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Old 06-05-2014, 06:49 AM   #326
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I disagree. X2 makes it more than clear Rogue has moved on from being an angst ridden teenager who hates her powers.


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Old 06-05-2014, 07:04 AM   #327
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X2 makes it more than clear that they've moved on from Rogue being an angst ridden teenager who hates her powers.
Hm, I see where you're coming from (the fact that Rogue did fly the Blackbird to save the team in the end of X2 might imply that she's becoming ready to be a real X-Man), but I felt it was underdeveloped. Most of her time spent in X2 was her worrying about kissing her boyfriend. And when she does actually help the team out at the end, she's having a little panic attack. There hasn't been a single point in the X-Men movies where I've seen Rogue have fun with her power. She's used and benefited from her power in X1 and X2 (with Wolverine and Pyro), but she doesn't seem to be at peace with her power. At least it doesn't seem like that to me.

I can see how one could have used Rogue in a good way in X3 (her deciding to not take the cure, and showing up with the team at the end), but I think Rogue's potential has been completely and utterly wasted in every X-Movie she's been in. Why reserve my disappointment with her character for only X3? Because hating X3 is the popular thing to do?

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Old 06-05-2014, 09:27 AM   #328
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Why reserve my disappointment with her character for only X3? Because hating X3 is the popular thing to do?
I don't think this is directed at me, but because I said in my post that I was disappointed with Rogue from X3 onwards, I wanted to respond to this part of your post.

Personally, I was disappointed only because I really loved Rogue in the first two movies. She was definitely my favorite character before the films, and although she was vastly different, I really liked their interpretation. I thought there was potential for her to go further after X2, but that opportunity was unfortunately missed. Her storyline of dealing with the cure could have been really powerful in X3, but it was very short. It felt too much to me like Kitty was the stand-in young, inexperienced female character, especially when Wolverine makes a point of telling Bobby that Kitty might not come home (a line which would have had some real impact about Rogue, who Bobby loved).

And I say all of this as someone who is generally a fan of X3. There are some parts of it I think could be done better, for sure, but hell - I prefer it to First Class. And because I know this is such an unpopular opinion, I never discuss it with anybody here.

All that boils down to me saying not everyone disappointed with Rogue in X3 is disappointed just because "X3 sucks". But I'm probably part of a very tiny minority.

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Old 06-05-2014, 11:28 AM   #329
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The planned idea for Rogue in DoFP tells me that the writers still couldn't figure out how to use the character, but probably felt they had to include her anyways. That doesn't really bode well for her future inclusion in the series.

Not unless there is a creative change anyways. And since they have done a remarkably good job with the last couple of films, I don't want to see that.

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All that boils down to me saying not everyone disappointed with Rogue in X3 is disappointed just because "X3 sucks". But I'm probably part of a very tiny minority.
My opinion of Rogue's portrayal in X3 isn't really related to the problems with X3 as a whole. X3, I believe, does several characters well. Xavier, Magneto, Logan, Kitty, Iceman, Beast, Pyro, Jean, even Storm. The story is a mess and I do feel several characters are butchered, some beyond recognition (like what does Kid Omega in X3 have to do with his comic book counterpart besides the name?). In Rogue's case it is entirely what they do with the character that is the problem, just like Cyclops. The only thing that makes me somewhat more optimistic about Cyclops is that he had the excuse of being killed off early in X3 out of spite and was dead for DoFP. They have had four films to do something with Rogue and haven't outside of being a McGuffin in X1. Cyclops has really only fairly had two, and in one of those (X1) I actually thought they got him right.

So I have more faith they will get Cyclops right in the future than I do Rogue. They could always surprise me though.

As for right now, aside from needing Rogue for plot purposes in X1, I think the series as a whole would have benefited from putting Kitty in the lead female role in X1 instead of Rogue. They seem more comfortable handling her.


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Old 06-05-2014, 07:52 PM   #330
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Old 06-05-2014, 09:30 PM   #331
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Old 06-05-2014, 09:35 PM   #332
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^Somebody edit that poster and make it a Rogue spin off.

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^Somebody edit that poster and make it a Rogue spin off.
Nothing too elegant, but there you go:

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Nothing too elegant, but there you go:
Oh, wow thank you!

I never thought somebody would take me seriously.

This is beautiful! Now I want a Rogue spin-off so baaad (fan boy).

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Old 06-11-2014, 01:39 AM   #336
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Oh, wow thank you!

I never thought somebody would take me seriously.

This is beautiful! Now I want a Rogue spin-off so baaad (fan boy).
I want a Rogue reboot not a spin off of Paquin's Rogue.

DOFP made her storyline end and I'm just ready for it to die and go away forever. Bryan started off good with her but just turned messy after TLS and DOFP.

Cast a new actress in the role and hopefully writers that want to make similar to her canon characterization. I'd look forward to a new Rogue in Apocalypse.

Remember this is a new timeline that doesn't have to follow any origins of the Original Trilogy. Rogue can be any age.

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Uh no Rogue was clearly in 2023 as late 20s Anna Paquin

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I want a Rogue reboot not a spin off of Paquin's Rogue.

DOFP made her storyline end and I'm just ready for it to die and go away forever. Bryan started off good with her but just turned messy after TLS and DOFP.

Cast a new actress in the role and hopefully writers that want to make similar to her canon characterization. I'd look forward to a new Rogue in Apocalypse.

Remember this is a new timeline that doesn't have to follow any origins of the Original Trilogy. Rogue can be any age.
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Anna Paquin as Rogue just appeared in the altered future.

How could they feature a new Rogue in the 80s when the ending of the latest movie just featured the original Rogue in the future?

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Old 06-11-2014, 11:00 AM   #340
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I want a Rogue reboot not a spin off of Paquin's Rogue.

DOFP made her storyline end and I'm just ready for it to die and go away forever. Bryan started off good with her but just turned messy after TLS and DOFP.

Cast a new actress in the role and hopefully writers that want to make similar to her canon characterization. I'd look forward to a new Rogue in Apocalypse.

Remember this is a new timeline that doesn't have to follow any origins of the Original Trilogy. Rogue can be any age.
It's a new canon, yes. That doesn't really change characters ages though. So no, she would not be any age. Plus that would just be confusing.

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It makes little sense rebooting just one character. If they do, they should recast all the future characters.

Anyway, if they're going to fix Origins, Rogue shouldn't be that hard to fix.

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I want a Rogue reboot not a spin off of Paquin's Rogue.

DOFP made her storyline end and I'm just ready for it to die and go away forever. Bryan started off good with her but just turned messy after TLS and DOFP.

Cast a new actress in the role and hopefully writers that want to make similar to her canon characterization. I'd look forward to a new Rogue in Apocalypse.

Remember this is a new timeline that doesn't have to follow any origins of the Original Trilogy. Rogue can be any age.
Wanting a reboot of a Rogue of any age will make the character more messed up than what TLS had done to her.

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Wanting a reboot of a Rogue of any age will make the character more messed up than what TLS had done to her.


^^ agreed!!! If you are going reboot ONE character, you might as well do it for all of them. Like I've said before, FOX won't rush to recast Rogue especially with a big time T.V actress attached to the character. Either focus on developing Rogue with Anna, or drop the character( for the time being) for future films. Prefer the first part tho......

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I want a Rogue reboot not a spin off of Paquin's Rogue.

DOFP made her storyline end and I'm just ready for it to die and go away forever. Bryan started off good with her but just turned messy after TLS and DOFP.

Cast a new actress in the role and hopefully writers that want to make similar to her canon characterization. I'd look forward to a new Rogue in Apocalypse.

Remember this is a new timeline that doesn't have to follow any origins of the Original Trilogy. Rogue can be any age.
Well, her showing up for a split second at the end showed that she cannot be in Apocalypse, which takes place in the 80's, because she either would not be born or a mere baby/young child at the most, during that time.

Are you saying that when they use Rogue again in the proper time setting, you want a recast? I mean, if they do movie with a time leap into the 2000's then, yes, a recast, because Rogue would be a teenager or early 20's during that time.

If they wanted her in Apocalypse, they would have been better off not showing her in DOFP, because then you could play games with her age. You can't play that time traveling card again in the next movie. Lazy writing.

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^^ agreed!!! If you are going reboot ONE character, you might as well do it for all of them. Like I've said before, FOX won't rush to recast Rogue especially with a big time T.V actress attached to the character. Either focus on developing Rogue with Anna, or drop the character( for the time being) for future films. Prefer the first part tho......
I think I'm gonna go wild if Fox lets Anna Paquin comeback as Rogue again.

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Old 06-12-2014, 09:17 AM   #346
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I think FOX wasted Anna's Paquin success from True Blood, I think many True Blood fans would go to cinema to watch DoFP because of Sookie.

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Old 06-12-2014, 10:10 AM   #347
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Did anyone hear what her role was gonna be originally?

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Kitty's dies, rogue takes over and that's it


Oddly the rumour about her gaining powers or even getting an action scene ended up being a typical fan expectation which didn't come to be as usual

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I think that would have been an interesting dynamic considering the triangle with those characters. It would have been sad to see Kitty die like that and to have Rogue have to drain her powers.

Ultimately though I'm happier with what we got in the final film. Kitty's helpless look as Iceman was killed said it all, it was heartbreaking.

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so Rogue didnt have an actual action scene?
wow, man, these people dont have a f***clue about what to do with her, lol.
Time to leave her out of this franchise, Id say. too many tries, and no results. lets move on to other characters

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It's not a surprise. Anna didn't have any time to prepare an action scene. She went from TB set to DOFP and filmed just 5 days. And you also have the trailer where she looked injured, she was being carried by Iceman.

I said it a million times and nobody listened to me.

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