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Old 11-12-2013, 04:35 PM   #576
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I thought feige said somewhere that there would be an explanation for that.

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Old 11-12-2013, 04:40 PM   #577
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I can see Thor employing a non-interference policy when it comes to humans battling each other.

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Ew. Then that would make him the worst protector of Midgard ever. Loki even pointed that out in Avengers.

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Old 11-12-2013, 05:18 PM   #579
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Agreed; plus, if SHIELD is in a position where it’s inner workings are being controlled by the wrong people who are using it for their own needs, considering that SHIELD is an worldwide organization that can affect how things go about on Earth, Thor would be a idiot not to get involved if he had a chance to help. What’s the point of being a protector if you allow the place that you’re supposed to protect to destroy itself?

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So considering on how Thor:TDW ended with Thor...

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Pretty much choosing to be on Earth (at least, for the time being), I wonder how they’ll explain why he’s not around helping Steve and company when the climactic events of WS comes about.

I can understand why Tony wouldn’t be around considering that he’d still be on sabbatical, and why Hulk isn’t around either but I would think that Thor would be a different issue since he can travel at a very fast speed with flight. And I’m pretty sure that SHIELD would definitely keep track on where Thor was staying on Earth, which would make it that much easier for Steve to go to him for help.



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Maybe they are concurrent .

Thor wasn't aware of what was going on in D.C. because he was hopping around from realm to realm trying to stop Malekith.

Also, wasn't it implied that Iron Man 2 happened concurrently with Incredible Hulk? That seems to be the way it played out.

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Maybe they are concurrent .

Thor wasn't aware of what was going on in D.C. because he was hopping around from realm to realm trying to stop Malekith.

Also, wasn't it implied that Iron Man 2 happened concurrently with Incredible Hulk? That seems to be the way it played out.
From what I’ve read and understand, when it comes to the order of the present day Phase 1 events… Iron Man 2 starts out first, followed soon by Thor, and then TIH. If anything, the events of Thor 1 and Iron man 2 conclude right around the same time, whereas TIH concludes like a few weeks/days later than both films.

But yeah, unless WS takes place either during or before TDW, I can’t see why Thor wouldn’t be someone that Steve would go to for help.

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crap! Mackie was arrested for DWI.

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Yes we talked about that

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From what I’ve read and understand, when it comes to the order of the present day Phase 1 events… Iron Man 2 starts out first, followed soon by Thor, and then TIH. If anything, the events of Thor 1 and Iron man 2 conclude right around the same time, whereas TIH concludes like a few weeks/days later than both films.

But yeah, unless WS takes place either during or before TDW, I can’t see why Thor wouldn’t be someone that Steve would go to for help.
actually......

Thor's hammer falls to earth around the time coulson visits tony's mansion (mid movie), at the end of IM2, there's news footage of hulk at the college (mid movie)

it essentially goes..

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My point is this, Thor might have been too indisposed to intervene and help out Cap and Iron Man.

He was busy out bringing peace to the other realms. Besides that, he was not allowed to leave Asgard and had a more imminent threat to deal with.

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My point is this, Thor might have been too indisposed to intervene and help out Cap and Iron Man.

He was busy out bringing peace to the other realms. Besides that, he was not allowed to leave Asgard and had a more imminent threat to deal with.
I got that. I think cap 2 might happen at the same time as Thor 2. as well.

Thor wouldn't of been a part of IM3 because he was in asgard

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I really need to see this ****ing footage.
I'm going to try and see Thor 2 again this weekend, just to watch that clip again. It was soooooo badass.

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According to Scarlett, Cap 2 is supposed to take place more 'real time' and that it's been 2 years since the events of Avengers (which, if true, will put it one year after the events of Thor:TDW)

One possibility I can see is that, at the end of TDW doesn't Thor basically say that he will continue to guard/protect the realms as needed even though he'll be 'based' on earth and not on Asgard. If this is the case, Thor could simply be taking care of something off world during the events of Cap2

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According to Scarlett, Cap 2 is supposed to take place more 'real time' and that it's been 2 years since the events of Avengers (which, if true, will put it one year after the events of Thor:TDW)

One possibility I can see is that, at the end of TDW doesn't Thor basically say that he will continue to guard/protect the realms as needed even though he'll be 'based' on earth and not on Asgard. If this is the case, Thor could simply be taking care of something off world during the events of Cap2
.... Jane said the event in new York was 2 years ago....

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.... Jane said the event in new York was 2 years ago....
I thought she said she hadn't seen Thor in two years (this being the first Thor), and that was why she was pissed at him because she seen him on TV when the invasion happened and he didn't even stop by to say hello or anything.

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I thought she said she hadn't seen Thor in two years (this being the first Thor), and that was why she was pissed at him because she seen him on TV when the invasion happened and he didn't even stop by to say hello or anything.
Maybe (i need to rewatch)... But it looked fall / mild winter in the film... So unless its around the same time as IM3 give kraft take a few months it'd be hard to fit in that winow

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According to Scarlett, Cap 2 is supposed to take place more 'real time' and that it's been 2 years since the events of Avengers (which, if true, will put it one year after the events of Thor:TDW)

One possibility I can see is that, at the end of TDW doesn't Thor basically say that he will continue to guard/protect the realms as needed even though he'll be 'based' on earth and not on Asgard. If this is the case, Thor could simply be taking care of something off world during the events of Cap2
According to Cobie Smulders, CATWS takes place immediately after the events of The Avengers.

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joe russo is directing at least two episodes of community season 5, the latter of which they are shooting around now i believe.

so, positive evidence towards there being little-to-no post-production dramas re. CA:TWS

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.... Jane said the event in new York was 2 years ago....
I acknowledge I might need to see it again, but I'm pretty sure she didn't say it had been 2 years since New York, pretty sure she was talking about when she last saw Thor in person (and a lot of interviews have indicated that Thor takes place a year after Avengers).
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According to Cobie Smulders, CATWS takes place immediately after the events of The Avengers.
It's possible they may do something similar to what TDW did, because I had been hearing similar conflicting things about that film as well before it came out, that it either picked up right where Avengers left off or that it took place a year after Avengers, both ended up being true. The scene with Loki brought before Odin was indeed picking up right after Avengers, but the rest of the movie takes place a year later. So possible TWS might do something similar, parts or the very beginning of the movie might be a 'flashback' on what happened right after Avengers occurred (which could be what Cobie is referencing) while the rest of it/the bulk of it takes place two years later.

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.... Jane said the event in new York was 2 years ago....

No, she said it was 2 years since Thor disappeared in New Mexico

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According to Cobie Smulders, CATWS takes place immediately after the events of The Avengers.
This, guys, this^

I haven't heard Scarlett say anything about two years after...
everybody in the production we've heard from so far said Cap takes place right after avengers, putting Thor in the middle of cleaning up the mess in the 9 realms

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This, guys, this^

I haven't heard Scarlett say anything about two years after...
everybody in the production we've heard from so far said Cap takes place right after avengers, putting Thor in the middle of cleaning up the mess in the 9 realms
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This film is in real time. It’s been two years since [the characters] appeared, and now both are agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. fighting in the streets. We are not superheroes flying side by side. They help each other because we are fighting in a similar way. It’s a working relationship.”

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to be fair... she says "SINCE THE CHARACTERS APPEARED" neither first appeared in Avengers...

it probably HAS been 2 years since IM2 (Natasha) and Cap made it into present time at the end of Cap

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Silvermoon with the mic drop.

Since people continue to bring up the timeline question, I think that it makes far more sense for all of the movies (and now Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.) to take place in real time. It also seems that with the crossover next week on AOS where they are in London following the events of T:TDW, Marvel has the same idea. At this point, I'd be willing to bet that the timeline from here on out is pretty much linear and happens in "real time."

I know it's a fictional universe, but come on, what are the odds on most of the Phase I things happening within a week of other? I've always thought the timeline for that was silly and it just makes more sense for things to happen months or even years apart.

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to be fair... she says "SINCE THE CHARACTERS APPEARED" neither first appeared in Avengers...

it probably HAS been 2 years since IM2 (Natasha) and Cap made it into present time at the end of Cap
Or, the more likely scenario is that she meant "...since they last appeared."

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