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Old 12-13-2013, 03:28 PM   #701
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Uhhh, excuse my confusion. Afro....Brazilian?
Sunspot's dad is a black guy from Brazil. Brazil has more black people than anywhere on the planet except Africa.

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Cheadle needs more screen time. He's such a good actor, and War Machine is such a badass. I'm just worried that they're adding him just to get him killed off or something. Because you know, the Black guy is always the first one to go.

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I think possibly Tony could be the one to die, if anyone, although I hope no one does. He'd have the biggest impact on the General Audience I would think, especially if he's a key role in bringing Ultron to life. And then of course he'll be back some way in A3. Killing Rhodey or Hawkguy doesn't seem to weigh as much compared to Tony going down.

But then were stuck with Tony taking a big emotional part of the film like he did already in Avengers, which I personally had no problem with but I really want to see Cap shine in this film and become the central face of the Avengers.

There's so many awesome things that can happen, I can't wait! Hopefully I don't spoil myself too much.

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I'm expecting two members to die actually. One to raise the stakes, one for the cost of victory.

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I'm expecting two members to die actually. One to raise the stakes, one for the cost of victory.
Who would your choices (victims) be? Lol.

I could see the raise the stakes being another non-super guy like Coulson, or maybe like Quicksilver? Or even a MoE guy if they show up, like the team is fighting them and Ultron just blasts one for not doing his plan and everyone is just like, "whoa!"

The cost of Victory one could again be Tony in my eyes, I really don't want to lost Cap, Thor, Hulk, or any other member.

I'm most curious about that one interview jut posted where it was saying the team is basically in shambles by the end of this movie and basically broken up. I'm wondering if that comes from inter-squad differences or the scale of the battle really weighing on the team and the separate, or something different altogether.

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*shakes head* You guys all do realize your arguing waaaay ahead of actual facts, right? We have precisely no evidence that anyone dies in the movie at all, let alone Rhodey specifically. The outrage and offense is more than a little premature.

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*shakes head* You guys all do realize your arguing waaaay ahead of actual facts, right? We have precisely no evidence that anyone dies in the movie at all, let alone Rhodey specifically. The outrage and offense is more than a little premature.
The Hollywood Standard is....if a black guy joins a team in an action film or an horror film, he'll be the first to die.

This is why the assumption is that Rhodey will die.

It would be really stupid of Marvel to do, because one of my beefs with the MCU is the lack of diversity.

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There is a chance we might see Bill Foster (Black/Goliath, Giant-Man 2) in Ant-Man although he probably won't have powers in the movie.
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There is a chance we might see Bill Foster (Black/Goliath, Giant-Man 2) in Ant-Man although he probably won't have powers in the movie.
Not like it matters. We won't see him in other movies anyways.

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Who knows they might use him in something like Agents Of Shield.

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Who knows they might use him in something like Agents Of Shield.
Not if Bill Foster takes place in the 70's.

It's like the Howling Commandos. Unless the rumored Peggy Carter series comes to fruition or they make uncredited cameos in Cap 2, we may never see any of them ever again, except for maybe Dum Dum Dugan.

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Why do you think Bill Foster will be from the 70's?

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Why do you think Bill Foster will be from the 70's?
He's closely associated with Pym. If Pym is from the 70's, then Foster could also be from the 70's.

But even if Pym is present day, Foster will only be in one movie. However, if the actor who plays Foster is a known enough name, he may show up in more than one movie.

If Foster shows up in this movie and we have Black Panther with his own solo project, that leaves one major Black Avenger left we have not seen in the MCU:


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I don't think Ant-Man takes place in the 70's

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I don't think Ant-Man takes place in the 70's
I hope not because I want to see Hank, Janet and Lang join the Avengers as Giant Man, Wasp and Ant Man.

If Foster debuts in Ant Man and BP gets his own solo film, this leaves Monica Rambeau as the only major Black Avenger who has not shown up in the MCU.

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*shakes head* You guys all do realize your arguing waaaay ahead of actual facts, right? We have precisely no evidence that anyone dies in the movie at all, let alone Rhodey specifically. The outrage and offense is more than a little premature.
You do realize that this is just a fan site, and in fact, and thread with the word "speculation" in the title, right? People are just having fun speciulating. No need to harsh their buzz. Just push yourself away from the table and let everyone talk.

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There is a chance we might see Bill Foster (Black/Goliath, Giant-Man 2) in Ant-Man although he probably won't have powers in the movie.
woah where did this even come from?

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I'm expecting two members to die actually. One to raise the stakes, one for the cost of victory.
I wouldnt be surprised to see one emotional death (Tony perhaps) and the sacrificial death (Scarlet Witch).

Not what I *want* but just a theory.

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woah where did this even come from?
Just speculating.

Marvel likes diverse casts in their movies and if Pym is in Ant-Man he will have a supporting cast. Bill is the closet thing he has to a Rhodey or Sam Wilson or Happy.

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*shakes head* You guys all do realize your arguing waaaay ahead of actual facts, right? We have precisely no evidence that anyone dies in the movie at all, let alone Rhodey specifically. The outrage and offense is more than a little premature.
The villain is Ultron. That alone should tell you somebody is going to die.

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I think if anyone dies it'll be Scarlet Witch. She's probably easiest to bring back. But I dont really think anyone will die just because its ultron.

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I doubt anyone will die. CP and Thor still have franchises going strong marvel has talked about tony being in the avengers 3 I believe, and after how popular he was in the first movie, I doubt they would kill off the hulk

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I think if anyone dies it'll be Scarlet Witch. She's probably easiest to bring back. But I dont really think anyone will die just because its ultron.
I hope somebody dies. This is Ultron we're talking about, I'm sure he's going to kill an Avenger or someone close to the Avengers.

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If Foster shows up in this movie and we have Black Panther with his own solo project, that leaves one major Black Avenger left we have not seen in the MCU:
Foster was never a "major" Avenger. I'm not sure if he's ever been an Avenger period.

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