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View Poll Results: What do YOU think Thor Dark World will do?
500 Million 8 7.08%
550 Million 10 8.85%
600 Million 10 8.85%
650 Million 10 8.85%
700 Million 17 15.04%
750 Million 16 14.16%
800 Million 22 19.47%
850 Million 8 7.08%
900 Million 3 2.65%
950 Million 1 0.88%
1 Billion plus 8 7.08%
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Old 11-21-2013, 04:56 PM   #126
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I really think some of you guys are misrepresenting what we are saying in regards to box office. We arent saying oh the movie bombed. But some of us are surprised at the lower box office numbers this is getting in the states. With all the varibles that it had regarding a 181 million box office two years then following a 600 million domestic of avengers last year and two weeks of basically no competition. Worldwide is great I do think there is a little drop off in interest of superhero movies in this country with regards to how this sequel is doing and wolverine. I think personally that the people who making these movies are looking at these numbers and can see a small problem here.

Look we are not just picking on Thor. If hunger games has a similar box office we would be talking about that as well. Granted its ceiling is much higher but with a few exceptions I have been reading through these posts and very few predicted these domestic numbers. Compliments to those who did because I would have never guessed that a Thor sequel after the avengers would only make a little bit more than the original domestic wise.
If it makes it to 250 million as some think it might,
Thats only 30 million short from 100 million more than the original .
You call that a little better than the first one ?

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Old 11-21-2013, 05:06 PM   #127
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If it makes it to 250 million as some think it might,
Thats only 30 million short from 100 million more than the original .
You call that a little better than the first one ?
Right now its on track for about 25 million more domestic than the first thor. And honestly its losing ground on that. The first thor has outgrossed it for the last 4 days at the same time as in its release. I hate to tell you guys but this film is dropping hard here at home. At this point it might make 200 million which would be 19 million more than the first one. It opened 20 million more than the first one and really hasnt done better since.

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Old 11-21-2013, 05:47 PM   #128
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If it makes it to 250 million as some think it might,
Thats only 30 million short from 100 million more than the original .
You call that a little better than the first one ?
It has no chance at 250 million now. It's going to struggle to get over 210.

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Old 11-21-2013, 06:44 PM   #129
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Right now its on track for about 25 million more domestic than the first thor. And honestly its losing ground on that. The first thor has outgrossed it for the last 4 days at the same time as in its release. I hate to tell you guys but this film is dropping hard here at home. At this point it might make 200 million which would be 19 million more than the first one. It opened 20 million more than the first one and really hasnt done better since.

Interesting. Plus Thor 2's production budget is like 175-180 million right? Way more than the 1st film.

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Old 11-21-2013, 06:54 PM   #130
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It has to hold up decently this weekend, it cannot afford a really large drop. I'm thinking 55% drop right now.

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Old 11-21-2013, 07:23 PM   #131
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Interesting. Plus Thor 2's production budget is like 175-180 million right? Way more than the 1st film.
Its budget is reported at 20 million more. I never believe production budgets. I just dont. Studios put out numbers like that to make things look better. This film had to have a much higher production budget than that. Unless they found ways to cut salaries which I am not aware of. Just the returning actors would be asking for millions more not to mention bigger and more spectacular effects and larger crew. I never trust studios when they say that stuff. They could throw out any number and there is no way to research it.

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504mill ww
Is 352mil the full foreign total
im asking because last weeks foreign total was at 344mil im just wondering if 8mil s all it got ?
Last weeks foreign total was 332 M. The film has done $20 M since Monday at 12:01 AM at the foreign box office. That's not too shabby.

Thor probably has 50 M left in the tank domestic, and 100 M left foreign.

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$20 mil more than the 1st film is not WAY more in terms of blockbuster budgets. Also, this will be Marvel's 3rd biggest film potentially guys. Why is this a disappointment, but say IM2's 600 mil isn't? This film has done well. I agree with others, this will only teach people that 1 billion or over 800 isn't an easy achievement and no solos are guaranteed to hit that number. That said, this is a very strong box office performance. Rejoice, be happy. Get pumped for Thor 3.

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Old 11-21-2013, 08:37 PM   #134
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It's very hard to cross 600 m WW.

Only four solo superheroes have done it: Superman, Iron Man, Spider-man, and Batman.

and Thor is about to join that exclusive club of A-listers.

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Last weeks foreign total was 332 M. The film has done $20 M since Monday at 12:01 AM at the foreign box office. That's not too shabby.

Thor probably has 50 M left in the tank domestic, and 100 M left foreign.
Sorry looked at the number wrong thanks for yhe correct I was worried.
but does that mean 10-15 mil next foreign total update and are all the os markets open yet?

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$20 mil more than the 1st film is not WAY more in terms of blockbuster budgets. Also, this will be Marvel's 3rd biggest film potentially guys. Why is this a disappointment, but say IM2's 600 mil isn't? This film has done well. I agree with others, this will only teach people that 1 billion or over 800 isn't an easy achievement and no solos are guaranteed to hit that number. That said, this is a very strong box office performance. Rejoice, be happy. Get pumped for Thor 3.
Exactly my posts are not intended to be negative. They are just attempting to bring people back down to earth.

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Sorry looked at the number wrong thanks for yhe correct I was worried.
but does that mean 10-15 mil next foreign total update and are all the os markets open yet?
No. That total is since last weekend. To do 20 M during 4 weekdays at this point in it's run is pretty good. It should do another 30 M this weekend, and maybe 12 M next week for a 42 M Friday to Friday, Foreign.

Thor The Dark World might do more internationally than Thor did total.

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Old 11-22-2013, 10:48 AM   #138
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Early estimates from Deadline are that CF made 25.5 million last night.
That is 28%percent better than the original.
Combining the Brazil total WW estimates are that the film has made 32 million so far .
Domestically,CF is expected to make somewhere betweem 160-180 million this weekend.
Nothing on Thor yet.
But this gives us an idea of what to expect from CF .


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Old 11-22-2013, 11:12 AM   #139
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Box office mojo has it pegged around 150 to 160 Million.
Anything higher will be hard considering it has no 3D bump and its showing in the same amount of theatres as the last. and early 8pm Thursday showings will bleed some of the weekend numbers as well...
They predict TDW will do 15 Millon...

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Its budget is reported at 20 million more. I never believe production budgets. I just dont. Studios put out numbers like that to make things look better. This film had to have a much higher production budget than that. Unless they found ways to cut salaries which I am not aware of. Just the returning actors would be asking for millions more not to mention bigger and more spectacular effects and larger crew. I never trust studios when they say that stuff. They could throw out any number and there is no way to research it.

Agreed. The announced production budgets by the studio can easily be inaccurate.

The scope of Thor 2 is much grander than the first film. I woudn't be surprised if Thor 2's production budget was closer to 190 million. Not including marketing.

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Agreed. The announced production budgets by the studio can easily be inaccurate.

The scope of Thor 2 is much grander than the first film. I woudn't be surprised if Thor 2's production budget was closer to 190 million. Not including marketing.
Even at 190mil, this is a successful film for Marvel. Very successful.

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So it's at $153M domestic right now, and $504M WW
It's gunna have to fight for $200M, which if the budget was 190, would be pretty rough
then account for the crap take studios get from china, and it's profit looks fairly weak
Im sure a sequel's still on the way, but I'm also sure we all hoped the "Avengers Bump" would've helped more

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The Avengers Bump probably helped it get a sequel.

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Even at 190mil, this is a successful film for Marvel. Very successful.
I agree.
Some of the negativity in these posts,
Its like peeking into some paralell universe.

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Right now its on track for about 25 million more domestic than the first thor. And honestly its losing ground on that. The first thor has outgrossed it for the last 4 days at the same time as in its release. I hate to tell you guys but this film is dropping hard here at home. At this point it might make 200 million which would be 19 million more than the first one. It opened 20 million more than the first one and really hasnt done better since.
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It has no chance at 250 million now. It's going to struggle to get over 210.
Also true.

I honestly think the problem for Thor in the USA is that it is really 3 genres...

Superhero
fantasy
sci-fi

Which is what it always was from 1962 to 1970 under Kirby/Lee----so that isn't an insurmountable thing.

The problem is that the movie is trying to be all 3 things in the SAME movie.

I think if they had done a simple earthbound movie where Thor is on Earth and a couple of Asgardian foes meddled and created Absorbing Man or Wrecker and then had come to earth for a final face off in person, it would have been cheaper to make and gotten more USA traction OR

if they had just left out Jane and done a Thor/Sif Warriors 3 in a realms quest OR

if they had done a Thor vs the Colonizers space thing--super powerful 'god' versus alien hi-tech.

But in trying to combine all 3 in one movie left some folks confused, "What is this?"

I love the movie, but I fear that they tried too much in 112 minutes.

As a comic fan I would be very happy to have Thor just be a 'superhero' in one movie--interacting with humans---fighting in the streets of some major city while Enchantress or Loki or karnilla pulls the strings and then a showdown at the end. Why does the survival of the 9 realms have to be at stake?

Now I think we are obligated to get a 'Surtur' movie and Thor using his hammer once again against a mega-foe instead of his fists like he did in most comic issues back in the day.


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Outgrossed the original in 2 weeks,
In that same time period made it to 500 million WW.

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Outgrossed the original in 2 weeks,
In that same time period made it to 500 million WW.
Yes WW it did, but it is very surprising it has fallen behind the pace of the first one in the USA despite having 14 full days of no competition from any genre movie.

Thank god it will have all the holidays and school breaks until several days into January.

But considering the success of Avengers and seeing the fairly average quality IM3 kicks the doors down in a more crowded time of year for movies---I'm a little depressed.

Money is money and it made a lot of money and they will no doubt green-light a sequel, but weird it doesn't do better in the land of its birth fifty years on.

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Should have a total of $170 million by Sunday and even though it'll face competition from Hunger Games and Frozen, I'm positive it will play really well next Wednesday through Sunday taking it past the $200 million mark. Final gross around $220 million.

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Should have a total of $170 million by Sunday and even though it'll face competition from Hunger Games and Frozen, I'm positive it will play really well next Wednesday through Sunday taking it past the $200 million mark. Final gross around $220 million.
Dude the film is dropping like a rock. 5 days in a row that the first thor outgrossed it at the same time of their respective releases. It wont be at 170 million after this weekend. No way it makes 18 million with hunger games releasing. I am starting to think it might not make what the first one did domestic.

http://www.boxofficemojo.com/showdow...d=thorshow.htm

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Thor 2 should get a nice bump from the holidays.

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