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Old 01-26-2014, 02:22 PM   #101
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I hate that! It's okay to show sex in movies, but taking a crap? No way... I want to see John McClane sit on the toilet with a red, sweaty face.
Ha ha wasn't Danny Glover taking a crap in one of the Lethal Weapon movies?

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Again you say it's not that serious, yet you keep trying to think of ways to change what is already done. So it obviously is that serious.

Plus I highly doubt the audience in the theater would be on the edge of their seat to see that at the end. Omgggggg thank GOD he payed that family back for the clothes. It was bothering me the entire film is something you won't hear any fans say. Except for some of you here of course hahaha. So ridiculous.
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^ @Poni_Boy This. I want MOS2 to be a more Earth-based warm, contemplative, character-driven movie. And I want Wonder Woman and Batman to be an extension of Clark's story. That is, Bruce being skeptical of Supes, with Diana being more trusting, but each trying to discover what they can about him as a character.

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People defend stealing in order to defend Clark's characterization in MOS? Damn.

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I want to extend my apologies for destroying your Predator drone aircraft. Although I consider my privacy of the utmost importance, I realize that taxpayer money pays for valuable military equipment such as this.

As a token of my appreciation for those who protect our fine country with their lives, and the expense and inconvenience I've caused you....I've included a set of winter clothes with this letter. Hopefully they'll bring you the kind of warmth and comfort they once brought me.


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The difference is "petty" Peter Parker (say that five times fast) learned from his selfish action which lead to his uncle's death, which is addressed by him becoming Spider-Man. There's no similar resolution to Clark's stealing clothes or destroying that guy's truck. Those things were written to happen as an aside which, for me, meant they feel there's nothing to learn from those moments. He just did petty, selfish things and and there's no proof he learned from them/changed. Hopefully moments like those are excluded from the sequel.
Those moments were meant to be comical, especially the truck scene. It doesn't show him as being petty. Petty was the trucker grabbing the girl's ass, splashing beer in Clark's face, & throwing a can at him when he opted to walk away.

That's petty.

Comparing that to the fact that he ultimately saved the world...I'd say it's not a big deal at all.

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Depends where you go. I've lived in small towns and big cities and across the board I've witnessed people doing good things for others without asking questions. Giving someone a clothing included. So, no, it's not unrealistic by any means.
While it is not unrealistic, the frequency of that happening is not as often as in previous generations, mainly because of the change in thinking. Having said that, I highly doubt people wouldn't be suspicious of Clark's appearance (right after the oil rig scene).

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Ha ha wasn't Danny Glover taking a crap in one of the Lethal Weapon movies?
Yeah, but there was a bomb in the toilet. I want unnecessary toilet scenes! And people should make top ten lists.

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I have a similar reaction to TASM that my friends had with MOS. After seeing it the first time I loved it (flaws and all) but after subsequent viewings I liked it less and less. Now I'm at the point I'm not really looking forward to the sequel
I have many problems but will only get into a few of them.

Lizard's Plan and Lizard/Connors as a whole:

Connors is suppose to be a sympathic villain in Spidey's rogues. He has a family and he's doing this for all the right reasons but this Connors just sucks. We don't see him with his family at all, he's obsessed with lizards which I don't get why Peter didn't pick up on that. It's just bad.

And his plan is to turn everyone into Lizards. Hell, Zod's plan in Man of Steel may have been bad. Zod could have done that on any other planet but after a couple hours, the Earth's atmosphere won't terrform back into it's original thing with those world engines. I mean after a couple hours of Lizard spraying Lizard gas over the city, you would change back to a human. It's a worse plan than Mr Freeze's in Batman & Robin.

Spider-Man's a dick.

If you see the movie, you know what I mean. I don't mind comedy with Spidey but there's a difference between saying punchlines to criminals and ****ing around with a criminal for 5 minutes after he's defeated.

The movie is boring and has no epicness.

The movie as a whole is just boring. There is nothing in this film that I haven't seen in the other Spidey films before. Sure Gwen and webshooters but just because your faithful to the comics doesn't mean it's a good movie.

Also it didn't have the epicness the Raimi film had. Look at scenes like when Uncle Ben dies to Peter beating the guy in the warehouse. Look at scenes like the Time Square Balloon thing. Look at the MJ kiss or the Bridge scene or the old school fight at the end between Spidey and Goblin where Spidey is getting his ass kicked. TASM, had nothing epic.

That film pisses me the **** off.

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As much as I agree with you, I think 'people' would have indeed thought the film better had they done that. Would have had some people clapping. Mark Waid leading the charge.
"Zack Get's it...Zack get's us" they might say.
Speaking of the public, the second time I saw MOS was in a theater packed with regular moviegoers. There were two reactions that really stood out to me: People laughed really hard at the "I think he's kind of hot" line and people literally stood up and cheered when he broke Zod's neck.

Did any of you guys get the same reaction?

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People defend stealing in order to defend Clark's characterization in MOS? Damn.
I don't like it either, but within the confines of the Goyerverse in terms of realism, I accept it.

Like Batman being vulnerable against dogs, for example.

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People can't accept anything less than sainthood in a superman movie(all of a sudden). It's pretty crazy imo.

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Speaking of the public, the second time I saw MOS was in a theater packed with regular moviegoers. There were two reactions that really stood out to me: People laughed really hard at the "I think he's kind of hot" line and people literally stood up and cheered when he broke Zod's neck.

Did any of you guys get the same reaction?
My audience laughed at some of the points, like the hot line as you said, and when Clark destroyed the truck.

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Speaking of the public, the second time I saw MOS was in a theater packed with regular moviegoers. There were two reactions that really stood out to me: People laughed really hard at the "I think he's kind of hot" line and people literally stood up and cheered when he broke Zod's neck.

Did any of you guys get the same reaction?
Same reactions all 3 times I saw it, once at Midnight, once on Saturday and once a week later.

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Those moments were meant to be comical, especially the truck scene. It doesn't show him as being petty. Petty was the trucker grabbing the girl's ass, splashing beer in Clark's face, & throwing a can at him when he opted to walk away.

That's petty.
Sure, that's petty too. But destroying a guy's livelihood because you want revenge from being insulted is moreso. Which is sad to me. I don't like or want a vengeful Superman

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I have many problems but will only get into a few of them.

Lizard's Plan and Lizard/Connors as a whole:

Connors is suppose to be a sympathic villain in Spidey's rogues. He has a family and he's doing this for all the right reasons but this Connors just sucks. We don't see him with his family at all, he's obsessed with lizards which I don't get why Peter didn't pick up on that. It's just bad.

And his plan is to turn everyone into Lizards. Hell, Zod's plan in Man of Steel may have been bad. Zod could have done that on any other planet but after a couple hours, the Earth's atmosphere won't terrform back into it's original thing with those world engines. I mean after a couple hours of Lizard spraying Lizard gas over the city, you would change back to a human. It's a worse plan than Mr Freeze's in Batman & Robin.

Spider-Man's a dick.

If you see the movie, you know what I mean. I don't mind comedy with Spidey but there's a difference between saying punchlines to criminals and ****ing around with a criminal for 5 minutes after he's defeated.

The movie is boring and has no epicness.

The movie as a whole is just boring. There is nothing in this film that I haven't seen in the other Spidey films before. Sure Gwen and webshooters but just because your faithful to the comics doesn't mean it's a good movie.

Also it didn't have the epicness the Raimi film had. Look at scenes like when Uncle Ben dies to Peter beating the guy in the warehouse. Look at scenes like the Time Square Balloon thing. Look at the MJ kiss or the Bridge scene or the old school fight at the end between Spidey and Goblin where Spidey is getting his ass kicked. TASM, had nothing epic.

That film pisses me the **** off.
The Raimi films are chock full of worse instances....like Spider-Man killing the guy who murdered Uncle Ben, Doc Ock's so called "plan" to finish his experiment & what not even though doing so would mean nothing since he's a criminal, etc.

All in all, I still prefer TASM to the first three Raimi films. Don't get me wrong, I grew up on them & still love them, but TASM isn't the only one guilty of making Spider-Man look like a dick or not feeling "epic."

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I don't like it either, but within the confines of the Goyerverse in terms of realism, I accept it.

Like Batman being vulnerable against dogs, for example.
I don't think anyone has a problem with accepting it. It happened. They just don't like it or whatever.

But, I think we can all agree seeing Batman taken down by some dogs was kinda lame.

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Not really. They just expect that Clark is a nice guy and a nice guy wouldn't steal. So, it bothers people.

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Same reactions all 3 times I saw it, once at Midnight, once on Saturday and once a week later.
That kind of freaked me out, especially the loud cheering with the Zod thing. Moviegoers really, really seem to like that part. Which goes counter to why I thought it was written like that (as a tragic moment)

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I really think Returns caused this. Some fans saw Returns (and the whole Jason debacle) and made a subconscious vow along these lines: "Clark should NEVER do ANYTHING wrong in the next Superman movie!"

Needless to say, that made it kind of impossible for any new Superman film to live up to.

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