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Old 02-28-2014, 04:14 AM   #26
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it's a shame that they aren't using Advanced Idea Mechanics. it would be very topical because of the comics.

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I am sure its already been said, but I think he will be playing a young Hank Pym in the flashbacks, with the possibility for a spin off movie to come. They said they wanted him for a Leading Man part I think.


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I am sure its already been said, but I think he will be playing a young Hank Pym in the flashbacks, with the possibility for a spin off movie to come. They said they wanted him for a Leading Man part I think.
They don't really look alike at all.

However, if Paul Newman were still alive and a bit younger, he could've played Hank Pym instead of Douglas. Wilson kind of looks like a young Newman.

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villain maybe? he doesn't exactly resemble Michael Douglas; not that it's a deal breaker. but i'm guessing villain since he doesn't get to play that role very often.
I love the idea of him being the villain! Wilson is one of my favorite actors and it would be so awesome to see him as a villain!

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Stop trying to make Patrick Wilson as Pym happen. Its not going to happen.

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Old 02-28-2014, 06:21 PM   #32
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Stop trying to make Patrick Wilson as Pym happen. Its not going to happen.
y'never know. it could happen. they do have similar chins. i'd say that it's as likely as Nikolaj Coster-Waldau being cast as Doctor Strange, at this point.

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For me, Wilson is one of those actors that has been good in every role I have seen him in, I have become a fan of his after seeing him in Hard Candy, Watchmen, The A-Team and Prometheus, so I am glad he is in the movie.

This is shaping up to be a very, VERY good cast.

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I love the idea of him being the villain! Wilson is one of my favorite actors and it would be so awesome to see him as a villain!
i'm getting a sort of Aldrich Killian vibe from him. i wonder what type of villain he'd play. his character in Hard Candy seemed like someone that Ant-Man would probably want to put down.

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They don't really look alike at all.

However, if Paul Newman were still alive and a bit younger, he could've played Hank Pym instead of Douglas. Wilson kind of looks like a young Newman.
What I meant is that I think if he was playing young Hank Pym, he looks close enough (plus a wig maybe) to look like he could have aged into Michael Douglas. So he could possibly play a young Hank Pym. Plus it gives them an opportunity to make a spin off movie with a big star for a young Hank Pym if they are able to.

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What I meant is that I think if he was playing young Hank Pym, he looks close enough (plus a wig maybe) to look like he could have aged into Michael Douglas. So he could possibly play a young Hank Pym. Plus it gives them an opportunity to make a spin off movie with a big star for a young Hank Pym if they are able to.
i don't know if they'd do spinoff. but they could pick up with an ant-man story from the past for Ant-Man 2. or he could appear in the flashbacks of other marvel properties i.e. running afoul of the Winter Soldier or meeting with Howard Stark. he could also easily be one-shot material. they could use Wilson to fill in a lot of the Marvel Universe's past (in between Captain America being frozen and the Hulk showing up).

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Old 02-28-2014, 11:12 PM   #37
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Why would they cast an actor like patrick wilson(who in no way resembles Michael Douglas) to play Hank Pym in a less than 10 minute prologue? It doesn't make any sense.

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They do it all the time in TV and movies, cast an actor who looks enough like the older actor for flashback scenes and depending on how much you need them a good actor too.




















I am not saying I know for sure, but I am saying I can defiantly see that as being a
big possibility and I am OK with it.


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BUT.... and its a BIG BUT... he doesn't resemble Michael Douglas at all. And we wouldn't know about it this early if it was just a small role. Also, its 2014, technology exists that can make Michael Douglas look young, relatively cheap considering its only going to be a less than 10 minute sequence and the stunt person will likely be wearing a mask for most of it.

The only reason people are thinking he's young Pym is because they were so set on him being cast as Hank before knowing it was Michael Douglas.

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Just for fun.

The reason I could see it is because they mentioned something about needing him for another leading man part. So maybe they want him for a Young Hank Pym leaving them the option of casting him as the star of a young Hank Pym spin off or something. That way they wouldn't have to CG a young Douglas the entire movie.
But, like you said, still so early in the process we have no clue. I am just saying I'd be fine with Wilson as a young Hank Pym because I'd like to see more about Hank Pym's past. His mental instability, his schizophrenia, his constant costume changes alerting others of problems, etc.
The examples I posted some of them don't really look all that much alike, they were usually cast for the acting ability and because they looked enough like the other actor to pull it off.

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Old 03-01-2014, 12:39 AM   #41
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The problem with that photoshop is that, thats not his actual jawline. And his eyes don't look anything like Michael Douglas.

Also, I don't expect any Ant-man spin offs. As important Ant-man is to the Marvel universe, he just doesn't have what it takes to be a long running franchise. I expect this to be a one off to introduce people to Pym and Lang, and have Lang show up in the Avengers 3.

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I am not saying I know for sure, or demand it, I agree that its too soon to tell and we don't have a clue who Wilson could be playing right now. They can do a lot with computers these days, like you said. They could add prosthetics, or CG him to look more like a young Douglas. Who knows. Maybe Wilson will be Egg Head or the guy who steals Lang's daughter. Or Mr. Van Dyne, Janet's father. Who really knows, besides the people who wrote the script, the casting people, etc. heh.

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Like you said, they can de-age Douglas, they have the technology.

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Why waste Patrick Wilson on something like that though? I'm thinking he's going to be the villain, not just a glorified body double.

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I read a news article about it, one of many, and it said "Itís not immediately clear which side Wilsonís character will be on, though Marvel has been searching for another charismatic leading man, a description that fits Wilson." Which is what made me think he could be cast as a young Pym because he is a leading man type and maybe that is what they meant.
Or perhaps the writer meant Marvel is looking for another leading character like who should play Dr. Strange or Blackbolt. But maybe it meant in the same movie or a spin off.

Either way I am interested to find out who he will play, and I will be fine if he is young Hank or someone else. But in a movie with Scott Lang as the main character, and older Hank Pym as a sort of also main character, and possibly Evangiline Lilly as another star, who could Wilson be who would also be a starring role?

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The only reason people are thinking he's young Pym is because they were so set on him being cast as Hank before knowing it was Michael Douglas.
since I never wanted Wilson as Pym I can't say this is true. At least for me. The reason why I think he might be young Pym is the very vague description of the role they cast him in by Variety

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Yeah, that gives away a lot.

Usually, when Marvel casts a movie, it goes "LEAD" "Co-lead" "Villain" and then everybody else. I'm almost certain he's going to be the villain and its BAFFLING to me that people keep holding onto hope that he's a body double.

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You mean this line?

or this one from Deadline?

Yeah, that gives away a lot.

Usually, when Marvel casts a movie, it goes "LEAD" "Co-lead" "Villain" and then everybody else. I'm almost certain he's going to be the villain and its BAFFLING to me that people keep holding onto hope that he's a body double.
Dude, Six, people just like to speculate for fun sometimes. It's their prerogative. Why are you so up in arms about other people's ideas? Some think its a possibility that he's a young Pym, you don't. Time will tell.

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You mean this line?

or this one from Deadline?

Yeah, that gives away a lot.

Usually, when Marvel casts a movie, it goes "LEAD" "Co-lead" "Villain" and then everybody else. I'm almost certain he's going to be the villain and its BAFFLING to me that people keep holding onto hope that he's a body double.
1.) no, not those lines
2.) is it?, because I can't remember one MS movie where the cast was announced in that order.
3.) how can you be certain about stuff that sites like Variety or Deadline are unsure about, do you have insider knowledge? if not, you're speculating like the rest of us.
4.) what has hope got to do with it?
5.) who said anything about body doubles?

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Wilson would need a dimple in his chin if he were to be the young Michael Douglas. As I said before, Wilson looks more like the young Paul Newman. I can't think off hand which younger actor looks like Douglas. I used to think Fisher Stevens (Short Circuit) looked a bit like him when he was younger (even though his neck seems too thin for his head), but he's too old now.

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As I said before, Wilson looks more like the young Paul Newman.
I don't see that resemblance

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