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Old 11-30-2013, 02:41 PM   #776
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Well, the DCAU and Smallville both made changes to the character. So, I'd imagine he'd be different here too. Unless they decide to actually just make him a plot device and nothing more.

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Smallville made him into the son of Zod and Faora. One of the few interesting ideas they had.

Shame it was executed so poorly.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrkrR...etailpage#t=11

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I wonder if they'll ever get around to explaining the Kryptonian explorer craft and the empty hibernation pod? The prequel comic suggested it was Kara.

I've been wanting to pick up the prequel comics to see if they shed some light on that. It's my guess that she's stuck in the ice somewhere not far from where the scout ship was found. I hope they give more clues on that. I'm not sure if that was meant to be just an easter egg to allude to her, or if there really is a story there they plan on telling sometime down the road.

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I've heard so many people talk about how Superman would kill Lois if they ever had sex, but I've never heard someone make this point before and it's brilliant. If Superman's bodily fluids are so dangerous, then he'd have to use a kryptonite toilet every time he takes a dump.
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Smallville made him into the son of Zod and Faora. One of the few interesting ideas they had.

Shame it was executed so poorly.

I still laugh at the lameness of this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrkrR...etailpage#t=11
I was fine with it until they pretty went against what they said at the end of it all. Even Sam Witwer was bothered/shocked with the direction they went.

That scene pretty much showed how dumb they were making everyone around Clark when it came to dealing with Doomsday.

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That is very well done.
Would have been perfect if not for John Locke as Lex? Aiiiiieeeee

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Official photos of the Kent farm construction for BvS:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=111929

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Old 11-30-2013, 05:52 PM   #782
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*jay leno voice*

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http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhugh...-steel-sequel/

alot of supes villains.

i think lex creates parasite and killer croc and hires deathstroke for batsy.

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*jay leno voice*

"did you hear about this?"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhugh...-steel-sequel/

alot of supes villains.

i think lex creates parasite and killer croc and hires deathstroke for batsy.



WTF honestly I hope Supes entire rogue gallery turns up. H e can fight them in a Fight to the death match..

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*jay leno voice*

"did you hear about this?"

http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhugh...-steel-sequel/

alot of supes villains.

i think lex creates parasite and killer croc and hires deathstroke for batsy.
Lex creating Croc? That's stupid only because Croc is the way he is due to a rare medical condition. He wasn't created this way but born.

Also this Forbus list kind of sucks. Let's look at it:

5. Lex and Brainiac

We just had one alien invasion with Zod, now Brainiac will invade? We don't need it. He could be a big JL threat or a threat for another solo Superman film. Also LEX SHOULDN'T CREATE BRAINIAC!!!

4. Lex and Joker

We all know this is how it should be but it's not the right time. This is Superman's film. We shouldn't have another Joker centered film for a while. Great villain but there are so many other villains you could use if you need a Batman rogue. I just would like a break from Joker. Maybe Riddler.

3. Lex and Doomsday

GOD NO!!!

2. Lex and Bizarro

As good as this sounds, I prefer Bizarro for a solo Superman film. Loved his origin in STAS. Great episode. Bizarro isn't a real evil villain.

1. Lex and Metallo

Probably the best idea and the way it should go.

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Official photos of the Kent farm construction for BvS:

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=111929
Nice find. I'm glad to see that because that means we should get more scenes of Martha and Clark...and hopefully Lois. That will be nice.
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http://www.forbes.com/sites/markhugh...-steel-sequel/

alot of supes villains.

i think lex creates parasite and killer croc and hires deathstroke for batsy.
This was a pretty good read. I guess this does confirm Wondy making some kind of cameo. That will be interesting to see because the fan/GA reaction to her will mean a lot to her getting her own film someday. I'll be eager to see who they cast for this cameo because I think in this case it will need to be the actress who will play her in any possible spin off.

Most of the villain guesses have been bandied about here at the Hype, so I don't really see any surprises there. I like all the choices, but I hadn't really thought about Joker/Lex. That will be huge, but I almost think that might too much for this next film. Better to have a lead up to both main villains then throwing them together right away IMO.

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Lex creating Croc? That's stupid only because Croc is the way he is due to a rare medical condition. He wasn't created this way but born.
if you lack imagination maybe. it wouldn't be the first nor the last time that something about a characters story get changed for the big screen. it's croc. he's muscle. that's all he is. he'd be a plot device that makes wayne curious about what lex is doing.

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Nice find. I'm glad to see that because that means we should get more scenes of Martha and Clark...and hopefully Lois. That will be nice.

This was a pretty good read. I guess this does confirm Wondy making some kind of cameo. That will be interesting to see because the fan/GA reaction to her will mean a lot to her getting her own film someday. I'll be eager to see who they cast for this cameo because I think in this case it will need to be the actress who will play her in any possible spin off.

Most of the villain guesses have been bandied about here at the Hype, so I don't really see any surprises there. I like all the choices, but I hadn't really thought about Joker/Lex. That will be huge, but I almost think that might too much for this next film. Better to have a lead up to both main villains then throwing them together right away IMO.
it would. it's been done in that supes:tas 3 episode arc of world's finest, which alot of people have brought up, and frankly, i wouldn't mind it at all.

heath's performance was legendary, and it'll stand the test of time, but i don't think you have to put the character on ice for a decade + to show your respect.

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Croc being created by Lex is a TERRIBLE idea.

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Croc being created by Lex is a TERRIBLE idea.

yep what's worse is Brainiac being created by Lex.

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it would. it's been done in that supes:tas 3 episode arc of world's finest, which alot of people have brought up, and frankly, i wouldn't mind it at all.

heath's performance was legendary, and it'll stand the test of time, but i don't think you have to put the character on ice for a decade + to show your respect.
I agree it could be done, but my concern is Joker and Lex are the primary villains for each character. While we may never see another iconic turn like Ledger, both of these characters need to have some really good stories attached to each of them to build up the actual danger they both possess. In STAS Lex had already been shown as the primary antagonist, and BTAS and BNAS did a fantastic job of building up the Joker...with of course a great assist from Hamill's voice acting. We've had none of that build up for these characters in MOS, so introducing them so early might not be a good thing in and of itself even though it does sound awesome.

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So anybody who doesn't like your ideas must lack imagination and be resistant to change?

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Lex creating Croc is kind of dumb because there are a plethora of SUPERMAN villains he could create instead.

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So anybody who doesn't like your ideas must lack imagination and be resistant to change?
pretty much. personally, i don't give a **** about croc. but if what you want is a hobbit like trilogy with croc as bat's smaug. that's cool too buddy. it's really not that big a deal to me.

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Lex created Metallo, Parasite, Bizarro, yet let's let him create Croc.

If anyone should create Croc, it's Strange. Strange creating Croc, involved in Man-Bat creation for a Bat film.

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pretty much. personally, i don't give a **** about croc. but if what you want is a hobbit like trilogy with croc as bat's smaug. that's cool too buddy. it's really not that big a deal to me.
Boy you're taking this very personally for it being not a big deal.

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Lex creating Croc is kind of dumb because there are a plethora of SUPERMAN villains he could create instead.
like parasite, as mentioned in the my post before everybody got an ice cream headache about lex creating croc. this isn't just a superman movie, it's a batman movie too. bats would have to have a reason to be curious about lex. i see no reason why lex creating croc is that ridiculous.

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Good lord it's crazy hour come early. Lex creating Killer Croc now.

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like parasite, as mentioned in the my post before everybody got an ice cream headache about lex creating croc. this isn't just a superman movie, it's a batman movie too. bats would have to have a reason to be curious about lex. i see no reason why lex creating croc is that ridiculous.
Maybe Batman uses his brain and detective's intuition and looks into Lex's dealings on his own without having to shoehorn a mangled character-wise Batman villain into the movie?

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