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Old 04-09-2014, 06:01 PM   #276
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Old 04-10-2014, 03:55 AM   #277
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I also like aou to portray steve as the real leader. I may offend alot here on this forum. But I feel that steve did not really earn the respect s from his teammates fully in A1. Ok they did follow his order willingly in the final battle.but we needed more in AOU.

TWS movie on the other hand shows that side of steve!! Him really commanding and giving the order!!

And that speech about the high price of freedom!! Just great stuff


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Old 04-10-2014, 06:43 AM   #278
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I also like aou to portray steve as the real leader. I may offend alot here on this forum. But I feel that steve did not really earn the respect s from his teammates fully in A1. Ok they did follow his order willingly in the final battle.but we needed more in AOU.

TWS movie on the other hand shows that side of steve!! Him really commanding and giving the order!!

And that speech about the high price of freedom!! Just great stuff
There was definitely a disrespect going on towards Cap in A1 from Tony who thought he was a star spangled goofball. All he did was crack jokes on him and make him look like an idiot.

I think in A2 Steve will show himself to be even more of a leader than Iron Man and get the respect he deserves, esp after TWS.

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Old 04-10-2014, 07:41 AM   #279
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Honestly I think iron man respects cap already, admits to loki that he's a living legend that kinda lives up to the legend. I think after the battle of new york there's no way any of them don't respect each other.
but I would really like if cap is the leader here.

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Old 04-10-2014, 08:09 AM   #280
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cap needs to be like in the comics!! a clear leader from the outset..he should be the one leading the battle!! kinda like CAP in TWS.

There is one scene in TWS where falcon say "if captain America need your help , you help " I want something like that. I want them rest of the team to be like falcon. you can tell falcon totally respect cap and will do anything to help him.

haha I may be asking too much I'm just such a big fan of cap.

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Honestly I think iron man respects cap already, admits to loki that he's a living legend that kinda lives up to the legend. I think after the battle of new york there's no way any of them don't respect each other.
but I would really like if cap is the leader here.
True by the end Tony gave Cap props. So I think that dynamic has changed between them. We'll see what its like in A2. I say Cap will be more a clear leader who they all respect, much moreso than in A1.

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Apparently he's the co-leader in A2.

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Old 04-10-2014, 09:46 AM   #283
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Apparently he's the co-leader in A2.
Do you have a source/article link for this info? I'm now in full-on AoU mode!

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Old 04-10-2014, 09:50 AM   #284
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Steve and Tony should be co leads, just as in the comics. Steve will probably, and should, acknowledge that Tony was right in Avengers 1, more so than just not trusting Fury about phase two, but trusting shield on a general level. Tony was right even more than he knew. And Tony should extremely shocked and in awe of Cap for doing something Tony couldn't do, bring down Shield and expose it for what it is. Now that they know Hydra is behind pretty much everything, and since Hydra took out Howard Stark and Sterns was Hydra, there's a huge reason for the characters to unite and lead.

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Hmm...Co-leading!! It is interesting how two very different person can Co lead a team. .looking forward to A 2!!!

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Hmm...Co-leading!! It is interesting how two very different person can Co lead a team. .looking forward to A 2!!!
Accurate to the Avengers comics especially the early ones.

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Old 04-10-2014, 11:17 AM   #288
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Whedon is gonna have a hard time balancing everyone screen time

i wonder how long the movie will be. I know it's early days. But I think it will be more than 2 1/2 hours

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Steve and Tony should be co leads, just as in the comics. Steve will probably, and should, acknowledge that Tony was right in Avengers 1, more so than just not trusting Fury about phase two, but trusting shield on a general level. Tony was right even more than he knew. And Tony should extremely shocked and in awe of Cap for doing something Tony couldn't do, bring down Shield and expose it for what it is. Now that they know Hydra is behind pretty much everything, and since Hydra took out Howard Stark and Sterns was Hydra, there's a huge reason for the characters to unite and lead.
You said it! Tony WAS right about not trusting SHIELD/US Govt from the beginning. Makes the current shakeup even more resonant.

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Steve and Tony should be co leads, just as in the comics. Steve will probably, and should, acknowledge that Tony was right in Avengers 1, more so than just not trusting Fury about phase two, but trusting shield on a general level. Tony was right even more than he knew. And Tony should extremely shocked and in awe of Cap for doing something Tony couldn't do, bring down Shield and expose it for what it is. Now that they know Hydra is behind pretty much everything, and since Hydra took out Howard Stark and Sterns was Hydra, there's a huge reason for the characters to unite and lead.
I just rewatch A1..actually steve was very skeptical too.. not just tony. Remember he went to some storage room and found hydra stuff?

If u notice.steve was very wary of how easily loki was captured. He knows it should not be so easy.

No wonder they are leaders! They forsee problems ahead!

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"Joss Whedon is writing furiously to get that finished" — but he added that fans can expect to see Iron Man "leading the team with Captain America," and to even anticipate a connection between Stark and Ultron."


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Not only did Tony give Cap props during his confrontation with Loki, but he also took orders from Cap during the final battle. And given Tony's arrogance and complete disdain for authority, he doesn't take orders from anyone that he doesn't respect A LOT. Also, Thor (an ancient god who's both much more powerful and has much more combat experience than Cap) and Hulk (a rampaging rage monster) also took orders from Cap.

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Old 04-10-2014, 12:25 PM   #293
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It makes bit of sense too just in case Cap dips out and Bucky does pick up that shield. He'll need time to adjust in the role as he did in the comics. With Stark already being an established leader , it helps in that case.

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We all knew Cap is great. He was a little shaky throughout A1 but by the end he was starting to get into his "Avengers Assemble" mode. Now after TWS he is back with a vengeance. AOU will be The Return of Kickass Cap!

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I just rewatch A1..actually steve was very skeptical too.. not just tony. Remember he went to some storage room and found hydra stuff?

If u notice.steve was very wary of how easily loki was captured. He knows it should not be so easy.

No wonder they are leaders! They forsee problems ahead!
Steve didn't start getting suspicious of SHIELD until both Tony and Banner brought up how shady that Fury was acting. As for Loki, well it doesn't take a genius to notice how his capture was way too easy.

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Old 04-10-2014, 01:40 PM   #296
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tony is the one who bought it up..banner did not really want to comment on that until cap insist he does!

Well, it does not take a genius to notice his capture was way too easy. but steve is the only way who comments on the capture being too easy.

perhaps fury too..he say something like " why do i feel that he (loki) is the only one who want to be on this boat "

haha. yes he did refer the helicarrier as a boat..that cracks me up.


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D'Esposito clarified that the "Age of Ultron" screenplay remains in development — "Joss Whedon is writing furiously to get that finished" — but he added that fans can expect to see Iron Man "leading the team with Captain America," and to even anticipate a connection between Stark and Ultron.
Well that's accurate to the early comics, then Cap took over as primary leader and has been ever since.

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Old 04-11-2014, 03:27 AM   #298
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Think we'll finally hear Cap say "Avengers assemble!" in AoU?

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I think they should bring in the people who did the fight choreography from TWS just to make sure CA isn't depowered. With this being such an ensemble cast and limited time for each person to make an impact, I could easily see CA being pushed to the side. I'm just hoping the script is as good as everyone says it is and everyone gets a chance to shine.
The TWS fight coordinators could not only keep Cap at the top of his game, they could transform Thor into the warrior he should be, too. We shouldn't see anything as poorly-staged and shot as the Thor/Loki fight from the end of TA in AOU. Thor should never get owned by a lesser opponent like that and he ought to have better technique.

As for Captain America, if he isn't the ass-kicking force of nature that he was in TWS I will be well and truly pissed. He needs not only his immense skills and strength but also that confident swagger he possessed when squaring off against Batroc and the SHIELD Strike team in the elevator. This is a man who can brutally take down a dozen opponents with one hand literally chained to a ceiling. He should operate at that level in every appearance from now on.

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I think the trick to these movies is showcasing the heroes in sequences where they get to do their thing best. Cap cant fly around etc so hes got to be on the ground taking out villains and so on.

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