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Old 01-19-2014, 05:36 AM   #101
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listen I never talk on hear much anymore but this is the site that gave me access to Dark Knight & other comic book news

I need everyone's help.

I think the delay which sucks and I'm sad about it is a GOOD thing.
Gives more time to polish the script.
more time for the actors to train.
75th Anniversary of Wonder Woman.
2015 was way too crowded.

now with that said, It's funny because all the "haters" seem to like that it got delayed and said that it will get the script better
but I have alot of fans on my facebook who are pissed and saying they don't care anymore and whining.

so anyways I need everyone's help to try to convince these so called "fans" it's a good thing.

I got one guy saying "I'm sick and tired of Marvel getting 4 movies out before DC"
which is true but I have a feeling the audience is getting sick of Marvel style movies.

anyways any thoughts on how I can tell these whinners that 2016 is better for business?

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Old 01-19-2014, 05:47 AM   #102
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If Ben Affleck leaves, who can replace him as Batman?

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Old 01-19-2014, 05:51 AM   #103
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Ryan Gosling was my pick, majority wanted Josh Brolin, the Perfect Choice was Ben Affleck.

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Old 01-19-2014, 06:03 AM   #104
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So either Ryan Gosling or Josh Brolin as the replacement then?

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Old 01-19-2014, 06:13 AM   #105
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no. Ben Affleck lol He's the perfect choice

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Old 01-19-2014, 06:14 AM   #106
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This baffles me.
The Justice League is inherently inferior as a story concept to any of its individual members, as it replaces hero-human interactions with hero-hero interactions.

For an example of BORING, watch the early 2000s Justice League cartoon. It's awful.

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Old 01-19-2014, 06:16 AM   #107
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The Justice League is inherently inferior as a story concept to any of its individual members, as it replaces hero-human interactions with hero-hero interactions.

For an example of BORING, watch the early 2000s Justice League cartoon. It's awful.
You've brought this up several times before and most people disagree with you. It's like the people who hate The Dark Knight, you're not wrong, but you're a tiny majority.

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Old 01-19-2014, 06:18 AM   #108
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I hate to say it but I do agree I was bored with Justice League show. only because I'm a Batman fan and it's weird seeing batman fighting green aliens or time traveling or singing lol it's more cartoony than batman TAS

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Old 01-19-2014, 06:20 AM   #109
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The Justice League is inherently inferior as a story concept to any of its individual members, as it replaces hero-human interactions with hero-hero interactions.

For an example of BORING, watch the early 2000s Justice League cartoon. It's awful.
Sure. But I still can't imagine anyone here not watching the film out of complete disinterest.

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Old 01-19-2014, 06:26 AM   #110
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Sure. But I still can't imagine anyone here not watching the film out of complete disinterest.
I love when people pull the ol' "That's it. I'm done with this movie" or the "If such and such happens/doesn't happen/doesn't look like etc. I will not watch the movie. Maybe one day on TV".

Suuuure.

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Old 01-19-2014, 06:29 AM   #111
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The Justice League is inherently inferior as a story concept to any of its individual members, as it replaces hero-human interactions with hero-hero interactions.

For an example of BORING, watch the early 2000s Justice League cartoon. It's awful.
That doesn't make sense. All interactions are still human - human interactions. Being a hero doesn't make then not human. Heck even Martian Manhunt acts human.

They just need more levity which MOS was seriously lacking.

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Old 01-19-2014, 06:30 AM   #112
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That kind of happened with The Amazing Spider-Man, but most of the people who stopped caring and lost interest in the new one beign a reboot were usually not fanboys and didn't watch the film due to trully losing interest.

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Old 01-19-2014, 06:31 AM   #113
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listen I never talk on hear much anymore but this is the site that gave me access to Dark Knight & other comic book news

I need everyone's help.

I think the delay which sucks and I'm sad about it is a GOOD thing.
Gives more time to polish the script.
more time for the actors to train.
75th Anniversary of Wonder Woman.
2015 was way too crowded.

now with that said, It's funny because all the "haters" seem to like that it got delayed and said that it will get the script better
but I have alot of fans on my facebook who are pissed and saying they don't care anymore and whining.

so anyways I need everyone's help to try to convince these so called "fans" it's a good thing.

I got one guy saying "I'm sick and tired of Marvel getting 4 movies out before DC"
which is true but I have a feeling the audience is getting sick of Marvel style movies.

anyways any thoughts on how I can tell these whinners that 2016 is better for business?
Did you read through the thread? Seems like you have been a member here for a while.

Just on the last page you had a dude break down the positives and negatives of them pushing the film back. Copy and paste that and pass it off as your own if you have to.

Plenty of people here have made rational points as to why the push back isn't the end of the world.

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Old 01-19-2014, 06:38 AM   #114
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well they are upset about Marvel getting more films. It's silly that they think it's a fight but DC isn't even fighting lol It's like some rich boy (Marvel/Disney) wanting to fight a bouncer (DC/WB) at a bar but the bouncer just walks away lol

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Old 01-19-2014, 06:57 AM   #115
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listen I never talk on hear much anymore but this is the site that gave me access to Dark Knight & other comic book news

I need everyone's help.

I think the delay which sucks and I'm sad about it is a GOOD thing.
Gives more time to polish the script.
more time for the actors to train.
75th Anniversary of Wonder Woman.
2015 was way too crowded.

now with that said, It's funny because all the "haters" seem to like that it got delayed and said that it will get the script better
but I have alot of fans on my facebook who are pissed and saying they don't care anymore and whining.

so anyways I need everyone's help to try to convince these so called "fans" it's a good thing.

I got one guy saying "I'm sick and tired of Marvel getting 4 movies out before DC"
which is true but I have a feeling the audience is getting sick of Marvel style movies.

anyways any thoughts on how I can tell these whinners that 2016 is better for business?
First things first. Marvel Studios has properties they OWN, and others they sold to various studios before being bought out by Disney.

So the film rights to Spider-Man, X-men, Fantastic Four, Deadpool, and Elektra are NOT owned by Disney/Marvel.

If we were to cut the Fox/Sony films OUT we'd have about two films a year.

Keep in mind WB has to focus on OTHER properties, while Marvel Studios is ORIENTED over superhero movies.

This isn't to say that live action DC wasn't mishandled or WB WASN'T gun shy, just that WB has to focus on all kinds of movies.

Also, Marvel's created this light "soft" formula, whereas I think WB/DC are still trying to think of where the should go (dark seems to be the default, though).

That being said Superman/Batman BETTER be epic

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Old 01-19-2014, 07:08 AM   #116
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First things first. Marvel Studios has properties they OWN, and others they sold to various studios before being bought out by Disney.

So the film rights to Spider-Man, X-men, Fantastic Four, Deadpool, and Elektra are NOT owned by Disney/Marvel.

If we were to cut the Fox/Sony films OUT we'd have about two films a year.
I'm pretty sure that person understood that, because BVS is two years away and at two films a year Marvel will release Captain America 2, Guardians, Avengers 2 and Ant-Man before BVS.

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Old 01-19-2014, 07:31 AM   #117
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I know Marvel is owned by many properties lol I wish others knew that

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Old 01-19-2014, 07:33 AM   #118
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It's amazing on how the announcement of this film's release date being pushed back has brought out the worst in discussion topics.

Seriously, I don't even remember it being that bad when MOS was announced to be released a year later than intended.

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Old 01-19-2014, 07:33 AM   #119
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Keep in mind WB has to focus on OTHER properties, while Marvel Studios is ORIENTED over superhero movies.

This isn't to say that live action DC wasn't mishandled or WB WASN'T gun shy, just that WB has to focus on all kinds of movies.

So what if "WB" has to focus on other properties? All "WB" has to do is greenlight and bankroll. The actual movie making is left up to the team. What they need to do is hire someone to lead the DC films division and give him ultimate authority. WB isn't thinking ahead. They aren't planning out 6 to 10 yrs for these properties. They have no vision and no commitment to these properties.

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It's amazing on how the announcement of this film's release date being pushed back has brought out the worst in discussion topics.

Seriously, I don't even remember it being that bad when MOS was announced to be released a year later than intended.
When it comes down to it, I think we were ALL on the edge of our seat salivating for some ground-breaking news regarding the movie and felt we were days away from something awesome. Instead, we get the delay and I think fans just exploded all over themselves more of the wait than anything and that's when the negative-nancies need to spin everything in the negative light about it. It'll pass. In the end, I believe there will be a HUGE payoff!

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It's amazing on how the announcement of this film's release date being pushed back has brought out the worst in discussion topics.

Seriously, I don't even remember it being that bad when MOS was announced to be released a year later than intended.
Well you basically have both sides of the issue, as usual ,being either overly optimistic or paralysis level end of the world about the news. Neither side wants to here what the other has to say because it goes against their own beliefs about the project. Going to extremes is kinda the fanboy way, and i've actually seen worse compared to other issues.

I think Campa of AMC movie talk kinda gave the position on this that most resembles my feelings about it: The news aint good, and it kinda highlights WB's troubles with the project, but I'll still look forward to seeing it, assuming it ends happening afterall.

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The Justice League is inherently inferior as a story concept to any of its individual members, as it replaces hero-human interactions with hero-hero interactions.

For an example of BORING, watch the early 2000s Justice League cartoon. It's awful.
I completely disagree.

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Old 01-19-2014, 08:17 AM   #123
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So what if "WB" has to focus on other properties? All "WB" has to do is greenlight and bankroll. The actual movie making is left up to the team. What they need to do is hire someone to lead the DC films division and give him ultimate authority. WB isn't thinking ahead. They aren't planning out 6 to 10 yrs for these properties. They have no vision and no commitment to these properties.
Yeah, because spending however much money it would take to create a new subdivision within WB, after recently re-absorbing New Line Cinema (because they are going more centralised as a studio) and then paying out $600 million a year to keep up with Marvel Studios.

Not to mention, Dune Entertainment is co-financing these flicks to, so they too would have theoretical creative say (whether they choose to wield it is to their discretion).

As well as financing original properties and adaptations.

Yep, easy job. God, they're such morons.

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If Ben Affleck leaves, who can replace him as Batman?
Not that I'm dissing Ben Affleck, but my answer to that...AN UNKNOWN!!!!

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Old 01-19-2014, 08:25 AM   #125
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Question: I saw some posters talkng about who would replace Affleck; is it even a real possibility that Ben would pull out? I mean shooting was just pushed a few weeks, right? After that point, actors go on their merry way to do other projects. The release date was pushed about a year, but that doesnt matter to the actors. Why would Ben even think to drop this covited role? I dont see that happening.

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