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Old 06-10-2017, 05:18 PM   #1
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After Ragnarok I am hoping they will introduce the Eternals and the Olympians to the MCU. I would love to see a Battle between Thor and Hercules, Odin and Zeus and the Celestials landing on earth to create the Eternals. However, there has always been a problem in my mind with introducing both, because some of the Characters have similar names, powers and even looks. So to show that one group came from the Celestials and the other group came from Gaea and Ouranos, with no connection always seemed like too great a coincidence for the audience to buy it. So, with that said the options then becomes 1. Introduce only one of the 2 Groups and never use the other. 2. Introduce both Groups, but either change any of the characters that are too similar or avoid using them all together. For example Zeus and Zuras I would say not to use Zuras. However, a 3rd option came to mind. What if there was a way to connect their stories so it all made sense. So, I began doing some research on the matter and I noticed with both the Olympians and with the Eternals there were 2 Characters that seemed to be at the beginning of each story. Those Characters are Ouranos the Olympian and Uranos the Eternal, as well as Cronus the Olympian and Kronos the Eternal. In the Olympian Story Ouranos is the Father and Cronus is his Son. However, in the Eternals story Uranus and Kronos are Brothers. So, there is definitely some differences, but I tried to figure out how it would be best to try to connect these two groups. After much consideration, I decided that the best way is to have the Celestials create Kronos and Uranos using the Eternals story, along with several other first Generation Eternals. At this point the Olympian's still do not exist. Then to have Kronos mate with his Wife Daina (another Eternal) to create Zuras and Alar's (Mentor). Zuras will father Azura who will later become Thena, and Alar's will eventually mate with Sui San to give Birth to the Titan race including Thanos and Eros (Star Fox). However, back to how the Olympians fit into this. In Mythology and Marvel lore Ouranos mates with Gaea to create the race of Olympians. So, I started thinking since they are brothers in the Eternals story, what if I had Kronos from the Eternals mate with Gaea instead to create Zeus, Poseidon, Pluto, Hera and Hades of the Olympian bloodline with Zeus's line eventually leading to Hercules, Venus, Ares, Apollo, Athena and Hermes. Anyways, by doing so the Similarities of lets say Zuras and Zeus now have merit as they would be half brothers. Also, Gaea had relations with Odin which resulted in Thor, so it keeps the bloodlines connected between Asgardians and Olympians as well. So, I guess just like with the MCU it is all connected. Anyways, just some thoughts.

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Old 06-11-2017, 12:39 AM   #2
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I know everyone thinks that Hollywood should be or is gun shy about films based on Greek Mythology (or any mythology given GODS OF EGYPT...) but I think that's not only short sighted, but after the success of WONDER WOMAN just wrong. I think that the Eternals are... They've always had an odd place in the Marvel Comics universe. Originally Kirby created them and their mythos as a separate continuity from the mainline Marvel Universe. It was later writers that integrated them into the 616 Marvel continuity. As such I've never considered them like... well essential. Sure they have a place and parts of their story forms important back story elements to the comics as a whole now but... I think that weird way they got shoe horned has always made them seem besides the point to me. There have been some great stories with those characters and I like seeing some interactions with the other Marvel characters over the years. The issue where Hercules and Athena from the Olympians tangle with Thena and Ikaris is a fave of mine (actually the whole God Squad story where Herc leads a bunch of Eternals and deities to take on the Skrull pantheon during the Secret Invasion crossover is worth a read by anyone that likes the gods/Eternals in Marvel).

Now the Olympians, and specifically Hercules? Man... I think that adding them to the MCU adds a lot. Herc would be a good character for Thor to bounce off of, the Olympians could be interesting counterparts to the Asgardians and lets be honest here, the casting would be off the chain. You would have to find someone that was a match for Hemmsworth but also cast an actor to match Hopkins as Odin or get a great Ares to match Tom's Loki. Which I think would mean adding great talent into the mix again.

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I say keep the Eternals, which are exclusive to Marvel, and dump the Olympians. Keep Herc as the Gilgamesh/The Forgotten One/Sampson of the group and cast Joe Manganiello to play him.

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What blackmail does Joe have on people that he keeps getting suggested for parts on the Internet? No charisma, no chops, no presence. Nice guy, he comes off well in interviews, but he's as interesting as dish water. His abs are his lone qualification to play Hercules. Him getting cast as Slade Wilson (which should now be off the table than Zod...) was one of the few things I thought was REALLY botched in the DCEU.

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What blackmail does Joe have on people that he keeps getting suggested for parts on the Internet? No charisma, no chops, no presence. Nice guy, he comes off well in interviews, but he's as interesting as dish water. His abs are his lone qualification to play Hercules. Him getting cast as Slade Wilson (which should now be off the table than Zod...) was one of the few things I thought was REALLY botched in the DCEU.
I thought Joe was great in Pee Wees Big Holiday and in How I Met Your Mother. And he certainly looks the part.

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Doesn't Peter Quill count as an Eternal?
Even if they claim he's mortal now?

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Doesn't Peter Quill count as an Eternal?
Even if they claim he's mortal now?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ego_the_Living_Planet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternals_(comics)

I don't believe so.

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