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Old 01-11-2014, 03:55 AM   #101
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I see no reason why the Netflix shows wouldn't be connected to the MCU

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I see no reason why the Netflix shows wouldn't be connected to the MCU
But would they be connected to the Avengers or SHIELD? I kinda hope for light references at best. Build a bigger universe, everything relating back to Avengers would make the world seem small to me.

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In terms of characters, I think it would be rather standalone with maybe some references to the Battle of New York and whatever happens in Age of Ultron. but from what people are saying here it seems some don't want it to be set in the MCU at all

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Yea, there's a difference between "existing in the MCU" and "ok, there needs to be an Avengers reference every 2 minutes". I'm pretty sure that with respect to the Netfilx shows, the former is given. But that doesn't mean that they'll have to go out of the way to reference anything and everything Avengers/SHIELD related at every opportunity.

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Yea, there's a difference between "existing in the MCU" and "ok, there needs to be an Avengers reference every 2 minutes". I'm pretty sure that with respect to the Netfilx shows, the former is given. But that doesn't mean that they'll have to go out of the way to reference anything and everything Avengers/SHIELD related at every opportunity.
Yeah, Daredevil, the HFH, and Jessica Jones existed completely independently of the Avengers (pre-Bendis). Similarly, the street level heroes will likely exist in the same film universe, but they'll handle a much lower level of bad guy, just like in the comics. If they were just going to go with Bendis' New Avengers route, why wouldn't they just introduce them in the Avengers movie franchise?

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I'm pretty sure that the Netflix shows will be set in the MCU, but that they'll also be pretty self-contained. AOS seemingly references the Avengers or the greater MCU every five minutes, it's constant. I seriously doubt that the Netflix shows will do that, the references will be there, but much less frequently. I do think that they may crossover with each other, even before the Defenders show. For instance, Luke Cage might pop up in a episode or two of Iron Fist's show and vice versa, to establish their friendship. Luke might also appear in Jessica Jones's show, or she in his, in order to establish that relationship, and some of them might appear in Daredevil's show as well. They might face some of the same villains as well. Also, I'm pretty sure that the Netflix shows will be much darker, gritty, and more "adult," simply because of the characters that they chose and the fact that they're on Netflix (where you can get away with more stuff).

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I think the main connection they could use is "SHIELD providing someone to deliver the odd defeated supervillain to". I wouldn't mind if there were a recurring character across the shows that is basically "SHIELD NYC liason" or somesuch, basically the contact guy any of these heroes would speak to when they need to try and get the metaphorical Feds involved. However, that wouldn't and shouldn't be a regular character.

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Please can we not put 'MCU' and 'Bendis' in the same sentence?

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Oooh imagine an entire film in BendisSpeak!

So, Thor.

Yeah?

You got a magic hammer.

Yeah.

Looks heavy.

It's not, really.

Can I see it?

No.

Why?

You won't be able to lift it.

Really?

Yeah.

Why not?

It's too heavy.

But I thought you said...?

I did.


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El Mayimbe posted on his Twitter...

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But would they be connected to the Avengers or SHIELD? I kinda hope for light references at best. Build a bigger universe, everything relating back to Avengers would make the world seem small to me.
Here is how the Netflix heroes would connect to the MCU without SHIELD and only light references to the Avengers.

- Introduce Jennifer Walters as the attorney opposing Matt Murdoch. Mention her cousin is Bruce Banner but that is it. It's before she becomes She Hulk.
- Misty Knight introduced in Iron Fist right after she gets her bionic arm, made of vibranium by Tony Stark (or at least Stark Industries).

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Yea, there's a difference between "existing in the MCU" and "ok, there needs to be an Avengers reference every 2 minutes". I'm pretty sure that with respect to the Netfilx shows, the former is given. But that doesn't mean that they'll have to go out of the way to reference anything and everything Avengers/SHIELD related at every opportunity.
That's one of my problems with AOS, the constant references to Avengers and/or name drops etc. We get it, we know they share the same universe. We don't need to be reminded every other minute.

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Here is how the Netflix heroes would connect to the MCU without SHIELD and only light references to the Avengers.

- Introduce Jennifer Walters as the attorney opposing Matt Murdoch. Mention her cousin is Bruce Banner but that is it. It's before she becomes She Hulk.
- Misty Knight introduced in Iron Fist right after she gets her bionic arm, made of vibranium by Tony Stark (or at least Stark Industries).
A third way to connect the Netflix heroes to the MCU without using SHIELD or Avengers:

Spoiler!!! Click to Read!:

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Please tell me we get to see Liv Tyler as Betty again.
Could we please stop posting El Maybe "news"

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Please can we not put 'MCU' and 'Bendis' in the same sentence?
Considering that Bendis wrote one of the greatest and most acclaimed Daredevil runs ever, invented Jessica Jones and made her an interesting character in Alias, and made Luke Cage into an A-list character in the MU, I see know reason why he shouldn't be involved in the Netflix stuff. In fact, I WANT him to be involved.

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Or you could introduce the Punisher and mention that he's wanted by SHIELD in passing.

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I want to see Jennifer Lawrence in the MCU! If not will X-Men-Avengers crossover movie then why not get she a MCU role?

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Or you could introduce the Punisher and mention that he's wanted by SHIELD in passing.
I'm not sure that would make sense. SHIELD doesn't overly care about ordinary crime. I could maybe see SHIELD keeping an eye on him for possible use as an unattributable asset, though.

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But would they be connected to the Avengers or SHIELD? I kinda hope for light references at best. Build a bigger universe, everything relating back to Avengers would make the world seem small to me.
I'm hoping the Avengers/SHIELD aren't shoved down the audiences' throats in the shows themselves, but I definitely see Luke, Iron Fist, Jessica & Daredevil being in Avengers 3 (if it has Thanos). The Avengers are going to need everyone possible to try & defeat the Mad Titan, even the little guys.

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I don't know, the way SHIELD has been depicted in the MCU so far, it doesn't really make much sense for them to not have every super powered person on their radar. but I guess I would make sense for the heroes themselves to not work with them.

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