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Goyer was as involved with the Dark Knight as Zak Penn was involved in the Avengers.

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If only Goyer could write amazing lines of dialogue like "You know what happens to a toad when it's struck by lightning" and "Look at you. Still all muscly and everything!"

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If only Whedon could direct and write since an amazing and powerful film like Blade 3.

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He did Dollhouse... close enough.

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Still better than Blade 3.

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Goyer was as involved with the Dark Knight as Zak Penn was involved in the Avengers.
go back and read that as the ending of The Dark Knight

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I'm not going to try and argue that Blade 3 is good, because it isn't. At all. But I do think some of you guys nitpick the crap out of Goyer's work just BECAUSE he's Goyer, when you give other writers a pass for turning in similar, sub-par writing.

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So pretty much everyone is capable of good material and bad material and what they don't in the past doesn't matter.

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I'm not going to try and argue that Blade 3 is good, because it isn't. At all. But I do think some of you guys nitpick the crap out of Goyer's work just BECAUSE he's Goyer, when you give other writers a pass for turning in similar, sub-par writing.
Oh yeah, that might be the WORST of Goyer's work.

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I'm not going to try and argue that Blade 3 is good, because it isn't. At all. But I do think some of you guys nitpick the crap out of Goyer's work just BECAUSE he's Goyer, when you give other writers a pass for turning in similar, sub-par writing.
And how would Joss be sub-par? He's writing Cabin In The Woods, Avengers, Toy Story.

I wouldn't give Goyer **** if he did at least one other good project besides Dark City, where he didn't have a Nolan involved.

I may dislike Goyer but let's say both Batfleck and Terrio rewrite the script and Goyer's still involved. I'm fine with that. I won't be mad.

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Oh yeah, that might be the WORST of Goyer's work.
You haven't seen Jumper have you? The worst part is Hayden Christensen is the main ****ing actor which makes the film much more unbearable. It's just...

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And how would Joss be sub-par? He's writing Cabin In The Woods, Avengers, Toy Story.

I wouldn't give Goyer **** if he did at least one other good project besides Dark City, where he didn't have a Nolan involved.

I may dislike Goyer but let's say both Batfleck and Terrio rewrite the script and Goyer's still involved. I'm fine with that. I won't be mad.
Whedon's writing in Dollhouse and X-Men would be sub-par. And I'm not solely talking about Whedon here... there were bad lines and story elements in other CBMs (the Thor films, Captain America: TFA, Iron Man 3) that I don't see get half the crap Goyer gets.

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Y'all just need to relax, google David Goyer, and stare at the sexiness. M'kay?

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Whedon's writing in Dollhouse and X-Men would be sub-par. And I'm not solely talking about Whedon here... there were bad lines and story elements in other CBMs (the Thor films, Captain America: TFA, Iron Man 3) that I don't see get half the crap Goyer gets.
Whedon rewrote X-Men yes but Singer didn't like it. Singer mixed numerous X-Men scripts together.

And name the story elements in Iron Man 3 and Cap. I don't know about Thor because I haven't seen it and never really cared about Thor.

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Whedon rewrote X-Men yes but Singer didn't like it. Singer mixed numerous X-Men scripts together.

And name the story elements in Iron Man 3 and Cap. I don't know about Thor because I haven't seen it and never really cared about Thor.
Whedon's contributions to X-men were whittled down to the Storm line.

However the point is anyone can make a bad or good movie.

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Goyer was as involved with the Dark Knight as Zak Penn was involved in the Avengers.
The last time you lent your behind the scenes insight to these forums it ended up with somewhat of retraction/admission of bs of sorts.
I assume this time you've done some fact checking?

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And how would Joss be sub-par? He's writing Cabin In The Woods, Avengers, Toy Story.

I wouldn't give Goyer **** if he did at least one other good project besides Dark City, where he didn't have a Nolan involved.

I may dislike Goyer but let's say both Batfleck and Terrio rewrite the script and Goyer's still involved. I'm fine with that. I won't be mad.
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Which part did whedon write? This stuff always ends no where imo. (Unless it's a james cameron picture)

Further more, the blade 3 script wasn't technically all that poorly written than the scripts to the previous two films. It was just far more poorly directed and horribly produced. For example there weren't any stories coming out of blade one about the star feeling marginalized by the premise and threatening the directors life and refusing to work.....just saying.
I don't think the Avengers script is some work of art either, just a good time on film. The character development alone...safe to say toy story does a better job at such things.

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Whedon's contributions to X-men were whittled down to the Storm line.

However the point is anyone can make a bad or good movie.
So all he got credit for was one line in the film? I thought he did more than that. Not much more but just one line?

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See, the thing is, I have a hard time trying to understand on why people had issues with the amount of destruction presented in "Man of Steel".

It wouldn't be realistic, imho, to think that an invading Alien race with two weapons of mass destruction could create anything less of the chaos that we saw in the film.

I mean, it happens all the time within the comics, and in other mediums... and yet people had issues with MOS because of the destruction?

What do they honestly expect to happen when you have two super powered beings going at it within a city a like Metropolis?
Personally, I don't have a problem with them depicting it per se, but I think that many times they don't respect the trauma that would come with something like that...much of which we're familiar with in real life in recent decades. It's like if you wrote in the death of a child for the sake of a huge turning point in the pot. I just think that filmmakers need to take a bit more responsibility to not be too blasť with things like this, even in a fanstasy/adventure. It's closer to home than it used to be.

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Whedon rewrote X-Men yes but Singer didn't like it. Singer mixed numerous X-Men scripts together.

And name the story elements in Iron Man 3 and Cap. I don't know about Thor because I haven't seen it and never really cared about Thor.

Off the top of my head...

Iron Man 3: Maybe I need to see it again, but the whole Extremis thing had a lot of holes in terms of how powerful these guys were or specifically WHAT their powers exactly were. Killian breathing fire was like, WTF? Especially since he never proceeded to use that power again.

Cap: Look, I liked this movie but there are a lot of little things like the bomb/plane things at the end on the Red Skull's plane... why were the cities they were going hit written out in English on a German plane? I also thought they could have come up with a better way for Cap to be cryogenically frozen all those years than by just having him crash a plane in the arctic. Just using the "super soldier serum" excuse there is pretty weak. They never said it would make him immune to freezing to death.

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The last time you lent your behind the scenes insight to these forums it ended up with somewhat of retraction/admission of bs of sorts.
I assume this time you've done some fact checking?



Toy Story Writing Credits
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Pete Docter ... (original story by) and
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Joe Ranft ... (original story by)

Joss Whedon ... (screenplay) and
Andrew Stanton ... (screenplay) and
Joel Cohen ... (screenplay) &
Alec Sokolow ... (screenplay)


Which part did whedon write? This stuff always ends no where imo. (Unless it's a james cameron picture)

Further more, the blade 3 script wasn't technically all that poorly written than the scripts to the previous two films. It was j
ust far more poorly directed and horribly produced. For example there weren't any stories coming out of blade one about the star feeling marginalized by the premise and threatening the directors life and refusing to work.....just saying.
I don't think the Avengers script is some work of art either, just a good time on film. The character development alone...safe to say toy story does a better job at such things.
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