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Old 03-17-2014, 09:04 AM   #26
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Old 03-17-2014, 09:05 AM   #27
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How many times can they delay this up until the rights revert I wonder
They haveyo film this year. Presumably, there are six months (October of this year, just like DD expired in October of 2012) until the rights expire.


They HAVE to begin filming by then.

And honestly, if they scrap this, it probably won't happen.

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Yeah, I'm just worried that if Pan of Steel isn't widely accepted by the audience and critics, they might try to shoehorn Pinocchio into the sequel, and we all know how long Hollywood has been trying to do a 'Pan vs Pinocchio' team up movie.
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Old 03-17-2014, 09:06 AM   #28
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I'm thinking the same, that we're looking at something in the 7-8 year range. Elektra, for instance, was released in 2005, and that reset the clock on the Daredevil rights, which ultimately expired in 2012, so that was about 7 1/2 years. So mid 2015 would probably be the latest for Fox to put out a new Fantastic Four movie.

I sincerely hope this film falls through, though. I want this franchise in the MCU. It's just not as good as it can be on its own. Nevermind the horrible idea Fox has had of mixing the X-Men and Fantastic Four together in one universe. Now that would be awful! The Fantastic Four just wouldn't work at all in a universe where the only other super-powered beings around are Mutants.
Nope.

This year. The only reason Fox got those extra 10 months from when the DD rights would've expired (January of 2012) is because Marvel gave them an extension.

They are doing that this time around. So, the rights WILL expire this year if they don't film.

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Old 03-17-2014, 09:13 AM   #29
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Nope.

This year. The only reason Fox got those extra 10 months from when the DD right would've expired (Jamuary of 2012) is because Marvel gave them an extension.

They are doing that this time around. So, the rights WILL expire this year if they don't film.
Oh, so it's seven years on the dot. Perfect! So three more months and they lose the rights? And what's the requirement for retaining the rights? Start filming even if they don't complete the film, or finishing the film? Oh please, oh please, oh please let Fox fail to meet the deadline! I wonder, is Marvel prepared for that possibility? It'd be awesome if they've got a couple Fantastic Four screenplays squirreled away on the possibility that they'll get the rights back.

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Just remembered this article. Thought I'd post:

http://www.superheromoviesnews.com/2...4-to-film.html

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They need to begin filming a new Fantastic Four movie within 7 years after the last Fantastic Four movie was released. Meaning that they have until about early Fall 2014 to start filming. Once they begin filming, there are other dates that they have to meet. They can't just take 5 years to film the movie. However, the actual time that they have to release the film after filming begins remains a guarded secret by those in the know.
Fox can change the release date. They aren't locked into March 2015. However, what they must do is to begin filming within 7 years after the last FF film was released. Announcing release dates, changing release dates, announcing directors, or anything similar will not stop the FF from reverting. The only thing that will stop the clock is for filming to begin by Fall of 2014.

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Just remembered this article. Thought I'd post:

http://www.superheromoviesnews.com/2...4-to-film.html
Very interesting and this makes sense with what we know. That would put the start date at no later than June 15, 2014, wouldn't it?

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Very interesting and this makes sense with what we know. That would put the start date at no later than June 15, 2014, wouldn't it?
Not necessarily. But, maybe.

Odds are, it's October of this year, like it was October of 2012 for Daredevil, despite the previous DD film releasing in January.

But honestly, the expiration dates for the rights isn't even the most important factor.

If they don't start filming by a certain date, they won't even have enough post production time to complete the film for its late June 2015 release date. And they're isn't any place else for the film to move next year without being in the path of another film that will no doubt blow it out of the water.

Though, they already are, considering they release just one week following Jurassic World.

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They haveyo film this year. Presumably, there are six months (October of this year, just like DD expired in October of 2012) until the rights expire.


They HAVE to begin filming by then.

And honestly, if they scrap this, it probably won't happen.
Do we know for sure that they HAVE to be filming though?

I've heard as long as the studio has a film "In Production" before the expiration date, then they're not in default with their deal. "In Production" may not necessarily constitute actual filming....

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It seems Bleeding Cool have largely retracted their scoop. They say they stand by it, but are spinning it with a line of, "It was definitely true when it was reported on Friday, but is no longer true now." Watch this space, I guess.

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It seems Bleeding Cool have largely retracted their scoop. They say they stand by it, but are spinning it with a line of, "It was definitely true when it was reported on Friday, but is no longer true now." Watch this space, I guess.
What it means is there is definite trouble in Paradise and Fox was trying to either Fire him or have a backup if Trank quit. Either way this leak is gonna blow up this whole thing IMO. At this moment they're pushing forward but theres heavy debris on the tracks and this train is about "WHRECK"!!!! See you in a month

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I think someone should take The Incredibles & change their costumes to the Fantastic Fours just because they can
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The Fantastic Four have red costumes in the comics now.
I know but The Blue will always be the best

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I know but The Blue will always be the best
That was in reference to making The Incredibles look more like the FF when it's the other way around at the moment.

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I trust Bleeding Cool, they're rarely wrong. Honestly, I can't think of a specific case in the past year at least where they were wrong. At the very least, Fox has no faith in this movie as it is.

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Check the front page of this website. The Incredibles 3D is coming. Hopefully in theaters by next year. If FOX didn't have enough reasons to abandon production, Disney/Pixar just gave them another one.
Right. Fox abandoning production because of a movie that came out 10 years ago(albeit, a truly great movie) is getting a 3D theatrical release. O_o Boi, you cwazy.


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Right. Fox abandoning production because of a movie that came out 10 years ago(albeit, a truly great movie) is getting a 3D theatrical release. O_o Boi, you cwazy.

Ok, then with that one less reason does it really matter??



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Right. Fox abandoning production because of a movie that came out 10 years ago(albeit, a truly great movie) is getting a 3D theatrical release. O_o Boi, you cwazy.
Obviously, it wouldn't be the only reason. But the rumors, the fanboy backlash and multiple dropped release dates have the Trank FFINO already on shaky ground. The fact that Disney/Pixar are holding onto the greatest FF movie to date as potential competition is a real problem for FOX. It may be the final straw in a production cycle that started way back in 2009.

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It seems Bleeding Cool have largely retracted their scoop. They say they stand by it, but are spinning it with a line of, "It was definitely true when it was reported on Friday, but is no longer true now." Watch this space, I guess.
Lots of unsubstantiated rumours being debunked lately

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Do we know for sure that they HAVE to be filming though?

I've heard as long as the studio has a film "In Production" before the expiration date, then they're not in default with their deal. "In Production" may not necessarily constitute actual filming....
Yes it does.

Cameras have to be rolling.

Not pre-production, PRODUCTION.

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Yes it does.

Cameras have to be rolling.

Not pre-production, PRODUCTION.
This thing has been in pre-production for 4.5 years.

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This thing has been in pre-production for 4.5 years.
That's just so they make it extra good. :P

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Bleeding Cool may not have it 100% correct, but I think there may be something to this. Why in the heck are they approaching other directors if this is all wrapped up? Where there is smoke there is fire.

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If the Hollywood trades or sites like Entertainment Weekly aren't talking about it, it's BS. Plain and simple.

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It seems Bleeding Cool have largely retracted their scoop. They say they stand by it, but are spinning it with a line of, "It was definitely true when it was reported on Friday, but is no longer true now." Watch this space, I guess.
That's not what they said. They said they know that Fox contacted two big names who turned down the project. They confirmed that. They are saying that is 100% true.

What they are saying is perhaps because they couldn't get one of their alternatives, they may be proceeding ahead as there's not a better alternative at the moment.

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