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Old 01-14-2014, 04:09 PM   #101
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^ And that Clark lets Pa die :/

But yeah, I think there are a lot of good ideas that taken out of context would work, but not within the narrative.

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^ And that Clark lets Pa die :/

But yeah, I think there are a lot of good ideas that taken out of context would work, but not within the narrative.
Yeah, Clark trusted his father's opinion of humanity. He had been greatly affected and influenced by his father's fears.

And why didn't you think it worked in the narrative? Just curious.

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I can't take the tornado scene seriously. It was horribly executed in my opinion.

Don't worry, though. I liked MOS.

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Old 01-14-2014, 04:17 PM   #104
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^ Because..it basically turns Clark into "the boyscout" in the wrong way. It's not satisfying to me. I think there could have been better ways to kill off Pa Kent.

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Indeed. I also think it's worth noting what could be coming from Pa Kent's point of view. Pa Kent would rather die then and there instead of letting Clark expose himself to humanity. It makes for a powerful message about human nature and a parent's need to protect a child at all costs. Pa Kent was terrified of what humanity would do to Clark if they new about him. And to be honest, I think he was right. Humans would destroy a creature like Clark if they could. It's bleak, but realistic. I think that's part of the issue some people have with the scene. They don't like what it says about humanity.
I guess we both saw the same scene...

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^ Because..it basically turns Clark into "the boyscout" in the wrong way. It's not satisfying to me. I think there could have been better ways to kill off Pa Kent.
I see. No crime in that. I don't think that everyone who dislikes the scene misunderstood it. It's simply not some people's preference and that's ok.

I guess I liked it because it shows that Clark doesn't help people because he was encouraged to do so. In fact, almost everything that happens in his life, like Pa's death and the bullying he faces, encourages him not to help humanity. But...he still helps them nonetheless. He just can't seem to stop doing it despite all the reasons he could use to justify it.

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^ I like the overcoming adversity part of the overall arc. Just not that one moment.

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I see. No crime in that. I don't think that everyone who dislikes the scene misunderstood it. It's simply not some people's preference and that's ok.

I guess I liked it because it shows that Clark doesn't help people because he was encouraged to do so. In fact, almost everything that happens in his life, like Pa's death and the bullying he faces, encourages him not to help humanity. But...he still helps them nonetheless. He just can't seem to stop doing it despite all the reasons he could use to justify it.
I saw him converting into the boyscout in a real way, but the difference is that just isn't in some people's taste. But that doesn't mean the scene sent a message in a different way.

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Although I dislike the tornado scene, I have bigger problems with Man of Steel.

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I actually loved Man of Steel. I was actually blown away by it. I had a childlike smile on my face almost the entire time. Saw it at Midnight on a legit IMAX with my wife on my honeymoon in Orlando Florida. The theater was completely packed and the crowd was very responsive. They laughed cried cheered and applauded. One of the best theater experiences I've had and I absolutely was satisfied by the film as a lifelong Superman fan. I am so excited with the possibility of a DC film universe springing from it.

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I actually loved Man of Steel. I was actually blown away by it. I had a childlike smile on my face almost the entire time. Saw it at Midnight on a legit IMAX with my wife on my honeymoon in Orlando Florida. The theater was completely packed and the crowd was very responsive. They laughed cried cheered and applauded. One of the best theater experiences I've had and I absolutely was satisfied by the film as a lifelong Superman fan. I am so excited with the possibility of a DC film universe springing from it.
on my theater we had the same experience. Also my feelings went to almost cry 3 times on the movie especially in the emotional scenes.

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I can't take the tornado scene seriously. It was horribly executed in my opinion.

Don't worry, though. I liked MOS.

Completely disagree. When a scene like that is emotional and moving. Than I take it as the scene being well executed.

To each his or her own though. I won't waste time going back and forth with some people for the 100th time. Aiiieeeeee!


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So how much should we trust this theory in the OP?
I think that not only is it a solid theory, but it's most likely the case too.

Considering we still know nothing about this film, and the air-tight secrecy regarding it... I mean, honestly, I don't think we've EVER known THIS little about a film before during the Hype Train.

Also, regarding when we finally get stuff to chew on:

- When do you think we'll get a teaser trailer?
- When will we get an official pic of Affleck in the Batsuit?
- When will we get an official pic of Gadot as Wonder Woman?
- When do we get confirmation on Lex Luthor casting?
- When do we get an official title for the movie?


To me, I feel like a teaser trailer is EASILY six months from now.
Affleck in the Batsuit could be as early as TWO months from now.
I think they're going to hold off on the Wonder Woman reveal for awhile.
Lex Luthor casting is literally any day. It could be tomorrow
The title could be any day too.

All in all, I don't think July 2015 is going to be that daunting, because we're going to have plenty of treats along the way. I hope.

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- When do you think we'll get a teaser trailer?
- When will we get an official pic of Affleck in the Batsuit?
- When will we get an official pic of Gadot as Wonder Woman?
- When do we get confirmation on Lex Luthor casting?
- When do we get an official title for the movie?

I think the teaser trailer will probably be with Jupiter Ascending. Comic-Con is a week before Jupiter Ascending releases, so footage reveal at comic-con followed by the teaser trailer. First proper trailer with Hobbit 3, final trailer with Avengers 2 and Nokia trailer a month before release.

Confirmation of Lex casting, official title and Affleck picture will probably be the same day or same week, probably a week or two before filming.

Picture of Gadot will most likely be before she has her scenes shot, whenever that might be.

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If and if this rumor is true of bvs and jl being filmed back to back , expect bvs ti be delayed by at least one year. Snyder would basically have to work on post prod and filming jl simultaneously in order to make the july 2015 release date for bvs.

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Yeah, Clark trusted his father's opinion of humanity. He had been greatly affected and influenced by his father's fears.

And why didn't you think it worked in the narrative? Just curious.
Personally I thought it was bogus, because Clark should never have let his father go back. He knew at that point that he was essentially invulnerable and couldn't be hurt by the Twister. To let Jonathan go back into an immensely dangerous situation like that when Clark could have gone back to get the dog and then gotten take by the twister. Sure it would have been strange that he survived and people would have asked questions, but it's no stranger than the bus incident and add to that people have in fact survived being pulled into twisters in real life.

I just thought it was silly and contrived when you comapre it to Jonathan dying of a heart attack in the original movie, which serves to show Clark that even though he can move mountains, he can't rely on those powers to save everyone.

But please understand this is one of my few gripes with the movie. I didn't think it was perfect, but I really enjoyed it nonetheless.

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If and if this rumor is true of bvs and jl being filmed back to back , expect bvs ti be delayed by at least one year. Snyder would basically have to work on post prod and filming jl simultaneously in order to make the july 2015 release date for bvs.
No way. WB's got a lot riding on this for a 2015 push. They want to be in the big leagues with Star Wars and Avengers. If they play their cards right, WB might be sitting on the movie of 2015. I mean, THE movie. If the box office shows they had the biggest movie of 2015 against those juggernauts, it will just further cement Justice League for the year after, and will guarantee five DCU movies or more in the future.

Trust me, WB is throwing all of their balls at this thing. They're pulling an all-out assault on the competition. They want 2015. And call me crazy, but it's VERY possible that they'll get it. Star Wars seems to be indicating several concerns as far as screenwriters quitting, release dates being changed to 6 months later, and so on. I'm not fully convinced that Star Wars is such a sure thing yet.

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If and if this rumor is true of bvs and jl being filmed back to back , expect bvs ti be delayed by at least one year. Snyder would basically have to work on post prod and filming jl simultaneously in order to make the july 2015 release date for bvs.
Unless Affleck directs Justice League, or he and Snyder co-direct.

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I expect the teaser with Godzilla, Edge of Tomorrow, or Jupiter Ascending.

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No way. WB's got a lot riding on this for a 2015 push. They want to be in the big leagues with Star Wars and Avengers. If they play their cards right, WB might be sitting on the movie of 2015. I mean, THE movie. If the box office shows they had the biggest movie of 2015 against those juggernauts, it will just further cement Justice League for the year after, and will guarantee five DCU movies or more in the future.

Trust me, WB is throwing all of their balls at this thing. They're pulling an all-out assault on the competition. They want 2015. And call me crazy, but it's VERY possible that they'll get it. Star Wars seems to be indicating several concerns as far as screenwriters quitting, release dates being changed to 6 months later, and so on. I'm not fully convinced that Star Wars is such a sure thing yet.
Hence why i said IF the rumor is true. Above all Wb knows that quality is everything and snyder will have to take his time. He cant handle two projects at the same time in this case post prod on bvs and filming mos. That is why im saying that bvs will need to be delayed for a year if they are shooting the movies back to back.

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Unless Affleck directs Justice League, or he and Snyder co-direct.
There is an option that wb will shoot jl with another director once shooting for bvs wraps. That way snyder can work on bvs and another director ( affleck or for thaf matter anybody else...) shoots the 2nd movie.

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No way. WB's got a lot riding on this for a 2015 push. They want to be in the big leagues with Star Wars and Avengers. If they play their cards right, WB might be sitting on the movie of 2015. I mean, THE movie. If the box office shows they had the biggest movie of 2015 against those juggernauts, it will just further cement Justice League for the year after, and will guarantee five DCU movies or more in the future.

Trust me, WB is throwing all of their balls at this thing. They're pulling an all-out assault on the competition. They want 2015. And call me crazy, but it's VERY possible that they'll get it. Star Wars seems to be indicating several concerns as far as screenwriters quitting, release dates being changed to 6 months later, and so on. I'm not fully convinced that Star Wars is such a sure thing yet.
And with the Hobbit finished this year and no more Harry Potter films, WB needs this.

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I expect the teaser with Godzilla, Edge of Tomorrow, or Jupiter Ascending.
Without footage yeah any of those three will do. With footage expect either interstellar or hobbit to have the teaser with actual footage

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Thinking that we're even closer to Justice League and that all these heroes may actually be in JL only and not in BvS makes me excited. I hope the threat in JL is something big.

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And with the Hobbit finished this year and no more Harry Potter films, WB needs this.
True. However if any of the 2014 blockbusters far exceeds expectations at the boxoffice and again IF this rumor is true , expect wb to release bvs to release in 2016 and either pushing back interstellar or hobbit to july 2015. It happened before. When tdk overperformed wb pushed back harry potter from nov 2008 to july 2009 because they didnt have a sure fire blockbuster summer 2009.

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