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Old 04-09-2014, 02:52 AM   #26
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I still have to watch Cap 2, up until now the best has been Iron Man 3

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Old 04-09-2014, 03:03 AM   #27
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Cap 2 one of the best Superhero made to date

Thor 2 was slightly above mediocre (It had so much potential and could have been so much better than it was)

IM3 was depressingly disappointing

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Old 04-09-2014, 04:09 AM   #28
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WS is definitely the best solo flick but I think that IM3 is not bad as well - it's not far behind WS in my ranking. TDW doesn't look as good as I expected, even though I enjoy it. It's probably the weakest link when compared to the rest of Phase Two so far.

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Old 04-09-2014, 04:55 AM   #29
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Phase 2 has been superior to phase 1 in every way but for me cap is the best, followed closely by iron man.

Thor wasn't bad but it didn't quite have the same gasp factor

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To be brutally honest, coming out of Cap 1, I christened him the "boring Avenger", and Avengers itself didn't do much to change that. He's basically just a dude with a shield.

Cap 2? He's now one of my favourite characters. Winter Soldier is an absolute masterpiece of a film, full of brilliant intrigue, snappy dialogue, and a superb supporting cast (seriously, Mackie's Falcon is up there with Thor in my mind as awesome characters). So that's (by quite some margin) my pick.

Second is Thor TDW, purely because Thor is my favourite Avengers franchise, and well, Jaimie Alexander as Sif adds quality points to it... Plot was a little weak, but the spectacle was great.

Last is Iron Man 3. I get what they were trying to do, loved the Mandarin fake out, but the ending stunk. Now he can get his shrapnel removed? He blew all the suits up? Boourns I say, boooourns

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Old 04-09-2014, 06:31 AM   #31
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Russos are playing chess, Shane Black and Alan Taylor played checkers. Good MCU movies but not on the level of TWS

The main thing about these movies/characters is, you can make all of them really great, you just have to find the right people to do it. I think Jon Favreau, Joss and The Russos have done the best job so far.


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Old 04-09-2014, 06:34 AM   #32
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Cap and Iron Man are even for me. Loved both of there films.

As for how Stark got the arc reactor removed? It just occurred to me that he may have perfected Extremis and used it on himself. We shall soon see.

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Old 04-09-2014, 08:44 AM   #33
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I loved IM3, but Cap wins this phase. Thor was a good effort, but lacked some weight (I didn't feel like the universe was at stake, Malekith had no dimension) and was fairly paint-by-numbers plot wise. Cap just took everything to a whole other level, and impacted the MCU immensely.

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Cap 2- Nearly perfect
IM3- Favorite iron man film
Thor 2- Didn't love it that much, still good though with an awesome twist ending

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Cap 2- Nearly perfect
IM3- Favorite iron man film
Thor 2- Didn't love it that much, still good though with an awesome twist ending
You liked the twist ending? I thought it was so dumb, it felt like such an afterthought. Would have been a much bigger reveal in Thor 3 (Thor: With a Vengeance)

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I liked the twist ending yeah. I thought it was a good cliffhanger. And I liked the fact that both brothers got what they wanted at the end of the movie. Thor gets to be on Earth with Jane. And Loki is King as he always wanted to be.

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I think I hated it because Loki redeemed himself so well, and the cliffhanger brought up so many implausibilities... Guess that's what a sequel is for :P

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Afterthought? It was the most memorable thing in the whole movie IMO.

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Yes, but it felt very tacked on at the end. When he died, there was absolutely no indication that anything else was going on or that he even had a plan. Just a bunch of disparate scenes slotted in and Odin going walkabout

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I do agree with you that it felt tacked on and didn't make a lot of sense (i.e. how could he have possibly defeated Odin?) but I wouldn't say it was an afterthought at all. It was all I was talking about after watching it, I thought the rest of the film was good but that was the only truly memorable thing for me.

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Cap, easily

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I do agree with you that it felt tacked on and didn't make a lot of sense (i.e. how could he have possibly defeated Odin?) but I wouldn't say it was an afterthought at all. It was all I was talking about after watching it, I thought the rest of the film was good but that was the only truly memorable thing for me.
Oh yeah, that's all I've talked about since release (case in point, this thread). Just wish it made more sense!!!

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Yes, but it felt very tacked on at the end. When he died, there was absolutely no indication that anything else was going on or that he even had a plan. Just a bunch of disparate scenes slotted in and Odin going walkabout
While I've got my gripes with TDW, this is not one of them. Minutes after his death they cut to a guard searching for Thor/Loki on the dark world, and there's a pretty obvious Loki-glow around him. Then later when that guard is talking to Odin it is very heavily implied that everything is not as its seems. They set it up well, and absolutely needed to show their hand and reveal the "twist" as the last scene of the movie.

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For me, Cap 2. Then comes Thor and then Iron Man 3. I must say though, i enjoyed all of them.

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There is absolutely no comparison.
Captain America: the winter soldier is a great movie. Not just in terms of a Marvel movie or a phase 2 movie, but just in general. It's really one of the top comic films ever, IMO.
IM3 and Thor TDW are enjoyable in their own respects, but don't really live up to their earlier films. They're pretty forgettable. TWS really holds up a lot better.

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There is absolutely no comparison.
Captain America: the winter soldier is a great movie. Not just in terms of a Marvel movie or a phase 2 movie, but just in general. It's really one of the top comic films ever, IMO.
IM3 and Thor TDW are enjoyable in their own respects, but don't really live up to their earlier films. They're pretty forgettable. TWS really holds up a lot better.
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Agree with batboy and Destined on TWS

I hope each new MCU film can do what TWS did and inject more thought into the stories and characters not just make them about crazy CGI FX.

IM 3 actually did that too, which was good. It just wasnt as satisfying as TWS for me.


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Old 04-09-2014, 01:08 PM   #48
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TWS was simply something I wouldn't expect from Marvel after releasing IM3 and TDW since it had completely different tone and atmosphere. It was a way of refreshment and more mature approach to the character and plot as well.

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Captain America had the best, followed by Thor & Tony Stark

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I'm surprised even one person picked Thor 2. Why though?

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