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Old 06-23-2014, 04:35 PM   #101
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I don't see a problem with them being able to make the ages late teens for all of them. There is no definitive year for any of the movies in the original trilogy, so in that sense the relation from them to the flashback where Erik and Charles meet Jean doesn't matter when there is no exact date for the original trilogy.

The appearance of anyone in Xavier's first use of Cerebro in First Class can be written off. Within the movie, there are no names ever given to those random people he sees. The timeline should only focus on what is said within the movie and nothing else.

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Old 06-24-2014, 08:32 AM   #102
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Here is what we know based on information provided only in the movies:

1962 X-Men: First Class

- Cuban Missle Crisis took place in 1962

1973 X-Men: Days of Future Past

- Paris Peace Accords take place in January of 1973 and the year is stated directly in the movie.

1973 to 1979 X-Men Origins: Wolverine

- The Three Mile Island incident took place in 1979, and the events at the beginning of the movie takes place 6 years prior to the end. In Days of Future Past, Wolverine wakes up in a situation where he has angered whomever he is working for. So in the original timeline it is assumed he is out of a job and heads back into the military in 1973 and likely meets up with Stryker later in the year.

2023 X-Men: Days of Future Past

- Stated to have happened 50 years after 1973

X1 to X2 a few weeks or months have passed, possibly the same year.
X2 to x3 There is a new president, which means it would have to correspond with election timelines.

X3 flashback is 20 years ago

The post-credits scene in The Wolverine takes place 2 years after events in the movie.


One problem with X-Men Origins: Wolverine being set in 1973 is that Wolverine wasn't in Vietnam during that year as we are shown in DOFP. He was in New York sexing with his mob boss's daughter and he hasn't met William Stryker yet which means that the Vietnam war scene in Origins took place in 1975. Judging the way Wolverine is interacting with the other Team X members, a couple years had passed since he met Stryker in prison which puts the movie in 1979. With the 6 year time jump, the rest of the film is set in 1985.



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The issue with the World Trade Center is whether or not recent events around the time of the movie were impacted by mutants coming to more prominence. But to go with your assumption, let's say that X-Men takes place around 2000.

That puts X2 later in 2000 or possible early 2001, and then X3 would be in 2004 because of the newly elected president going based on the idea that it wasn't a special election or the previous president didn't resign or get impeached.

At that point, getting from X3 to The Wolverine to the future portion of DOFP is just a matter of connecting the dots. The ten year thing sounds good between The Wolverine post-credit scene and DOFP, so we'll go with 2013 in the post-credit scene. That would put a gap between X3 and The Wolverine at 6 to 7 years.

The X3 flashback to the 80s is the thing that screws over the entire timeline. But again, this is assuming that the flashback is meant to be before events in X3 and not prior to the entire trilogy. It is possible that the flashback was meant to be prior to events in the entire trilogy, which if X-Men takes place in 2000, then Magneto and Xavier would meet Jean Grey in 1980.

My assumption is the oldest Jean can be in the flashback is 14. So going based on that assumption, she could be 17 in 1983.
I'll go with X2 being set in early 2001 and I may have goofed on the time gap between X2 and X3. There were 2 different presidents in both films and the presidential run last for 4 years. Plus, someone mentioned that the Chris Clairemont novelization for X3 states that the "20 years ago" scene was set in 1985 and the "10 years ago" scene was in 1995 so that puts the events of X3 in 2005.

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Old 06-24-2014, 09:38 AM   #103
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I'm just going with what is actually in the movies rather than any external sources, including novelizations and even movie commentary tracks. Because if you choose to follow external sources, then the things just get too far out of control for continuity which would include two Bolivar Trasks and Emma Frosts.

If you just go with what is presented solely within the movies, issues like those aren't really an issue.

The flashback can be reasonably retconned to 1980, allowing for a Jean in her late teens in Apocalypse.

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Old 07-09-2014, 10:06 AM   #104
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New timeline isnt a retcon but modification.

Original timeline:
-Fisrt Class
-Pre-trilogy : Magneto managed to escape from prison, Mystique managed to escape from experiments, Xavier lived sadly but will overcome and become a great professor. all events lead to X1
-X-men Origins
-X1, X2, X3
-Post-trilogy : Sentinels are launched. 2008 : Warren gets killed, 2015: Beast gets killed
-Wolverine
-DOFP, chaotic 2023

New timeline :
-First Class(unchanged)
-DOFP 1973
-Apocalypse and future next x-men movies
-DOFP altered 2023

This doesnt modify date of birth of characters


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I don't see how X1 can be set in 2005 when the World Trade Center was featured in the movie. Plus, it will be 1 year before the 9/11 attacks destroyed those twin towers which puts the movie's timeline around the year 2000 and the gap between X1 and X2 is very short so X2 is set 3-4 months later. Both movies mentioned that Wolverine has had amnesia for 15 years while the flashback scene in X3 says it was 20 years ago which means that the entire X-men trilogy took place in 2000.
Yes I did think original trilogy could set in 2000/2001 instead of 2005/2006 but dont forget Colossus was born in 1986. In X3 he doesnt look to be 14yo;

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Old 07-09-2014, 10:10 AM   #105
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I hope that DOFP's happy ending turns out to be a hallucination of the drowning Logan. That way there is no pressure to have things end that way.

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Old 07-09-2014, 10:16 AM   #106
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I hope that DOFP's happy ending turns out to be a hallucination of the drowning Logan. That way there is no pressure to have things end that way.
They wouldn't get away with saying its a hallucination now, so probably not

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Old 07-09-2014, 10:39 AM   #107
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Drowning Logan would also not know who any of those people are

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Old 07-09-2014, 01:16 PM   #108
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I want future logan's consciousness to be stuck in the past

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Old 07-13-2014, 02:46 PM   #109
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New timeline isnt a retcon but modification.

Original timeline:
-Fisrt Class
-Pre-trilogy : Magneto managed to escape from prison, Mystique managed to escape from experiments, Xavier lived sadly but will overcome and become a great professor. all events lead to X1
-X-men Origins
-X1, X2, X3
-Post-trilogy : Sentinels are launched. 2008 : Warren gets killed, 2015: Beast gets killed
-Wolverine
-DOFP, chaotic 2023

New timeline :
-First Class(unchanged)
-DOFP 1973
-Apocalypse and future next x-men movies
-DOFP altered 2023

This doesnt modify date of birth of characters
The opening scenes of X-men Origins and The Wolverine should be included in the new timeline. Both took place before 1973, although the Vietnam war scene in Origins is a tricky one.




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Yes I did think original trilogy could set in 2000/2001 instead of 2005/2006 but dont forget Colossus was born in 1986. In X3 he doesnt look to be 14yo;
Well, most 14 year olds don't actually look their age.

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Old 07-13-2014, 07:15 PM   #110
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when was it said in any of the movies what year Colossus was born?

an as someone whose often told I don't look my age, I never understood that saying, isn't it all subjective, just cause someone else looks different at their age then you do... who's to say what your suppose to look like at a certain age, everyone matures an ages at their own rate

maybe I don't look young for my age, maybe everyone else looks old for their age lol


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Old 07-13-2014, 07:30 PM   #111
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It never was said. All we have is baby Colossus in a photo in the promotion of DoFP.

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Old 07-13-2014, 07:42 PM   #112
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should we count virtual companion an promo pics, as continuous?

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I'm just going with what is actually in the movies rather than any external sources, including novelizations and even movie commentary tracks. Because if you choose to follow external sources, then the things just get too far out of control for continuity which would include two Bolivar Trasks and Emma Frosts.

If you just go with what is presented solely within the movies, issues like those aren't really an issue.

The flashback can be reasonably retconned to 1980, allowing for a Jean in her late teens in Apocalypse.
Agreed

I also go by names given. if they weren't called by name or listed by name in the credits then they weren't officially those characters

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Old 07-13-2014, 11:28 PM   #114
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should we count virtual companion an promo pics, as continuous?
Not really but if you want to, sure. Though I'm pretty sure X-Men: The Official Game and the novelizations are not canon.

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when was it said in any of the movies what year Colossus born?
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Old 07-21-2014, 05:29 PM   #116
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It appears FOX and Singer is trying to reboot al Trek, but that doesn't work cause the timeline or time period to be more exact just seems way off. I mean Sentinals in the 70's? The Tech was available back then for them to build Sentinals with mutant detection capabilities??

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Yes, it was.

Reminder, the Sentinels of the comics were invented in the 60's; this is fantasy sci-fi, they can easily make a new tech that can detect those with mutant powers.

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