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Old 12-12-2013, 07:22 PM   #126
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Why? because of the Force? That was one specific element of fantasy perhaps. But either way....this isn't star wars! SW doesn't make it all ok!
There is a lot more fantasy to Star Wars than science fiction.
People were saying that you can't have fantasy and sci-fi and I used Star Wars as an example of how it can be used. Magic and science fiction in one movie. The Matrix is another movie that mixes the two.

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I think she may mean fantasy elements like more hobgoblins, Pegasus type creatures, talking tree nymphs and other fantasy elements associated with fantasy. The Force is...metacholorians in the body...lol

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There is a lot more fantasy to Star Wars than science fiction.
Fine, fine. You and your SW. Yeesh.

I'll just say this:

Yes, Matrix and SW mixed the two. But they did it consistently throughout both trilogies. It was expected and not jarring because it was always there.

They're gonna have to do something truly wonderful to prevent my eyes from rolling when WW comes out with her sword and Pegasus to fight Lex Luthor.

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Wonder Woman is not an average amazon…they are not all super strong and invulnerable.
Wonder Woman is not invulnerable according to what I know (I could be wrong) but not as superman's level that's the point of her bracelets, isn't it?
He recovers easy but she's not invulnerable, at least not even at Superman's level

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Old 12-12-2013, 07:26 PM   #130
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Old 12-12-2013, 07:26 PM   #131
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I think she may mean fantasy elements like more hobgoblins, Pegasus type creatures, talking tree nymphs and other fantasy elements associated with fantasy. The Force is...metacholorians in the body...lol
Star Wars also borrows heavily from the Heroes Journey which was created based on examining various mythological stories about heroes. There are swords, magic, and evil wizards.

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Fine, fine. You and your SW. Yeesh.

I'll just say this:

Yes, Matrix and SW mixed the two. But they did it consistently throughout both trilogies. It was expected and not jarring because it was always there.

They're gonna have to do something truly wonderful to prevent my eyes from rolling when WW comes out with her sword and Pegasus to fight Lex Luthor.
trust me on this…I had to do a paper on it for World Building Class.

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But you have to realize this is not just the MOS universe, it's the DC Universe where all of these crazy things happen. Just like Krypton had native creatures, Themyscira should have the same.
Yeah but the point is that Superman was plasmed in a more realistic world and I think Wonder Woman is going to be plasmed according to this new universe that clearly MOS built.
Althought I don't mind (I would like her to fly, but in a different way that Superman does) her to fly. I don't think her presence is going to be as much as Supes-Bats time on screen IMO.

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Wonder Woman is not invulnerable according of what I know (I could be wrong) but not as superman's level that's the point of her bracelets, isn't it?
He recovers easy but she's not invulnerable, at least not even at Superman's level
according to the new 52 they hold back her abilities inherited from Zeus.

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I have degrees in film and screenwriting…World Building Class was part of my screenwriting class

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I have degrees in film and screenwriting…World Building Class was part of my screenwriting class
Interesting. And I do hope you're right and it all doesn't seem dumb. But...as per usual, I remain skeptical.

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according to the new 52 they hold back her abilities inherited from Zeus.
Yeah but I'm not sure if invulnerability is part of them.
The real question is.
Daughter of Zeus, clay baby (kind of silly in this new universe IMO), or being a race in Themyscira and she was blessed by the greek gods (the best option IMO)?

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Yeah but I'm not sure if invulnerability is part of them.
The real question is.
Daughter of Zeus, clay baby (kind of silly in this new universe IMO), or being a race in Themyscira and she was blessed by the greek gods (the best option IMO)?
yeah she's not invulnerable but she is not was weak as a human.

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I think they should replace MM by Cyborg for the JL. My list for the JL is:

1. Superman
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4. The flash
5. Green Lantern
6. Cyborg
Don't agree with the last one. I think MM could be easier to plasm that Cyborg and has more potential in a JL movie.

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Martian Manhunter

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yeah she's not invulnerable but she is not was weak as a human.
Totally agreed. being of a race (Amazons) and blessed by the gods of course she's in another level and she also had a great healing factor.
But to be on Supes level and other members of the league she needs to have some kind of power in her body and she always had it.

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Star Wars also borrows heavily from the Heroes Journey which was created based on examining various mythological stories about heroes. There are swords, magic, and evil wizards.
Yes, I do understand that as well, but I'm saying I think she meant more of the type of fantasy elements you traditionally associate with Greek mythology, which is what WW is based on in part. SW while also fantasy and sci-fi does not incorporate those same sorts of elements. That is what I think she meant. I also understand that because I'm having a hard time seeing them build that sort of world inside the backdrop of MOS' world. I'm not saying it can't be done, but it almost seems unlikely.

I think it's also possible we may see a radically different Diana with origins a bit different then in the comics.

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Totally agreed. being of a race (Amazons) and blessed by the gods of course she's in another level and she also had a great healing factor.
But to be on Supes level and other members of the league she needs to have some kind of power in her body and she always had it.
Not really. She is a child of Zeus. Hercules was a child of Zeus and has traditionally been shown to be as strong as Superman…if not stronger since he held up the earth at one point.

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So Zeus will probably exist in this universe too now?

*sigh*

I'm ok with that. It's all ok. It totally fits. Just like roach said. I'm calm.


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I would agree that Diana is a female Superman if she had heat vision, freeze breath, came from Krypton, had a weakness to Kryptonite, etc.

There are some sizeable differences. "They both fly and they're strong and fast" is pretty tenuous.

I also think people are overthinking why/how she flies, or at least how much we'll see of that in this movie. I think people are underestimating just how much "mystery" there will be to Diana's character in this film. Pretty sure that's WB's plan.

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Not really. She is a child of Zeus. Hercules was a child of Zeus and has traditionally been shown to be as strong as Superman…if not stronger since he held up the earth at one point.
but this was one origin. another one was the silk baby blessed by the gods.
but IMO Wondy is not on Hercules level (you know, not all the children of Zeus had the same strenght or powers, some are stronger, some are slighty weaker). Secong Superman was also able to push a planet in the comics and even more difficult things but I think if Superman's strenght was reduced and plasmed in a realisitc way maybe Hercules strenght to be factual and realistic also need to be reduced and depends to how the story need him to be if stronger or maybe to be slighty weaker or at superman's level. That depends on the person in charge.
I'm not sure if she's going to be the daughter of Zeus in this movie (I think she's gonna have a mixed origin like a greek race of wonderful warriors and wondy the chosen one) but I think there are three options; 1 introduce magic as the way she had her abilities or 2 an ancient race of female warriors and Wonder Woman being the most powerful or 3 the option two plus Wonder woman being blessed by the greek gods to explain how she had this abilities

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I would agree that Diana is a female Superman if she had heat vision, freeze breath, came from Krypton, had a weakness to Kryptonite, etc.

There are some sizeable differences. "They both fly and they're strong and fast" is pretty tenuous.

I also think people are overthinking why/how she flies, or at least how much we'll see of that in this movie. I think people are underestimating just how much "mystery" there will be to Diana's character in this film. Pretty sure that's WB's plan.
That's the road I'd like they to take. You don't need to explain Wonder Woman to make her work, at least not how they did Superman in MoS. They can just drop hints or do some small expositions. But I believe what will matter is what Diana does, and not who she is.

And about power levels, she is arguably the second most powerful member of the Justice League. That's how it should be, but she should also be the best fighter.

What I really want from this film, as far as Wonder Woman goes, is see her kicking all kind of ass.

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Is the only reason people want her to fly because she been flying, or do you think there is a need for her to fly?

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