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Old 06-02-2014, 02:03 PM   #251
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They could mix things a bit, use a little from Hal's story and give it to Kyle
Didn't they do that in Kyle's episode in Superman the animated series?

And that wasn't the only time they merged two characters in a adaption, for the Flash TV show they made Barry half Barry and half Wally
Tim Drake's story in the new Batman Adventures has Jason Todd's story in the mix, and Robin's outfit in Batman The Animated Series is Tim's costume
yeah, i don't think they need to go by the book. they could just as easily use hal storylines for kyle.

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yeah, i don't think they need to go by the book. they could just as easily use hal storylines for kyle.
Eh, what's the point?

The DCAU just took certain characters and gave them a different civilian name and I don't think the civilian name is the problem people have with Green Lantern. If you're going to do Kyle, do Kyle. Don't be "Hey, Hal's actually more appealing to us creatively, but we want to look like we're doing something different so we took this less interesting guys name".

Kyle's got his own backlog of stories given he's been headlining several titles over the past twenty years.

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Hal isn't creatively appealing, but I think ЯɘvlveR's point is that, because Hal was unfortunately the Lantern who was around when a lot of the foundations of the mythos were laid down, he has left behind some fundamental elements of the over-arching story. In order to integrate Kyle more fully with that over-arching story, narrative elements could be taken from Hal and given to Kyle.

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Old 06-02-2014, 02:36 PM   #254
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If the only thing you're taking from Hal is "no other human Green Lanterns exist" that's fine and expected.

If you're taking Abin Sur, Kilowog, Tomar-Re, Sinestro, War of Light etc. Just do Hal.

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I don't see how Kilowog belongs to Hal Jordan.

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Just use Kyle and hint that there are other GL's from earth. He can get his ring directly from a Guardian instead of the Abin Sur route in the animated series. We already saw it with Hal in the movie. Kyle has his own stories that could translate well onto film.

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If the only thing you're taking from Hal is "no other human Green Lanterns exist" that's fine and expected.

If you're taking Abin Sur, Kilowog, Tomar-Re, Sinestro, War of Light etc. Just do Hal.
Exactly. Emphasis on Sinestro.

Basically if you want to do Sinestro and have the story line be as emotionally resonant as possible, you have to use Hal.

I really don't think people understand this. The other GL's don't have nearly as strong a connection with the other characters in the GL universe.

The Hal/Sinestro relationship is crucial to Green Lantern. Advocates of John Stewart, Kyle generally agree that it'd be acceptable to merge those characters with Hal. I think that's really unnecessary. If you have to merge a character with another character to work, then i don't think they should use that character in the first place.

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It's worth it if the replacement character is better than the other one.

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It's worth it if the replacement character is better than the other one.
So, not worth it then?

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I don't see how Kilowog belongs to Hal Jordan.
He's a supporting character of Hal Jordan's.

He's evolved recently, but so did Robin.

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Lol. Pretty much, yeah.

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Eh, what's the point?

The DCAU just took certain characters and gave them a different civilian name and I don't think the civilian name is the problem people have with Green Lantern. If you're going to do Kyle, do Kyle. Don't be "Hey, Hal's actually more appealing to us creatively, but we want to look like we're doing something different so we took this less interesting guys name".

Kyle's got his own backlog of stories given he's been headlining several titles over the past twenty years.
it just goes with what we've heard about who they'd like to cast as the heroes. we've heard rumors about hispanic flash (we've heard that they want to appear more diverse than say, the avengers) which could totally be bull, but I'd rather they go with kyle if they're going to do that.

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Hal isn't creatively appealing, but I think ЯɘvlveR's point is that, because Hal was unfortunately the Lantern who was around when a lot of the foundations of the mythos were laid down, he has left behind some fundamental elements of the over-arching story. In order to integrate Kyle more fully with that over-arching story, narrative elements could be taken from Hal and given to Kyle.
that's too smart to be my point.

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Old 06-02-2014, 03:37 PM   #265
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if i had to name in what order what lanterns should be used it would be

1.abin sur
2.kyle rayner
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i think having abin sur, mm makes them more interesting, cool looking than just bunch of human in spandex.

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it just goes with what we've heard about who they'd like to cast as the heroes. we've heard rumors about hispanic flash (we've heard that they want to appear more diverse than say, the avengers) which could totally be bull, but I'd rather they go with kyle if they're going to do that.
Oh I getcha then. If they want as broad diversity as possible I definitely think Simon Baz or Jessica Cruz is the way to go.

They're minority characters (plus another woman) and also relatively clean slates as characters, they could do whatever.

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if i had to name in what order what lanterns should be used it would be

1.abin sur
2.kyle rayner
3.hal

i think having abin sur, mm makes them more interesting, cool looking than just bunch of human in spandex.
Need the Martian Manhunter for that. That's what he's for. Too bad Goyer hates him.

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Nah, just mention Hal as backstory.
That could work.
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This works too. Or they could combine Hal and Kyle like STAS did.

Basically for any GL other than Hal to work as the lead, you either have to mention Hal, show Hal in flashbacks, establish Hal as a supporting character, or combine elements of Hal with whoever WB chooses to be the lead GL. Seems like a lot of unnecessary effort, obviously none of those problems arise when Hal is the lead. He stands on his own.
If they do hal or combine Kyle and Hal both would be great.

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I did not read enough Green Lantern comics to properly judge a lantern
I'd like to take it from the experts, what are the pros and cons of each Green Lantern from Earth? I hope to get a thorough answer

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I did not read enough Green Lantern comics to properly judge a lantern
I'd like to take it from the experts, what are the pros and cons of each Green Lantern from Earth? I hope to get a thorough answer
Note, I'm listing them in terms of popularity


Hal Jordan
Pro: The first human Green Lantern Corps member. Considered "the greatest Green Lantern" after Sinestro fell from grace (because of Hal). Natural leader, will disobey bad orders. Strong (but complicated) relationships and banter with other Leaguers like Barry Allen, Oliver Queen, and Bruce Wayne.
Con: [My opinion] He's the embodiment of every cliched action-hero trope. He's like a Han Solo, Indiana Jones, Maverick from Top Gun, and John McClane combination.

John Stewart
Pro: Has the best, most intricate, constructs because he's an architect. Former Marine (yes, I know there is "no such thing as a former Marine, just Marine"). Very honorable; the most "Superman-like" of the human GLs in terms of personality. Has interesting relationships with many different strong female characters, most notably Hawkgirl in the JL/U series. I believe he's actually the most relatable human GL because he's quite normal - the type of guy you probably know in real life.
Con: Doesn't have a good history of strong story arcs in comics so he's considered boring by many people.

Kyle Raynor
Pro: Has the most diverse type of constructs because he's an artist. Probably the most likeable of the human GLs. If John is like the type of guy who you'd want to befriend as an adult, Kyle is like your cool high school buddy or younger brother. Pretty normal dude that doesn't fit into a box like the others. Becomes ION.
Con: [My opinion] Not a natural leader like Hal or John.

Guy Gardner
Pro: The guy who's going to do the dirty work, willing to get down in the mud to defeat the Corps enemies. An in-your-face attitude, doesn't take **** from anyone.
Con: Widely disliked because of that brash attitude. He's basically an ass/douche/jerk and acts like a 12 year old a lot of the time.

Alan Scott
Pro: The actual first Green Lantern. If you like diversity (as I do) in the New 52 he's gay.
Con: Has nothing to do with the GL Corps, his powers come from Earth magic. I know the least about him personality wise.

I'm sure many other, more knowledgeable people than I, have more detailed representations of each character. These are just how I interpret them after reading most of Geoff John's 9 year GL run + watching JL/U + reading some of Grant Morrison's JLA run + watching GL: TAS + various other, lesser, arcs over the past ~15 years. But I wouldn't call myself an expert on GL by any means; at least not like I consider myself an expert/knowledgeable on Supes.

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Old 06-02-2014, 08:35 PM   #271
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Go with the greatest Green Lantern of them all despite the crappy film he had previously.

Also he was originally one of the founding members of the Justice League.

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Hal, because I still can't get over what they did to him during the 90s (becoming Parallax and destroying Coast City) ...and then screwed him all over again with that painful film.

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Use Hal Jordan. He has to be redeemed on film anyway.

I really love Kyle, but I found the STAS merger kinda annoying. Episode was great though.

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Use Hal Jordan. He has to be redeemed on film anyway.

I really love Kyle, but I found the STAS merger kinda annoying. Episode was great though.
Hal Jordan.

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