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Old 02-03-2014, 02:05 PM   #26
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I really want the Inhumans to be Marvel's X-Men. MAKE IT HAPPEN.

Also, does anyone else think it's Bucky that's saying "Captain America needs my help" in the trailer? The voice sounds different from Mackie's, who we see talk immediately after.

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Just wanted to drop in to say that I love the Super Bowl trailer!

Let's hope this isn't Another "Thor: The Dark World".

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I really hope we some some Shield characters even if they are non speaking.

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Just wanted to drop in to say that I love the Super Bowl trailer!

Let's hope this isn't Another "Thor: The Dark World".
I doubt that this film will be like Thor 2 because this film doesn't have a Darcy Lewis.

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it sounds like either...

A. "Mutants" exist in the MCU (in that they are humans with naturally-occuring gene mutations that give them powers), but are referred to as something else, like "Gifted"?
This option has already been proven to be the case for the MCU because in Agents of SHIELD the Scorch character had naturally occurring powers that just activated for him one day.

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And wasn't the term "registered gifted" supposed to be used on AoS?

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I never want to see House of M adapted. Isn't that when Wanda said ,"No more mutants"?

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And wasn't the term "registered gifted" supposed to be used on AoS?
Yup, sure was.

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Perhaps they are being studied and experimented on and the "cold opening" of Avengers Age of Ultron is their rescue/escape.

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I never want to see House of M adapted. Isn't that when Wanda said ,"No more mutants"?
at the end of it, yes. which brought on Decimation (majority of the mutants in the Marvel universe lost their powers)

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at the end of it, yes. which brought on Decimation
Did the mutants get wiped out or they just lost all their powers? Can't remember.

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Did the mutants get wiped out or they just lost all their powers? Can't remember.
Most mutant's powers were just taken away, so they became baseline human. But there were a few mutants that retained their active mutation and powers even after Wanda did her thing.

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Most mutant's powers were just taken away, so they became baseline human. But there were a few mutants that retained their active mutation and powers even after Wanda did her thing.
Hated House of M to be honest. It was ********.!

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Also, does anyone else think it's Bucky that's saying "Captain America needs my help" in the trailer? The voice sounds different from Mackie's, who we see talk immediately after.
That sounds like Mackie to me, I don't know how many films you've seen with him but the way he says 'needs' sounds like a Mackie for sure. But anyways, he's probably saying this to some close friend, his mother, or whoever he's trying to persuade before donning his gear and trying to jump into the fight. My 2 cents at least

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Did the mutants get wiped out or they just lost all their powers? Can't remember.
most just lost there powers, but several died... some because it was there powers keeping them alive (ex if you were mid flight, you fell to your death. ) while others couldn't cope or believe they lost their powers.. and died hoping they'd kick in.

one student, Wither, nearly killed his love, because he was so excited to be able to touch someone, but his power was not gone, and she nearly lost an arm because of it..

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Hated House of M to be honest. It was ********.!
House of M and Decimation weren't the same thing.

House of M was an alternate reality where Wanda gave all those she loved everything they ever wanted... Genosha was restored, and Magneto and his family ruled it. The X-men were basically SHIELD, Wolverine got his memories back, Spider-Man never lost Gwen, and married her and had a kid with her, etc...

then some bizzarre stuff, like Hulk was in Australia, the Fantastic Four never happened and were replaced by the Fearsome 4 (Doom, his wife, son, and a bizarre sad and enslaved Thing)

tony had some sort of Gundam armor, and the Marvel Knights along with Wolverine lead a rebellion against magneto. As there minds were "unlocked" (by Layla Miller) they started to go after Wanda instead.

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That "No more mutants" crap was done to get rid of the smellier turd that was the "mutant baby boom". You can thank the crackhead Morrison for that fiasco.

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That "No more mutants" crap was done to get rid of the smellier turd that was the "mutant baby boom". You can thank the crackhead Morrison for that fiasco.
yeah, there were just too many mutants for such an outcast-ed society.

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I liked Morisson's run. Was unique and interesting the way he portrayed being a mutant as some kind of sub-culture. It actually grew the X-Men brand, made it something other than the same old same old outcasts fighting to save people that hate them. Then Bendis and Quesada came along and chopped it down with their garbage events and now the X-Men are just stuck in the same status quo as they were since their inception.

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yeah, there were just too many mutants for such an outcast-ed society.
You'd think it was obvious that you couldn't do it, right? That, and cat-Beast and the stupid cliche that was Cassandra Nova and Xorn... That's what happens when editors don't do their job and let doped out "writers" do what they want because 'they don't want to stifle their creativity' .

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I liked Morisson's run. Was unique and interesting the way he portrayed being a mutant as some kind of sub-culture.
Mutants were already a sub-culture. What he did was make a genetic rarity into an everyday occurrence. In essence, he made them mundane.
Quesada was already trying to destroy the X-Men before Morrison came in (he had said in interviews he didn't like the X-Books). I firmly believe he allowed Morrison to do what he did in order to sink the X-books so he could elevate others he liked better.

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Hmm...the trailer seemed to suggest that Cap might be rebelling from SHIELD and i don't think i like that idea.

I quite like the idea of superheroes in service of the U.S millitary like the way it was in the Ultimates comics.

That said, the new trailer was freaking'amazing!

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But whether you like Morisson's work or not, which is fine either way, I don't think he'd purposefully ruin it. I think he just brought some unique ideas to the table. Obviously unique ideas are usually polarizing and divisive, that's understandable.

I think Decimation and House of M was Bendis and Quesada destroying the X-Men brand. Not Morisson's run.

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No, Morrison wasn't purposefully trying to ruin the books, he was just doing his thing. It was up to the chief editors to pull the reins in, which they didn't.
I'm just not a fan of Morrison's ideas.

edit: Decimation was a necessity because you could not have the x-gene be as widespread as Morrison and that other guy (I forget his name, the one that gave Kurt 2 penises) made it.

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Morrison work on the X men laid the foundation, though. He may have unique ideas for the franchise back then, but even if ideas are good, it doesn't always means that they should be implemented.

More recent examples, what Marvel done with Wolverine. Him being the headmaster,Might be a good idea on paper, but ultimately it was very detrimental for the character.

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