckage from the Metropolis battle and what's left to be salvaged from the World Engine in the Indian Ocean. Make it a place not made by Kryptonian tech for Superman but made by Superman as a place for Kryptonian tech. At least that's the what it starts out as.
more loose ends that needed to be tied up......

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I'd imagine we'll see it in the next film, in the meantime he'll have to make do with the 'Shed of Loneliness' in the backyard.

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It wasn't a Fortress of Solitude in the first place.

It was a ship.

He never used it as a fortress, or for solitude.

I don't think we've seen the Fortress yet. Not the real one, at least.
It could be a symbolic Fortress of Solitude. Either way it looks like by the end of the movie Superman had found another place to hang his cape.

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If the Krypton tech plays a role in the sequel I hope that a throw away line explains that he did collect/confiscated it. Hopefully in a FOS like I stated before. It's not a biggie to me that it was not addressed in MOS.

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Perhaps Superman is not the sole survivor. Not sure if this has been brought up but does anyone find it odd that the FoS ship had a sleeping chamber that was empty? One had a skeleton and the other looked like someone had awaken and left.
Prequel comic covered that. It was Supergirl, who was part of a team that was terraforming a new world. A murderous stowaway commandeered the ship. They fought...she stabbed him with what looked like red kryptonite...and then one of them (it didn't show which) walked out after the crash. It also showed an Eskimo family that had the S symbol painted on their little hut or whatever they are called...so at some point they either met a living Supergirl, or at least found her body or something.

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Shed of Loneliness? How about an Alcove of Singlehood?

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It could be a symbolic Fortress of Solitude. Either way it looks like by the end of the movie Superman had found another place to hang his cape.
It was meant to be the Fortress for the movie.
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Instead of building his own Fortress, Clark Kent steps into the existing home market ó and emerges as Superman. The residents of Krypton are an advanced race, keep in mind. Their knowledge and exploration of the cosmos far surpasses our own, and when Jor-El launches his son to Earth, our planet isnít unknown to them. It is a massive craft left behind by a previous group of Kryptonian pioneers.

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It still doesn't mean we can't see a new Fortress (in the old style, not Donner styled) in an MOS sequel. Of course that's not a deal breaker for me.

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That's what I said above.

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Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that there can't be a new one in the sequel. They can always go the classic route and have him build it in the side of a mountain in the Arctic.
I'm just reiterating that Snyder et al, meant for the ship to be the Fortress in the movie.

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I would like to see a more old school Arctic ice cavern FOS. A place where he takes the left over alien tech and wreckage from the Metropolis battle and what's left to be salvaged from the World Engine in the Indian Ocean. Make it a place not made by Kryptonian tech for Superman but made by Superman as a place for Kryptonian tech. At least that's the what it starts out as.
i like the idea.

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Where else would he go?

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Prequel comic covered that. It was Supergirl, who was part of a team that was terraforming a new world. A murderous stowaway commandeered the ship. They fought...she stabbed him with what looked like red kryptonite...and then one of them (it didn't show which) walked out after the crash. It also showed an Eskimo family that had the S symbol painted on their little hut or whatever they are called...so at some point they either met a living Supergirl, or at least found her body or something.
Would that mean Supergirl is Superman's great great great... grandmother?

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Would that mean Supergirl is Superman's great great great... grandmother?
i prefer Doomsday to Supergirl.

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