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It would be kinda interesting if they went the reverse route from the jump and did JL first then the solos. But that's not what I prefer.

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Even though ever rumor has said these characters are cameos?
A bunch of cameos seems cheap and cheesy to me. I just don't see the point of them doing that. I say don't wast screen time. I'd rather have more character development and not a "Where's Waldo" game with DC characters.

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A bunch of cameos seems cheap and cheesy to me. I just don't see the point of them doing that. I say don't wast screen time. I'd rather have more character development and not a "Where's Waldo" game with DC characters.
cameos don't eat up screen time.
Did Hawkeye eat up screen time in Thor???
Did Fury eat up screen time in Captain America????

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A bunch of cameos seems cheap and cheesy to me. I just don't see the point of them doing that. I say don't wast screen time. I'd rather have more character development and not a "Where's Waldo" game with DC characters.
we don't know the extent of WW and Nightwing's roles in this. It could range from supporting character to cameo. And we'll know the "point" of including them once we see the movie, of course you wouldn't see the point of them using those characters.

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cameos don't eat up screen time.
Did Hawkeye eat up screen time in Thor???
Did Fury eat up screen time in Captain America????
A little bit, yeah. And they were unnecessary.

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A little bit, yeah. And they were unnecessary.
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A bunch of cameos seems cheap and cheesy to me. I just don't see the point of them doing that. I say don't wast screen time. I'd rather have more character development and not a "Where's Waldo" game with DC characters.
You don't know if the rumors are true, nor do you know the extent to which the characters may or may not be used. You don't even know if they're going to be in flashbacks, or in the current timeline. You don't know if they're just going to be mentioned, by way of talking about them, or simply having their pictures up on a screen.

How do you know that it will be cheesy when you don't actually know anything?

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You don't know if the rumors are true, nor do you know the extent to which the characters may or may not be used. You don't even know if they're going to be in flashbacks, or in the current timeline. You don't know if they're just going to be mentioned, by way of talking about them, or simply having their pictures up on a screen.

How do you know that it will be cheesy when you don't actually know anything?
Because they hate the very idea of this film so every piece of news announced is met with hate.

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we don't know the extent of WW and Nightwing's roles in this. It could range from supporting character to cameo. And we'll know the "point" of including them once we see the movie, of course you wouldn't see the point of them using those characters.
I could deal with NW because, realistically, they're gonna have to introduce some of Batman's supporting characters. I don't think they need NW and prefer Batman working alone, but I could deal with him. I can see him having a point. WW? Nah. I can't fathom a non-cheesy way for her to be there. But...I could be proven wrong. There were some things in MOS I thought I would hate, but didn't. So who knows.

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Yeah I understand why you'd feel like that about Wonder Woman. Until we know the way she's going to be included, we should all be slightly concerned.

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I could deal with NW because, realistically, they're gonna have to introduce some of Batman's supporting characters. I don't think they need NW and prefer Batman working alone, but I could deal with him. I can see him having a point. WW? Nah. I can't fathom a non-cheesy way for her to be there. But...I could be proven wrong. There were some things in MOS I thought I would hate, but didn't. So who knows.
and this is the problem right here…it's your perception. I could think of half a dozen non cheesy ways for her to be in this film.

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Yeah I understand why you'd feel like that about Wonder Woman. Until we know the way she's going to be included, we should all be slightly concerned.
why should we be slightly concerned about a character cameo that may or may not be in this film…seems like too much worrying about nothing

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Because they hate the very idea of this film so every piece of news announced is met with hate.
Not hate. If I hated this unmade film, I would outright say that. More like skepticism. Before a movie that I'm anticipating coming out, I try to get my head around it anyway I can. Rumors are all I have right now. And I'm just talking, not throwing a fit or boycotting anything. And of course people who want these other characters are happy.

I wanted a true supes sequel and won't get it yet. I made some peace with the Batman thing, then these rumors of other characters came out and it disappoints me. And again, rumors are all there is to react to. If the rumors turn out false, I'll gladly change my tune or make peace with it.

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Why should we be concerned about the way Wonder Woman may or not be portrayed? That question answers itself.

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That is what they are doing.

You think they should do one thing, and the people in the movie business are going to do something that probably isnt that (even though so far we have no idea what it is going to be so I dont know how you know they are rushing or not planning on developing other characters or whatever). Let the movie people do their jobs.
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You don't know if the rumors are true, nor do you know the extent to which the characters may or may not be used. You don't even know if they're going to be in flashbacks, or in the current timeline. You don't know if they're just going to be mentioned, by way of talking about them, or simply having their pictures up on a screen.

How do you know that it will be cheesy when you don't actually know anything?
I don't know that. I'm just going by rumors that concern me because that's all there are right now. I'm talking hypothetically and thinking that it has the potential to be cheesy, not that it will be.

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I wanted a true supes sequel and won't get it yet. I made some peace with the Batman thing, then these rumors of other characters came out and it disappoints me. And again, rumors are all there is to react to. If the rumors turn out false, I'll gladly change my tune or make peace with it.
Why are the additions of these character disappointing to you? We know that WB is using this movie to expand their universe…so why wouldn't there be cameos of other characters? You see this as a negative when really it's not. I am sure we will get a MOS2….In fact the MOS blu-ray hinted at Doomsday…I take that to mean that Superman's story will continue…in another group of films...but even if we don't there will still be more movies with Superman in them. You look at Nightwing like it's a bad thing…what I see is a universe that allows for secondary/sidekicks…and if that is true then the possibility exists for Supergirl, Superboy and Steel.

WB expanding their universe is a good thing for fans of all DC characters.

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Why should we be concerned about the way Wonder Woman may or not be portrayed? That question answers itself.
If WW is in this movie it's a cool little cameo…if not nothing bad happened

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Why are the additions of these character disappointing to you? We know that WB is using this movie to expand their universe…so why wouldn't there be cameos of other characters? You see this as a negative when really it's not. I am sure we will get a MOS2….In fact the MOS blu-ray hinted at Doomsday…I take that to mean that Superman's story will continue…in another group of films...but even if we don't there will still be more movies with Superman in them. You look at Nightwing like it's a bad thing…what I see is a universe that allows for secondary/sidekicks…and if that is true then the possibility exists for Supergirl, Superboy and Steel.

WB expanding their universe is a good thing for fans of all DC characters.
I guess I'm not an equal fan of all DC characters. I pick favorites. And I think some characters lend themselves better to more interesting stories.

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A bunch of cameos seems cheap and cheesy to me. I just don't see the point of them doing that. I say don't wast screen time. I'd rather have more character development and not a "Where's Waldo" game with DC characters.
As much as people hate that idea, that's the last thing I hear anyone detracting from the Day's of future past production. And this seems hardly that.

Moreover all I hear my friends talk about from the new thor film is that mid film cameo..doesn't seem to have hurt anyone(outside of that character's characterization).

Why worry about worst case scenario where there is clearly alternatives.

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Or she's Bruce's love interest and has a significant role, only to be revealed as Diana at the end. We DON'T KNOW how big her role would be

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I guess I'm not an equal fan of all DC characters. I pick favorites. And I think some characters lend themselves better to more interesting stories.
CBM's have the ability to sometimes make us care about characters we don't in the comics. I was not a fan of Tony Stark/Iron Man in the comics. Tony Stark/Iron Man in the movies is a completely different animal.

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As much as people hate that idea, that's the last thing I hear anyone detracting from the Day's of future past production. And this seems hardly that.

Moreover all I hear my friends talk about from the new thor film is that mid film cameo..doesn't seem to have hurt anyone(outside of that character's characterization).

Why worry about worst case scenario where there is clearly alternatives.
and how many characters will be in Avengers 2….and if Avengers 3 follows what everyone thinks…where will characterization be in that mega fest

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As much as people hate that idea, that's the last thing I hear anyone detracting from the Day's of future past production. And this seems hardly that.

Moreover all I hear my friends talk about from the new thor film is that mid film cameo..doesn't seem to have hurt anyone(outside of that character's characterization).

Why worry about worst case scenario where there is clearly alternatives.
I "worry" about the scenario of this movie like I "worry" about what kind of sandwich I'll make for lunch tomorrow. I'm just skeptical. It won't destroy me or anything. And if these cameos mean so little, why have them?

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