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Old 01-04-2014, 05:33 PM   #526
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I honestly would prefer they don't go that route.

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Old 01-04-2014, 05:34 PM   #527
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I'm half okay with this. It'd be hard to have more traditional gods like Ares or Zeus though with this kind of origin. Maybe magical Kryptonians? But like others have said, at that point you may as well just give them their regular origin more or less.

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The only thing I don't like out of this mess is the DKR/Kingdom Come/Batman Beyond thing for this Batman.

Why must we have another semi-retired Batman who's apparently only been Batman for like 10 years? It takes him about 30+ years to officially retire in a lot of the media that features that kinda thing.

It's dumb. And needless.

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The guy has contacts in WBs is friends with Michael Uslan producer of the Batman films.

As for all that he's admitted he purposely put if some false info on WBs behalf. Also he never convinced people Bale would be Batman again all he said was there were talks and only an idiot would not believe that WBs tried to get Bale & Nolan back.
That's why I think they wanted a weary 40 something. To reboot the character, but in a way that is consistent with the tone of the Nolan films, so that they could get Bale back if they had to.

Affleck on Batman: "I donít want to give away too much, but the idea for the new Batman is to redefine him in a way that doesnít compete with Bale and Christopher Nolan's Batman but still exists within the Batman canon."

Comics canon or movie canon? I am hoping the former.

But TBH, as much as I want Batman lifted from the comics, many people would like an extension of the Nolanverse.

It would have been just THREE years after TDKR, and the "too soon" effect is almost inevitable. To have a Batman that references the Nolan films in style while being in a more fantastical film would provide a good transition point so that there isn't a complete shock of having a completely different Batman.

Having him become more comic-bookish as the team-up/solo films go on would allow a nice development while giving Ben a chance to really 'peak' later on (when many of the non comic fans can finally appreciate it).

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Old 01-04-2014, 05:55 PM   #531
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maybe kara is gaia and dev-em is ares. maybe they boned some humans.

back when momoa's name was brought up i thought that





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Old 01-04-2014, 05:57 PM   #532
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Bill "Jett" Ramey said this interesting theory that may be represented on this new universe:
I think this has pretty good potential maybe to be ancient aliens (not necessarily kryptonian) but that pretty much is a good one if you ask me.
You omitted the part of the quote where Jett states he would only bet "monopoly money" on the idea he's advanced here. That, in itself, belies his facade of confidence.

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Total bull. A supremely bad idea to begin with anyway.

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Old 01-04-2014, 05:59 PM   #534
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Poor Jett. He wants to matter so badly. But stating the obvious or the likely and then going "Aha, told you so! doesn't hold much water. He's not even good at his "vague scoops". I mean, he just did a Q and A with himself, for goodness sake.

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Oh well the same type of stuff is spewed in this forums also. Not much of a difference actually.
That's true. The key, I think, is to take whatever rumors you're exposed to, regardless of their originating source, with a grain of salt. You can't go wrong that way.

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This idea is lazy & stupid.

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How come there is so much animosity for the Jett and El Mayimbe around here? What's the problem? Jealousy?
I've never had a problem with either them myself. I use to be on Jett's board back in the day and I've got no beef with El May. I like also the guys at the other sites like TMT, Screenrant ,AMC Movie Talk, and others as well, so I personally don't take sides .

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El May is a complete troll. I'm unfamiliar with Jett, though, but I'll take your guys' word for it.

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This is so unbelievably disrespectful to Wonder Woman.

I believe you can't truly be a Wonder Woman fan if you're okay with this idea. Getting rid of the Greek mythology aspect of her origins basically strips the character of anything that made her unique.

It makes her a completely new character.

The fact that Greek gods and monsters would frequently interact with WW is what makes her interesting, getting rid of that part of her character strips her of everything that makes her interesting.

I ****ing hate this idea. It's literally one of the worst, most disrespectful takes there could be on the character.

If you're okay with this idea, you are not a fan of Wonder Woman.

If they go this route, I'll have a lot less faith in Snyder's vision. I don't care at all for this interpretation of WW. It's not even Wonder Woman. It'd be a different character using her same name.

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Remember the rumor that Krypton wasn't going to explode and that Jor-El was going to live?

Zach Snyder and David Goyer wouldn't do this

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Remember the rumor that Krypton wasn't going to explode and that Jor-El was going to live?

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I wanna believe this. MOS was pretty damn respectful towards the source material. This would be a huge slap in the face to all the talented people who have helped shape the greatest female superhero.

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Taking away Wonder Woman's Greek Origins would be like taking away Superman's kryptonian ones.

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There's no animosity, it's just that their track records are mixed at best. It's hard to take them completely seriously, especially when they won't name their so-called "sources."

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I doubt they even explain Wonder Woman's origin in this film she is going to be a cameo ala Black Widow in IM2 (which wasn't even a cameo) and yet they are gonna explain all of this? I don't see how this can be shown in less than 10 minutes without them just full out saying it. Which no one would do something that dumb.

plus about 50% of this says "i think"/"i believe"

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Well to be fair, nobody is ever going to name their sources.

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I am moving this into the general discussion.

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Yeah, I seriously doubt that this is true. Snyder wouldn't be that stupid. It would only further the complaints/fears that some people already have that DC/WB is making Superman look good at the expense of WW. Plus it's just pointless and would severely hamper a potential solo WW movie.

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maybe kara is gaia and dev-em is ares. maybe they boned some humans.

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I don't like it. I prefer that the alien race is different or respecting the true essence of Wony.

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True, but that still doesn't help their credibility. "Sources" could mean the janitor at the WB building that he bumped into that one time for all we know.

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Taking away Wonder Woman's Greek Origins would be like taking away Superman's kryptonian ones.
This. It may even be worse than that, since most of her villains/supporting cast have Greek origins too.

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