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Stark is going to create Ultron but with the rumor about Thor breaking up with Jane, I'm guessing that all of the Avengers are going to be somewhat responsible for Ultron. They are probably spent fighting the battles without SHIELD, and Tony bankrolling them.

Stark is definitely the guy that makes him, but I think most of the Avengers with maybe the exceptions of Cap and Hawkeye will go along with it, and maybe even encourage Stark to build it. Tony is definitely going to be the driving force on building it, and I'm guessing possibly at the beginning of the movie, he will not be Iron Man and will step back in the suit toward the middle to end of the film.

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I love TIH but it does seem like Marvel themselves have tried to distance themselves from it for example I've noticed in the GOTG tv spots they say 'from the studio that gave you The Avengers, Iron Man, Thor and Captain America. No mention of poor TIH .

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It's easy to ignore it. With ignoring the recasting, we can all just assume and guess what Ruffalo's Hulk's history is just making an amalgam of knowledge we have from comics and past movies.

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I love TIH but it does seem like Marvel themselves have tried to distance themselves from it for example I've noticed in the GOTG tv spots they say 'from the studio that gave you The Avengers, Iron Man, Thor and Captain America. No mention of poor TIH .
I know they have but my question was it's sihnificance to the MCU. I'm having a discussion with some folk over at CBM who said IM3 and TIH have no significance to the MCU whatsoever and I disagree.

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I know they have but my question was it's sihnificance to the MCU. I'm having a discussion with some folk over at CBM who said IM3 and TIH have no significance to the MCU whatsoever and I disagree.
IM3 I would say does, though it isn't exactly IM, TWS or Thor.

TIH has no significance anymore. The Banner is a very different character (not just actor), with a story and characters that have had no relevance outside of that film. Wheres Betty?

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I love TIH but it does seem like Marvel themselves have tried to distance themselves from it for example I've noticed in the GOTG tv spots they say 'from the studio that gave you The Avengers, Iron Man, Thor and Captain America. No mention of poor TIH .
Marvel is in fact distancing themselves from it. They had to get a new actor, the movie didn't do great at the BO. Unless that "thing" Hulk is supposed to fight in this movie that Serkis was brought on to do the motioncap for is the Abomination, there's no real connection to the rest of the MCU other than a few throwaway lines in Avengers. Paraphrasing, "Last time I was in New York, I kind of broke Harlem". Then there is the other piece of dialogue where he talks about putting a gun in his mouth and pulling the trigger. Sadly, that scene wasn't included in TIH.

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I know they have but my question was it's sihnificance to the MCU. I'm having a discussion with some folk over at CBM who said IM3 and TIH have no significance to the MCU whatsoever and I disagree.
Both are very significant to the MCU. With IM3 you have the whole drone thing, and extremis. Then TIH set up some stuff with the super soldier serum, the connected universe (SHIELD and whatnot), it established the banner character, showed us that hulk is a hero, and showed that banner had some control of the hulk in the end of the film.

The one character that I would've liked to see return from TIH is General Ross. He should be an important figure in these films. Maybe he could show up in Agents of SHIELD

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I'd still gladly watch TIH in a MCU movie marathon.

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Stark is going to create Ultron but with the rumor about Thor breaking up with Jane, I'm guessing that all of the Avengers are going to be somewhat responsible for Ultron. They are probably spent fighting the battles without SHIELD, and Tony bankrolling them.

Stark is definitely the guy that makes him, but I think most of the Avengers with maybe the exceptions of Cap and Hawkeye will go along with it, and maybe even encourage Stark to build it. Tony is definitely going to be the driving force on building it, and I'm guessing possibly at the beginning of the movie, he will not be Iron Man and will step back in the suit toward the middle to end of the film.
Ya, that's what I was talking about earlier. Makes a ton of sense and I hope they struggle mightily with the decision.

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I would love to see Ross in these movies I prefer Sam Elliot's Ross to Hurt's Though
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IM3 I would say does, though it isn't exactly IM, TWS or Thor.

TIH has no significance anymore. The Banner is a very different character (not just actor), with a story and characters that have had no relevance outside of that film. Wheres Betty?
To be fair Banner in TA referenced the events of that film though. And it was referenced both in IM2 and TA as well. It still exists within the MCU but seems like Marvel wants nothing to do with it (judging with the GOTG marketing campaign). Why some of the MCU films and tv show still reference that film, remains to be seen.

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Ultron looks FANTASTIC! Still, the image is kinda funny. Im tempted to scream at Cap and Stark "You idiots! Dont stare at me! They are right behind you!"

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I love TIH but it does seem like Marvel themselves have tried to distance themselves from it for example I've noticed in the GOTG tv spots they say 'from the studio that gave you The Avengers, Iron Man, Thor and Captain America. No mention of poor TIH .
TIH is one of my favorites, but it's not a hit at the BO. That's why it's not listed. People need to stop reading into it more than that.

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Both are very significant to the MCU. With IM3 you have the whole drone thing, and extremis. Then TIH set up some stuff with the super soldier serum, the connected universe (SHIELD and whatnot), it established the banner character, showed us that hulk is a hero, and showed that banner had some control of the hulk in the end of the film.

The one character that I would've liked to see return from TIH is General Ross. He should be an important figure in these films. Maybe he could show up in Agents of SHIELD
It is a very different Banner character. Also Hulk the hero and Bruce in control are both also introduced in The Avengers. I'd even say both are done far more effectively in The Avengers. So yeah, when you think about it, almost completely irrelevant.

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It is a very different Banner character. Also Hulk the hero and Bruce in control are both also introduced in The Avengers. I'd even say both are done far more effectively in The Avengers. So yeah, when you think about it, almost completely irrelevant.
It's not though. Plot points from that movie have been discussed in The Avengers and even Agents of Shield. It's just not prominently featured because it struggled at the BO and they don't want to be completely married to it.

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The Incredible Hulk may not be MCU's strongest outing, but I still very much enjoy it.

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